Discussion Have you bump into any prolifer

[Foreversad]

Have you talked with prolifers here ? How to repel them ? And why do they do that?

 

[Symbiote]

I know them very well, as much as they love to think they got the upper hand on things. The majority of this community need not to engage with them and just support each other here on SS. Engaging with them will only lead to accelerated mental deficiencies. No need to convince them or anything because they will never understand and refuse to open their eyes a bit. If you do engage with them, make sure it's for entertainment purposes or having super thick skin. They can be downright nasty.

 

[Foreversad]

I know them very well, as much as they love to think they got the upper hand on things. The majority of this community need not to engage with them and just support each other here on SS. Engaging with them will only lead to accelerated mental deficiencies. No need to convince them or anything because they will never understand and refuse to open their eyes a bit. If you do engage with them, make sure it's for entertainment purposes or having super thick skin. They can be downright nasty.

I had a chat with a member and im jot sure if he/she was so afraid us most of us are or a prolifer.stated that in pegasos are creepy and asking to kill people and its not easy due to survival instinct and that he /she rejected the idea of ctb .i mean yes fine but if she/he was in such condition determined to die he/she wouldnt think of pressing an iv button a horrible decision .i know people that had unnaceptable death due to severe health problems mental or physical .if one is sufering and wants to die eventually will do that with a peaceful way rather deciding to even be afraid of pressing an iv cannula for instance in pegasos.there are such worse deaths .seems strange .could be that the member is innocent and just afraid but still would he /she chose horrible life or horrible death .would that be so bad and si kick in and not press thw cannula? It seemed strange.he/she quitted ctb.so why r they here?

 

[Living sucks]

I had a chat with a member and im jot sure if he/she was so afraid us most of us are or a prolifer.stated that in pegasos are creepy and asking to kill people and its not easy due to survival instinct and that he /she rejected the idea of ctb .i mean yes fine but if she/he was in such condition determined to die he/she wouldnt think of pressing an iv button a horrible decision .i know people that had unnaceptable death due to severe health problems mental or physical .if one is sufering and wants to die eventually will do that with a peaceful way rather deciding to even be afraid of pressing an iv cannula for instance in pegasos.there are such worse deaths .seems strange .could be that the member is innocent and just afraid but still would he /she chose horrible life or horrible death .would that be so bad and si kick in and not press thw cannula? It seemed strange.he/she quitted ctb.so why r they here?

First, you messaged me about vad. I always look at a members profile and all of their posts before I respond. That way I know who I'm dealing with. I saw that you are very interested in pegasos. So I decided to tell you about another members experience with pegasos… a previous member who was approved and went there and used this service. I told you, what she told me. This is not my assessment, it's hers. And I gave you her name so you could look at her posts which might help you in getting yourself approved for pegasos as she also suffered from sjogrens and was quite young.
I think the problem is that you don't understand English very well.
But you should not be quick to label someone as prolife… I am in recovery and you should also respect someone who suffers but has chosen to try to live … just because I realized that ctb is not an option for me because my SI is too strong and I truly don't want to die, doesn't mean I'm not prochoice. I simply said that I was not capable of pushing the button on the IV, this doesn't equate to being prolife.
If your suffering is so bad that you have zero SI, and cannot wait to die, I have much sympathy for you and wish you nothing but peace, no matter if you choose to live or die.
Take care

 

[motel rooms]

I always love it when someone lists like twenty valid reasons why they're utterly desperate & certain "empaths" reply with a single sentence - "You can always change all of that" / "But you're too young to think like that"

 

[FuneralCry]

Most pro lifers would never understand. They cannot comprehend that life can get that bad that somebody would want to end their own life. The platitudes they say just invalidates our suffering.

 

[Foreversad]

First, you messaged me about vad. I always look at a members profile and all of their posts before I respond. That way I know who I'm dealing with. I saw that you are very interested in pegasos. So I decided to tell you about another members experience with pegasos… a previous member who was approved and went there and used this service. I told you, what she told me. This is not my assessment, it's hers. And I gave you her name so you could look at her posts which might help you in getting yourself approved for pegasos as she also suffered from sjogrens and was quite young.
I think the problem is that you don't understand English very well.
But you should not be quick to label someone as prolife… I am in recovery and you should also respect someone who suffers but has chosen to try to live … just because I realized that ctb is not an option for me because my SI is too strong and I truly don't want to die, doesn't mean I'm not prochoice. I simply said that I was not capable of pushing the button on the IV, this doesn't equate to being prolife.
If your suffering is so bad that you have zero SI, and cannot wait to die, I have much sympathy for you and wish you nothing but peace, no matter if you choose to live or die.
Take care

Before i read all this why you take things personally and why you believe i refer about you?

Before i read all this why you take things personally and why you believe i refer about you?

Read what you wrote and i insist .how do you know im talking about you ? Why came commenting here while i never called your name and also you suggested me recovery too in the messages .why ?
If u wont recovery go for it ,but WHY suggest to me ? And why being here if decided not to ctb .you shouldnt tell people to go to recovery section .if id like it i would go .respect others and if ur name isnt reffered anywhere back off and mind your business .also vad in pegasos is ten not fifhten thousand .we say actual numbers .and not to waste ur time dont say that is the cost to your country with the airplane tickets or anything ,we are obligated here to take and accurate numbers .the cost this has by itself is ten
No more words from me .
Take care too

 

[Superdeterminist]

Yes I've seen some here. Outside of this site, they seem to be everywhere. It's pretty scary how many there seem to be.

 

[Foreversad]

Before i read all this why you take things personally and why you believe i refer about you?

Read what you read and i insist .how do you know im talking about you ? Why came commenting here while i never called your name and also you suggested me recovery too in the messages .why ?
If u wont recovery go for it ,but WHY suggest to me ? And why being here if decided not to ctb .you shouldnt tell people to go to recovery section .if id like it i would go .respect others and if ur name isnt reffered anywhere back off and mind your business .if i wanted u to see nothing you wouldnt see believe me .also since i made the post if it was about you still even wouldnt mind .very sttange that you suggest recovery and you come here without your name being referred at all.
No more words from me and no suggestions for recoveryRespect others.
Take care too

I always love it when someone lists like twenty valid reasons why they're utterly desperate & certain "empaths" reply with a single sentence - "You can always change all of that" / "But you're too young to think like that"

Yeah .hate these unrealistic guys that believe everything in life changes

Most pro lifers would never understand. They cannot comprehend that life can get that bad that somebody would want to end their own life. The platitudes they say just invalidates our suffering.

Yeah .i never tolerate these guys i straightforward tell them my opinion like it or not

Yes I've seen some here. Outside of this site, they seem to be everywhere. It's pretty scary how many there seem to be.

And they get here too .seen some 2,3 of them and with this post others seem to be insulted without talking about them because i had the same conv 3 times so far within a week they dont know and come here complain which is strange since i wasnt referring to names.also vad in pegasos is ten not fifhten thousand .we say actual numbers . . Its already 3 ofthem i would only refer to modertors the ones that keep on bothering me

 

[motel rooms]

The platitudes they say just invalidates our suffering.

To paraphrase their beloved Jesus, "You shall know them by their platitudes." That's all they're capable of: spewing trite advice, spouting clichés & regurgitating platitudes.

 

[Foreversad]

To paraphrase their beloved Jesus, "You shall know them by their platitudes." That's all they're capable of: spewing trite advice, spouting clichés & regurgitating platitudes.

Exactly .annoying people .they even made an ex girlfriend seem as bad one for abortion

 

[Living sucks]

Before i read all this why you take things personally and why you believe i refer about you?

Read what you read and i insist .how do you know im talking about you ? Why came commenting here while i never called your name and also you suggested me recovery too in the messages .why ?
If u wont recovery go for it ,but WHY suggest to me ? And why being here if decided not to ctb .you shouldnt tell people to go to recovery section .if id like it i would go .respect others and if ur name isnt reffered anywhere back off and mind your business .
No more words from me .
Take care too

You posted your comment here minutes after my message reply and spoke of what we discussed. I'm sure you're not having an identical conversation with someone else at the same time.
And again, you're English is obviously not very good. I never suggested recovery to you… after you insinuated I was not prochoice, my reply was that there is a recovery section on this site, not just a suicide section, so a person can also be here trying to recover…. That is the true meaning of prochoice…. Being supportive of both the choice to ctb or to live. So not 100% of the people on this site are here to ctb.
I was trying to be helpful to you and answer your question and give you hope that Pegasos might accept you because I knew of a person who suffered from sjogrens like you and she was approved and went there. Again, the description I gave you of pegasos was her insight, not mine.
It appears you are taking what I have said in a private chat and twisting it here on the public forum.

 

[Foreversad]

You posted your comment here minutes after my message reply and spoke of what we discussed. I'm sure you're not having an identical conversation with someone else at the same time.
And again, you're English is obviously not very good. I never suggested recovery to you… after you insinuated I was not prochoice, my reply was that there is a recovery section on this site, not just a suicide section, so a person can also be here trying to recover…. That is the true meaning of prochoice…. Being supportive of both the choice to ctb or to live. So not 100% of the people on this site are here to ctb.
I was trying to be helpful to you and answer your question and give you hope that Pegasos might accept you because I knew of a person who suffered from sjogrens like you and she was approved and went there. Again, the description I gave you of pegasos was her insight, not mine.
It appears you are taking what I have said in a private chat and twisting it here on the public forum.

First my english is the best i can and none of yours to judge .second doubting me wont upset me .i was clear that the most times i'd see something strange id refer it ( not my fault you came here stupidly asking for an explanation since your name wasnt referred. You revealed yourself by accident .better think of it earlier .you didnt suggest recovery to me ? Twisting?
So whats that? Who is twisting what and who came here revealing themselves huh? Why should i be aware of recovery asking info about cbt and you suggest recovery and then come here for complains ? and say i twist it?
STRANGE

 

[Living sucks]

Yeah .hate these unrealistic guys that believe everything in life changes

Yeah .i never tolerate these guys i straightforward tell them my opinion like it or not

And they get here too .seen some 2,3 of them and with this post others seem to be insulted without talking about them because i had the same conv 3 times so far within a week they dont know and come here complain which is strange since i wasnt referring to names.also vad in pegasos is ten not fifhten thousand .we say actual numbers . . Its already 3 ofthem i would only refer to modertors the ones that keep on bothering me

I referred to recovery for myself. As you posted, I said, there is a recovery section here, are you aware of that? Meaning, I am in recovery! I didn't say, you should go to the recovery section. I am not insulting your English, I'm simply stating that you're not understanding what I'm saying.
For the record, pegasos is $10-12k but then you have to pay for flights and hotel, for yourself and your witness or pay pegasos for a witness and then you are paying upwards of $15k when it's all added up.
Again, you messaged me first, I simply responded trying to help you but you're blowing this up into something it's not.

 

[Foreversad]

I referred to recovery for myself. As you posted, I said, there is a recovery section here, are you aware of that? Meaning, I am in recovery! I didn't say, you should go to the recovery section. I am not insulting your English, I'm simply stating that you're not understanding what I'm saying.
For the record, pegasos is $10-12k but then you have to pay for flights and hotel, for yourself and your witness or pay pegasos for a witness and then you are paying upwards of $15k when it's all added up.
Again, you messaged me first, I simply responded trying to help you but you're blowing this up into something it's not.

And you came here commenting ....
And i reply ..
And i knew of recovery and you had to ask me if im aware ...
And yet here again contiuning ...
And i say again its strange.. in your position i would have stopped...

 

[Living sucks]

This is silly, you have taken everything I said incorrectly. I was being facetious when i asked that question… you claimed I was not prochoice, for no reason at all, in which I asked that, to remind you that I may be in recovery. I did not tell you to seek recovery.
I'm not sure how you took my comments, trying to give you helpful information about pegasos and direct you to an actual member who used them, as me being prolife?

 

[Foreversad]

This is silly, you have taken everything I said incorrectly. I was being facetious when i asked that question… you claimed I was not prochoice, for no reason at all, in which I asked that, to remind you that I may be in recovery. I did not tell you to seek recovery.
I'm not sure how you took my comments, trying to give you helpful information about pegasos and direct you to an actual member who used them, as me being prolife?

Still commenting?
I told you to not further bother me
Also in your pm's you said you dont log in unless you have a message and notification,but you were here to comment afraid i was talking about you .strange again.stop it and led the thread continue .was talking with other people here about sthg .its not nice what you do .lets stop it here

 

[Hurt]

Prolifers can't change the concept I have of life. I'm unhappy and life isn't beautiful for me. No matter the effort they do that won't change. It's hard to live everyday when you have a constant desire of dying in your mind.