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aloneintheworld

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Dec 12, 2019
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I have some medicines and I am wondering which ones would be a lethal combination. Unfortunately this last week some of my meds were stolen so I don't have as many stockpiled as I did before
I am also doing rough estimations as I haven't counted each specific pill so I am estimating low rather than high however most of these are active prescriptions so I have access to one more months supply if I continue to stockpile
I have about 30mg of lorazepam
1000mg nortriptyline (only am perscribed 20mg a day so this will take a long while to stockpile more)
5000mg tramadol
500mg tizazidine
500 mg hydroxizine
1000mg reglan
I also have some singular, xyzal, topirimate (probably 1000mg), hypo thyroid medication, and a low amount of naltrexone. I also have lot of inhalers albuteral and dulera
Do I have enough for a lethal cocktail if so what combination do you recommend? I also weigh about 200lbs currently and I have health issues along the lines of dysautonomia I don't know if this makes me more sensitive to the drugs I also have gastroparesis so I don't know if that's a factor too. I am also in a place where I could not be found for days.
 
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None of this is usable.

You should also avoid taking pills for suicidal purposes if you have a (partial?) gastroparesis. Tramadol is also not conducive, not even with reglan.
 
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aloneintheworld

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Dec 12, 2019
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None of this is usable.

You should also avoid taking pills for suicidal purposes if you have a (partial?) gastroparesis. Tramadol is also not conducive, not even with reglan.
Why are a lot of these medicines useless? Is it that I don't have enough of them?
 
Girobatol

Girobatol

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Sep 9, 2019
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Only the nortriptyline is lethal in overdose, but I figure you need more than a gram.
 
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Secrets1

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Nov 18, 2019
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No, they are the wrong chemicals. I don't know enough about pharmacology and your situation other than to not try an O.D. using those medications. Some are simply not powerful enough for their class of drug (lorazepam + tramadol to combine opiates with benzos... if you had a bunch of Xanax and roxicet which are much more potent that would be different).
 
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TiredAndReadyToGo

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Nov 20, 2019
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If you're insistant on an OD, there is an OTC option but most people on here don't seem to like it due to the totally different effects it has at medium doses. Benadryl (diphenhydramine), is an anti-histamine typically used for allergies and sleep. At high doses it can be quite lethal but it is a certain mg per kg that you'd need as well as would need benzo's, long lasting preferred and it says 300mg valium in the cocktail but you can use equivalents from the chart in the resources. The benzo's are to keep you asleep while everything happens but you would still need to be alone during the process incase they don't kick in fast enough and you do have sone delirum before passing out, as well as in case you experience seizures which can happen at those truly high doses. You would also need anti-emetics but if I'm not mistake Reglan is meto so you have more than enough to do either the stat or 48 hour regiment.

If you're deadset on ODing take your time and be methodical. I would recommend using the search bar in the top corner for generalized research but also even just a quick google search is vastly helpful


I personally will be using this method with a bunch of xanax (30mg-50mg) in hopes that it will be longer and faster acting at that dose.

I would never encourage anyone to harm/kill themselves, your choices are yours and yours alone. This definitely isn't something to rush into and requires research to prevent unintentional damage or harm.
 
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TiredAndReadyToGo:

Antiemetic drugs, which sort of and how much?
Sorry German native speaking, we have different product-names here.
You will make a "how2", if I remember you correctly?
 
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TiredAndReadyToGo

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Nov 20, 2019
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TiredAndReadyToGo:

Antiemetic drugs, which sort of and how much?
Sorry German native speaking, we have different product-names here.
You will make a "how2", if I remember you correctly?
Currently in the process of writing it all up, trying to get as much info as I can out before I go so that there is another method available, especially fairly widely accessible. The Metoclopramide (couldn't find a german brand name) is what I will be using but I have heard that Domperidone will work similarly but can not vouch for it. The amount needed is the same as for SN, or I can't find anything saying/suggesting otherwise. I'll post more about in later on but meto is just the same as SN, either the stat or 48 hour regiment. If you also have any questions feel free to PM or to reply here
 
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aloneintheworld

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Dec 12, 2019
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If you're insistant on an OD, there is an OTC option but most people on here don't seem to like it due to the totally different effects it has at medium doses. Benadryl (diphenhydramine), is an anti-histamine typically used for allergies and sleep. At high doses it can be quite lethal but it is a certain mg per kg that you'd need as well as would need benzo's, long lasting preferred and it says 300mg valium in the cocktail but you can use equivalents from the chart in the resources. The benzo's are to keep you asleep while everything happens but you would still need to be alone during the process incase they don't kick in fast enough and you do have sone delirum before passing out, as well as in case you experience seizures which can happen at those truly high doses. You would also need anti-emetics but if I'm not mistake Reglan is meto so you have more than enough to do either the stat or 48 hour regiment.

If you're deadset on ODing take your time and be methodical. I would recommend using the search bar in the top corner for generalized research but also even just a quick google search is vastly helpful


I personally will be using this method with a bunch of xanax (30mg-50mg) in hopes that it will be longer and faster acting at that dose.

I would never encourage anyone to harm/kill themselves, your choices are yours and yours alone. This definitely isn't something to rush into and requires research to prevent unintentional damage or harm.
Thank you for your helpful info. Do you think a lot of lorazepam would be sufficient in being the benzo or do I need something stronger?
 
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Secrets1

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Nov 18, 2019
355
Thank you for your helpful info. Do you think a lot of lorazepam would be sufficient in being the benzo or do I need something stronger?

lorazepam has a half life of 20 hours where as Valium is 100. As far as benzos go it doesn't get much weaker than lorazepam. There are plenty of better choices and if you have a lorazepam script switching to one of them should be fairly easy.
 
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TiredAndReadyToGo

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Nov 20, 2019
187
Thank you for your helpful info. Do you think a lot of lorazepam would be sufficient in being the benzo or do I need something stronger?
I'd recommend looking at the equivalent chart in the resource section because it will tell you how much you'd need of each, you can check what 300mg of valium is as lorazepam. I am using Xanax which while it only has a half life of 5 hours, the dose I am taking I am hoping/should just keep me out the entire time. If you can stock pile or if you have enough lorazepam you could take Secrets1 advice and try to switch scripts and use both. The cocktail says adding 300mg of another benzo would just assist with hastening death.

I am in no means telling/encouraging you to harm yourself, just pointing out information that is already available with a little digging. Having more benzo's at least with diphen is a good thing, just to keep you out while the unpleasant side effects happen. If you have any more questions feel free to PM me
 
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Secrets1

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Nov 18, 2019
355
Tired+ready2go, good point half life is not all that matters here. Relatively speaking xanax is like a grenade on your CNS though whereas lorazepam a little firecracker
 
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TiredAndReadyToGo

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Nov 20, 2019
187
Tired+ready2go, good point half life is not all that matters here. Relatively speaking xanax is like a grenade on your CNS though whereas lorazepam a little firecracker
I didn't know that about Lorazepam, I am new to benzo's as a whole so my experience tends to be only with xanax for use and a bit of knowledge on valium. I'm assuming lorazepam would still be viable provided you paired it with a more powerful benzo as well. There are charts out there that list the effects of each benzo, like the propertie compared on a circular graph with 5 or 6 different effects they bring on (easing of physical and mental anxiety, sedative effects, muscle relaxant effects, and anticonvulsion properties)



I would definitely and whole heartly recommend for anyone looking at the diphen cocktail that you not only research diphen but also the benzo you're using to avoid any unpleasant unexpected outcomes. It should be something you're prepared to face without the benzo's before you decide on it, benzo's do help but there are risks with diphen you can't account for if you don't research what it will do to you.

Thank you for your input here as well Secrets! I had no idea the vast difference of Xan vs Lorazepam, if I missed anything/am misinformed on something regarding benzo's please feel more than free to correct me or provide any info you have (much rather say I was wrong and learn something helpful rather than just stay stuck in my past thinking lol)
 

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