helping someone suicidal while being suicidal yourself

[chimeraq]

hello everyone,
isn't this the most tiring and exhausting thing in the world? i have to stop and take care of someone close to me who is suicidal but i myself am looking at ways to ctb. this drains me completely.

 

[Bulletwbttrflywings]

Yes... yes it is. Especially when it takes every ounce of strength to get out of bed... it's hard. But how compassionate you are to help your friend out. Big hugs to you... have you disclosed your suicidal thoughts to your friend too?

 

[chimeraq]

Yes... yes it is. Especially when it takes every ounce of strength to get out of bed... it's hard. But how compassionate you are to help your friend out. Big hugs to you... have you disclosed your suicidal thoughts to your friend too?

exactly. taking a shower is the most difficult thing ever these days. and then you have this responsibility of stopping someone else from harming themselves. it's not a friend. it's close family.
and no, i don't want to tell them. i am afraid it will sort of push them towards suicide more. sort of make them even more hopeless that the only person who can save me is also thinking of ctb.

 

[Codieb1]

There's nothing I want more than to just ask other suicidal people near me for a pact. But no, it's "socially correct" to help them out of it, otherwise you're the one in the psych ward

 

[JoeFailure]

I actually like helping other suicidal people in my suicidal state. I feel like it gives me purpose.

 

[oopswronglife]

People like us are more capable of getting someone out of the pit if it's possible. Because we have experience and know a lot of what mainstream society thinks work does not. We are better equipped to deliver useful advice. Of course just because someone is suicidal doesn't mean they are good at helping. Some are unreasonable or too unstable...but if they are a reasoned person with the experience they have more to offer than "normies" and medical folks with nothing but book learning and bias.

But yeah...it takes it out of you even if you feel good about doing it.

 

[Tabbyql]

It's amazing what you are doing. I am also trying to help a friend in a similar situation, it's mentally exhausting and I also feel a bit hypocritical. But what keeps me going is that I wouldnt want anyone to feel how I do and ctb like I want to. Especially a friend. So its all worth it.

 

[SinisterKid]

I found myself, after 2 attempts and a visit to a psych ward, a member of a anti suicide forum. I tried desperately hard to prevent others from going down the same road I had just been down myself. I was made a moderator, but it was draining. We could not talk openly about suicide, methods, timelines, had to be very wary of triggering others, so it became one long stream of platitudes which for me just did not cut it and never really addressed the issues a lot of people were dealing with. It did take a lot out of me, emotionally, psychologically as I was dealing with my own anxiety and depression with constant suicidal ideation.

So yeah, its a hard road to be on for sure, but kudos to you for attempting to do your best for another family member.

 

[Ready124]

There's nothing I want more than to just ask other suicidal people near me for a pact. But no, it's "socially correct" to help them out of it, otherwise you're the one in the psych ward

Absolutely !

 

[bluesky1972-2019]

I think you need to have been suicidal yourself before you can hope to counsel other people who are.
Most counsellors have absolutely no idea what real pain in life is. Lots may have been to university and had privileged backgrounds. Who are they to counsel when they have not experienced the pain first hand?
That's my opinion anyway.
You seem the ideal person for the job. Well done.

 

[Quinlor]

It's wierd because I am a suicidal a for a long time and I already resolved many existencial doubts about ctb. So when I try to help a suicidal, especially a new one, they have the same doubts then me in the past. this is very difficult and emotionally sad remember all this moments.

 

[Prideathwish]

hello everyone,
isn't this the most tiring and exhausting thing in the world? i have to stop and take care of someone close to me who is suicidal but i myself am looking at ways to ctb. this drains me completely.

Y'all may make good CTB partners

 

[chimeraq]

Y'all may make good CTB partners

no man. i don't want that person to ctb. i will be devastated if that happens. i must save them at all costs.

 

[color_me_gone]

i don't want that person to ctb

Isn't it funny how we want to ctb, but don't want others to, especially if they are close?
I'm not being critical here, because I am the same way.
I will say though, that nobody is more fit to help another as we are, as we also stand in those shoes.

 

[HGL91]

I actually like helping other suicidal people in my suicidal state. I feel like it gives me purpose.

Right? I can't connect or understand many people, but suicidal people, I understand.

 

[LifeOver]

I'm just curious: What if one day you found your suicidal family member in the middle of an attempt? Are you going to stop him/her so the result is to live life as a vegetable or will you leave him/her alone since you understand his/her feelings?

 

[color_me_gone]

What if one day

If they would become a vegetable, I would not interrupt - that would be cruel.
If the method or time period would be such that they would be ok, then yes, I would interrupt.
The tough part is deciding which state to assume would happen.
If there was any question, I would not interrupt, because nobody wants to become a vegetable.

 

[freemefrompain]

I actually like helping other suicidal people in my suicidal state. I feel like it gives me purpose.

Me too, I can't uplift myself very well but I sure try my best to bring positivity to others

 

[Marz]

I've had to do such thing before with a couple of people. The last person I had to talk out of it was a friend that was a minor (which is why I was so adamant in her not attempting shit- I was her age when I first attempted and I just cannot tolerate the thought of kids succeeding at ctb, I'm sorry) but if the person is close to me and they're adults and their life situation is hard I really don't put pressure on them either way. I have found being accepting helps more than not. If it's me killing myself ideally I'd want those that care about me accepting my decision, thus I reciprocate this feeling. The only friend I have left has a shitty ass life situation and if she were to take her life I'd be devastated but I would not blame her. And she wouldn't for me vice versa. In fact, before my last attempt she said her farewell to me. We're internet friends anyway so she wouldn't be able to intervine. But that gave me a sense of calmness.