Tamara Tami
Student
- Sep 15, 2021
- 106
im doing a deep reserach about this method in different forums, on internet sites, studies, but i found contrasting information, some people and sites affirmate is painful and other people, sites and studies affirmate its not easy, it requires lots of determination and discipline and mind/body control, is not very painful, but not exactly painful, not easy doesnt mean painful, obviosly this method is not for people who never have fasting or addicted to food, but could be for people who have fasting for large periods of time and not food addicts
some statements i found on during my reserach from different sites:
-After a few days without food, chemicals known as ketones build up in the blood. These chemicals cause a mild euphoria that serves as a natural anesthetic.
-The weakening brain releases a surge of feel-good hormones called endorphins.
-Throughout the process, the body strives to suppress the normal feelings of pain associated with deprivation.
That pain of hunger is only felt by those who subsist on small amounts of food and water — victims of famine, for instance, or concentration-camp inmates. They become ravenous as their bodies crave more fuel, said Sullivan, a senior fellow at Duke's Center for the Study of Aging.
"If you pull too much protein into the heart, it becomes unstable," said Sullivan, a senior fellow at the Duke Center for the Study of Aging. That can lead to an irregular heartbeat, which can cause the patient to die of cardiac arrest. Or, if the chest wall muscles weaken, the patient may end up with pneumonia,
The process of dying was painless but arduous: it took a long time and required strong and single-minded determination. She wrote: "The process is much more difficult than you think. It is not an easy alternative."
Dr. Robert Sullivan of Duke University Medical Center observed their gradual decline, providing one of the most detailed clinical accounts of starvation and dehydration.
"What my patients have told me for the last 25 years is that when they stop eating and drinking, there's nothing unpleasant about it; in fact, it can be quite blissful and euphoric," said Perry G. Fine, MD, Vice President . of medical affairs at the National Hospice and Palliative Care Organization in Arlington, Va. "It's a very smooth, classy, elegant way to do it."
"It's a very gentle way that nature has provided for animals to leave this life," said Dr. Ira Byock, director of palliative medicine at Dartmouth Hitchcock Medical Center in New Hampshire.
In a 2003 study published in the New England Journal of Medicine, 102 hospice nurses who cared for terminally ill patients who refused to eat and drink described their patients' final days as peaceful, with less pain and suffering than those who had chosen to die by medical decision. assisted suicide.
According to the medical literature, as well as Schwarz's experience, most terminally ill patients die within 10 days of initiating the fast. But they go into a coma much sooner, often within the first three days. Hunger usually goes away quickly, but thirst sometimes causes severe pain. Oral care and medications can help.
cardiac arrest is not the same as heart attack
these are some studies i found, they statement that is not exactly painful
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17011713/
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
i know that fasting is not the same as starving and dehydratation, but its some info i found
HELP PLEASE 7 questions
1 share some clinical studies about this topic
2 share some serious sites where i can reserach about this topic
3 starvation and stop drinking water(dehydratation) cause pain in some parts of the body?
4 starvation and stop drinking water(dehydratation) can make you fall into a coma?
5 starvation and stop drinking water(dehydratation) cause cardiac arrest
6 who have fasting for at least 2 weeks, whats your experience?
7 if after weeks of starvation and stop drinking water you eat a small piece of food it can cause a bad reaction and death?
note in my case im on my 30's and very sick body with mast cell activation dysorder, candida overgrown, sibo, dysautonomia, brain damage caused by prescibed medications, thats why im researching this method
i never said i will use this method, im researching about it, im looking for the less painful methods,im not sure if i can use exit bag, i cant take N cause digestive system issues,
with all respect please just comment if you know about the questions im asking cause you have done deep research or you have done fasting, starvation and stop drink water for at least 2 weeks, because I do not want that comments end up on something different than what I am asking or diverted to another topic
guys i tagged you cause i read your comments and i think you could know something about my 5 questions
@stupidldiot @coppervomit @Gemstone2000 @Soulless Angel @paulstrong @Nictalgia @blueclover_. @snowman626
hopeyour understanding, tks in advance
some statements i found on during my reserach from different sites:
-After a few days without food, chemicals known as ketones build up in the blood. These chemicals cause a mild euphoria that serves as a natural anesthetic.
-The weakening brain releases a surge of feel-good hormones called endorphins.
-Throughout the process, the body strives to suppress the normal feelings of pain associated with deprivation.
That pain of hunger is only felt by those who subsist on small amounts of food and water — victims of famine, for instance, or concentration-camp inmates. They become ravenous as their bodies crave more fuel, said Sullivan, a senior fellow at Duke's Center for the Study of Aging.
"If you pull too much protein into the heart, it becomes unstable," said Sullivan, a senior fellow at the Duke Center for the Study of Aging. That can lead to an irregular heartbeat, which can cause the patient to die of cardiac arrest. Or, if the chest wall muscles weaken, the patient may end up with pneumonia,
The process of dying was painless but arduous: it took a long time and required strong and single-minded determination. She wrote: "The process is much more difficult than you think. It is not an easy alternative."
Dr. Robert Sullivan of Duke University Medical Center observed their gradual decline, providing one of the most detailed clinical accounts of starvation and dehydration.
"What my patients have told me for the last 25 years is that when they stop eating and drinking, there's nothing unpleasant about it; in fact, it can be quite blissful and euphoric," said Perry G. Fine, MD, Vice President . of medical affairs at the National Hospice and Palliative Care Organization in Arlington, Va. "It's a very smooth, classy, elegant way to do it."
"It's a very gentle way that nature has provided for animals to leave this life," said Dr. Ira Byock, director of palliative medicine at Dartmouth Hitchcock Medical Center in New Hampshire.
In a 2003 study published in the New England Journal of Medicine, 102 hospice nurses who cared for terminally ill patients who refused to eat and drink described their patients' final days as peaceful, with less pain and suffering than those who had chosen to die by medical decision. assisted suicide.
According to the medical literature, as well as Schwarz's experience, most terminally ill patients die within 10 days of initiating the fast. But they go into a coma much sooner, often within the first three days. Hunger usually goes away quickly, but thirst sometimes causes severe pain. Oral care and medications can help.
cardiac arrest is not the same as heart attack
these are some studies i found, they statement that is not exactly painful
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17011713/
Dying Is Much More Difficult Than You’d Think: A Death By Dehydration
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
HELP PLEASE 7 questions
1 share some clinical studies about this topic
2 share some serious sites where i can reserach about this topic
3 starvation and stop drinking water(dehydratation) cause pain in some parts of the body?
4 starvation and stop drinking water(dehydratation) can make you fall into a coma?
5 starvation and stop drinking water(dehydratation) cause cardiac arrest
6 who have fasting for at least 2 weeks, whats your experience?
7 if after weeks of starvation and stop drinking water you eat a small piece of food it can cause a bad reaction and death?
note in my case im on my 30's and very sick body with mast cell activation dysorder, candida overgrown, sibo, dysautonomia, brain damage caused by prescibed medications, thats why im researching this method
i never said i will use this method, im researching about it, im looking for the less painful methods,im not sure if i can use exit bag, i cant take N cause digestive system issues,
with all respect please just comment if you know about the questions im asking cause you have done deep research or you have done fasting, starvation and stop drink water for at least 2 weeks, because I do not want that comments end up on something different than what I am asking or diverted to another topic
guys i tagged you cause i read your comments and i think you could know something about my 5 questions
@stupidldiot @coppervomit @Gemstone2000 @Soulless Angel @paulstrong @Nictalgia @blueclover_. @snowman626
hopeyour understanding, tks in advance
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