How are so many people dying (of suicide)

[clawsofperdition]

I hear about influencers (generally) or people in my country ctb and i really doubt they even know of sanctioned suicide. generally speaking, whenever people talk about the popular ways to die here, all they're met w is how they won't actually die from it. how is it that we are so preoccupied with dying and other people that do it without any help from online forums etc manage to die so easily? I've been scared to try any traditional methods since i don't want to fail and lose a year of my life in a hospital again but i doubt these people (at least most of them) used SN or anything of the sort. I'm just so tired. I really want to die and i feel like there's no way for me to. I'm desperate and it sucks seeing others succeeding when i've been researching and putting my all into this (obviously their deaths are sad and i don't condone it but damn)
reply: i don't get partial hanging?? I've read about it sm but all the comments make it seem so unviable.There are no tall buildings in my city or area. I can't get a gun. I can't find how to get SN. i wish there was an easy way to hang myself. What i really wish for is either a gun or N. I had a shot with N a few years ago and i'm still alive. I'm so desperate but i'm not willing to make any mistakes. I'm scared of pain but when i'm in the right mood i think i could stab myself sometimes (which wouldn't work anyways)

 

[Ash]

According to the World Health Organisation, 700,000 died by suicide in 2023. The world's population is what? 7-8 billion? There's a lot more people wanting to kill themselves than who actually manage it for whatever reason.

I don't say this to make you feel worse but to put it in context. You're not a failure. You're up against tough odds. You need to do your research (see the megathread below), plan thoroughly and accept that you need to be 100% determined.

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[dinosavr]

I don't think they die as easily as it seems. Some of them, maybe, but they have to be lucky. The thing is that here we reduce the risk of unsuccessful attempts, by making sure we choose the methods that are highly reliable, that eliminates many of the most popular methods (that may work well but not for everyone). Also, I think they are much more impulsive so they don't have to worry about survival instincts that much (it's probably the most common issue here). And I think their deaths might be more painful, for instance dying after jumping off the bridge that isn't high enough and drowning instead of losing consciousness while hitting the surface.
I don't keep count but I'd assume there are more goodbye threads without further updates from OPs (= successful attempts), than unsuccessful attempts.
Basing on Vizzy's thread where he wrote down sasu users' SN attempts, the success rate was 56/77, which gives us 72,7%. And we count all the attempts that were documented on the forum, including these without proper preparation (antiemetics, staying home alone, fasting, etc). While the general success rate, outside sasu, is 10-20% (it depends on many factors and there are many ways of reporting, which is way it's hard to estimate). Success rate for overdosing isn't higher than 5% which is extremely low!! And that's why in my opinion this forum makes sense and leads to less suffering and humiliation that no one deserves.

So what you see is so many suicides and you feel overwhelmed by how incredibly difficult it seems when you consider everything that can go wrong. But believe me, choosing the popular methods is pure gambling and it's not worth it. People are desperate and blinded by the movies where cutting your wrists in a hot tub always ends with death. But the reality is much different and being delusional unfortunately won't change anything. It may be frustrating, it really is, for all of us, and it sucks a lot that we are forced to solve our problems this way, I know, but maybe that's the lesser of two evils that we found this site and that we can make an informed decision and not risk ending up disabled or traumatized.

 

[Dayrain]

Basing on Vizzy's thread where he wrote down sasu users' SN attempts, the success rate was 56/77, which gives us 72,7%

Wow, this is incredible. This matches completely with Exit's RPA test findings. It's good to know there is work done to get the right data.

Also, I think they are much more impulsive

Yes, we can assume they are, that's why they probably get reported in the first place, before the news articles get rewritten in a way that let one assume it wasn't impulsive.

 

[ThisGameIsOverrated]

I think most have unsuccessful prior attempts you just don't know of

 

[UKscotty]

I think most people know it is easy to die. A large impact or cord can do the trick in seconds.

The problem is being ready to die, this can take decades.

Despite what the media says, this site does way more to help people get better and survive than to die. Anyone can find ways to die with a quick Google search.

Here we are an outlet for people to talk with like minded folks.

 

[Dayrain]

Wow, this is incredible. This matches completely with Exit's RPA test findings. It's good to know there is work done to get the right data.

Just checked again, because I was wondering and yes, Exit found a reliability of around 80%, which makes sense since they will have more data from older people.

 

[clawsofperdition]

I don't think they die as easily as it seems. Some of them, maybe, but they have to be lucky. The thing is that here we reduce the risk of unsuccessful attempts, by making sure we choose the methods that are highly reliable, that eliminates many of the most popular methods (that may work well but not for everyone). Also, I think they are much more impulsive so they don't have to worry about survival instincts that much (it's probably the most common issue here). And I think their deaths might be more painful, for instance dying after jumping off the bridge that isn't high enough and drowning instead of losing consciousness while hitting the surface.
I don't keep count but I'd assume there are more goodbye threads without further updates from OPs (= successful attempts), than unsuccessful attempts.
Basing on Vizzy's thread where he wrote down sasu users' SN attempts, the success rate was 56/77, which gives us 72,7%. And we count all the attempts that were documented on the forum, including these without proper preparation (antiemetics, staying home alone, fasting, etc). While the general success rate, outside sasu, is 10-20% (it depends on many factors and there are many ways of reporting, which is way it's hard to estimate). Success rate for overdosing isn't higher than 5% which is extremely low!! And that's why in my opinion this forum makes sense and leads to less suffering and humiliation that no one deserves.

So what you see is so many suicides and you feel overwhelmed by how incredibly difficult it seems when you consider everything that can go wrong. But believe me, choosing the popular methods is pure gambling and it's not worth it. People are desperate and blinded by the movies where cutting your wrists in a hot tub always ends with death. But the reality is much different and being delusional unfortunately won't change anything. It may be frustrating, it really is, for all of us, and it sucks a lot that we are forced to solve our problems this way, I know, but maybe that's the lesser of two evils that we found this site and that we can make an informed decision and not risk ending up disabled or traumatized.

Do you know where i can find more info on sources or the proper routine for the day of SN? I found the megathread but it didn't tell me much that i didnt alr know

 

[ThisGameIsOverrated]

I think most people know it is easy to die. A large impact or cord can do the trick in seconds.

The problem is being ready to die, this can take decades.

Despite what the media says, this site does way more to help people get better and survive than to die. Anyone can find ways to die with a quick Google search.

Here we are an outlet for people to talk with like minded folks.

True, I say I can't CTB right now but really I just don't have a method I'd like to CTB with, if I really wanted to do so right now all I have to do is look at my local train times and jump in front of one at night. Most people here and in general could CTB we just don't like the methods available to us or don't feel ready yet

 

[dinosavr]

Do you know where i can find more info on sources or the proper routine for the day of SN? I found the megathread but it didn't tell me much that i didnt alr know

These two probably were the most informative for me:
-Thread 'Stan's Guide to SN.'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/stans-guide-to-sn.27535/
-SN Successful & Unsuccessful Cases (2023)

SN Successful and Unsuccessful cases 2023 update

I have combined and added all the brief summary of all the attempts, assumed successful and unsuccessful, of SN suicide. These are all posts that the member has made to document the method, news articles, and scientific articles. If I have missed any I apologise and it would be great if you can...

sanctioned-suicide.net

These two probably were the most informative for me:
-Thread 'Stan's Guide to SN.'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/stans-guide-to-sn.27535/
-SN Successful & Unsuccessful Cases (2023)

SN Successful and Unsuccessful cases 2023 update

I have combined and added all the brief summary of all the attempts, assumed successful and unsuccessful, of SN suicide. These are all posts that the member has made to document the method, news articles, and scientific articles. If I have missed any I apologise and it would be great if you can...

sanctioned-suicide.net

oh, and this one:

SN Bible Sodium Nitrite Method (Comprehensive Guide SN Method)

Sodium Nitrite (SN) Method Introduction This document is a compilation of different sn information, members inputs, important posts related to sn, recorded suicide cases related to sn, different research on sn and so on. This document also give a full understanding of SN, what it is, how it...

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[FuneralCry]

I really envy those who managed to voluntarily end their own existence, to me they are the true and only fortunate ones. It's so cruel and hellish how it's so unnecessarily difficult for one to die on their own terms, I really wish suicide is as straightforward as just choosing to never wake. People should simply be able to have the option to easily die in a painless way whenever they wish to, only the true peace of eternal nothingness is desirable to me.

 

[clawsofperdition]

These two probably were the most informative for me:
-Thread 'Stan's Guide to SN.'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/stans-guide-to-sn.27535/
-SN Successful & Unsuccessful Cases (2023)

SN Successful and Unsuccessful cases 2023 update

I have combined and added all the brief summary of all the attempts, assumed successful and unsuccessful, of SN suicide. These are all posts that the member has made to document the method, news articles, and scientific articles. If I have missed any I apologise and it would be great if you can...

sanctioned-suicide.net

oh, and this one:

SN Bible Sodium Nitrite Method (Comprehensive Guide SN Method)

Sodium Nitrite (SN) Method Introduction This document is a compilation of different sn information, members inputs, important posts related to sn, recorded suicide cases related to sn, different research on sn and so on. This document also give a full understanding of SN, what it is, how it...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Thank you so much!
Is it ok if i pm u about the legitimacy of a source? You just seem to know sm

 

[dinosavr]

Thank you so much!
Is it ok if i pm u about the legitimacy of a source? You just seem to know sm

I'm not sure if I'll be able to help but feel free to pm me anytime!

 

[martinso67]

I think most people know it is easy to die. A large impact or cord can do the trick in seconds.

The problem is being ready to die, this can take decades.

Despite what the media says, this site does way more to help people get better and survive than to die. Anyone can find ways to die with a quick Google search.

Here we are an outlet for people to talk with like minded folks.

This site does not really help me with my physical health issues or how to CTB. (too much censorship). But it helps brighten my mood that is affected by my health. It's ridiculous that this site is seen as pro suicide xD. From that pro life point of view. Exit with its high barrier and strong limitations is more pro suicide than this site.

 

[Unknown21]

This is because you only hear about successful cases that are somewhat lucky, but you do not hear about many failed cases. There are many failed attempts for every successful one.

 

[Onelegman]

Responding to the title, because people can no longer endure so much suffering, their own and others.

 

[totheendofinfinity]

Jealous of the people who suceeded. People manage to do it in prison, little access to resources, yet it's still so hard.

 

[Throwawayacc3]

According to the World Health Organisation, 700,000 died by suicide in 2023. The world's population is what? 7-8 billion? There's a lot more people wanting to kill themselves than who actually manage it for whatever reason.

I don't say this to make you feel worse but to put it in context. You're not a failure. You're up against tough odds. You need to do your research (see the megathread below), plan thoroughly and accept that you need to be 100% determined.

Suicide Resource Compilation

All the links to threads, videos, audio, downloads, and information found here are being made available only for educational purposes, and have been shared by users; we cannot assure the accuracy of the data. This means the way you use this data is fully your responsibility, that you need to...

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When it comes to organisation like WHO and governments I'd be very careful and skeptical on their numbers. Even in the UK some stats don't even list deaths as "ending themselves". Given just driving about and seeing how many shops are shut, no one "shopping", reduced activity, hell even dog walkers look down most of the time from what I've seen. And that's just the UK. Even their population stats of 67,000,000 is wrong given the influx numbers on a yearly basis. So yeah people are beyond fed up.

Maybe stop having kids and letting them live a life of suffering. As the boomers say "you should be grateful" yeah thanks for spawning me into misery. lol.

 

[mymarbles]

i have noticed with a lot of celebrities/public figures in asia who ctb usually carbon monoxide/ charcoal method, sometimes with SWB in the bathtub. seems generally successful and it's also painless.

 

[Ash]

When it comes to organisation like WHO and governments I'd be very careful and skeptical on their numbers. Even in the UK some stats don't even list deaths as "ending themselves". Given just driving about and seeing how many shops are shut, no one "shopping", reduced activity, hell even dog walkers look down most of the time from what I've seen. And that's just the UK. Even their population stats of 67,000,000 is wrong given the influx numbers on a yearly basis. So yeah people are beyond fed up.

Maybe stop having kids and letting them live a life of suffering. As the boomers say "you should be grateful" yeah thanks for spawning me into misery. lol.

Thanks for your opinions.

 

[Unfitted]

I guess one reason might be many easily accessible methods that don't require much info searching and planning, like hanging, jumping, CO, drowning, etc., happen to be quite lethal.

We instead go down the rabbit hole and see too many possibilities for failure, so inevitably have too much to worry about.