hate is everywhere

[blush]

something i noticed about the world is that in any context, hatred will arise. no matter what, you're always open to be loathed and despised. the less privileged u are, the more probable it is to see the conditionality of ppl's love. once you're no longer useful to someone, once ppl can't get anything out of u, you disagree over something silly, everything evaporates.

we r desperate for connection but how much altruism actually exists in the world? should we be okay with both feeding into and surviving in a broken society where we will betray each other and leave ppl to rot in the ashes?

the unrelenting nature of human hatred is one of my biggest sources of depression. i know there are probably people out there for everyone, but it's sickening to have to perform all the time in order to be human and an "acceptable" part of society. it's unbearable.

 

[iveseenfootage]

The easiest way to create camaraderie is to have a mutual enemy with someone. Cause of this, you see people create artificial hatred just to be part of an in-group.

 

[the_calynite]

no matter what, you're always open to be loathed and despised.

well first, how else would this work? Yeah in general, there is something you can do in absolutely any situation to ruin a relationship, i don't know why that is necessarily bad. Actions have consequences.

should we be okay with both feeding into and surviving in a broken society

are you saying should we be okay with acting selfishly and acting like the others around us or are you saying should we be okay with that society existing in general?
if the second thing, there is no should one way or the other. there are facts of life, one fact is that love is conditional. it took me a long time for me to realize i need to change myself in order to be happy and to practice both the love of myself and receiving the love of others.
if the first thing, i guess? do what you want lol, i dont think it will make you happy, in my experience i am at my best when i help myself and i help others.

it's sickening to have to perform all the time in order to be human

this is actually crazy as i had a thought about this maybe 30 minutes ago. i have always been so frustrated by that fact and that i cant just do what i want, but the last few months i've been losing weight and hitting the gym, ive practiced useful skills, and blah blah blah, the point is, i am bettering myself in the eyes of society.

we live in a society, it has benefits and downsides, the sad truth is no matter how much you mourn that fact, the only person whose suffering is meaningfully increased is yours.


EDIT: im definitely too ruthless and maybe not the kindest. i want you to know you personally are worthy of love! i really believe so.

 

[aufrechtm7]

well first, how else would this work? Yeah in general, there is something you can do in absolutely any situation to ruin a relationship, i don't know why that is necessarily bad. Actions have consequences.

Action isn't required to create hate, you can be hated simply for existing in society. They didn't say anything about ruining a relationship

are you saying should we be okay with acting selfishly and acting like the others around us or are you saying should we be okay with that society existing in general?

This is also really presumptuous, they didn't imply that at all. I know you made an edit but it honestly seems like you're responding to a different comment because this post doesn't have any hate in it at all

 

[the_calynite]

Action isn't required to create hate, you can be hated simply for existing in society. They didn't say anything about ruining a relationship

This is also really presumptuous, they didn't imply that at all. I know you made an edit but it honestly seems like you're responding to a different comment because this post doesn't have any hate in it at all

What did the second quote imply then? those were my two best guesses genuinely

should we be okay with both feeding into and surviving in a broken society

I assume this could mean one of two things, is it immoral to let society continue(aka feeding into it by simply existing, regardless of how we act(aka should we let it survive)) or is it immoral to act selfishly and perpetuate the nature of society(also feeding into it by feeding those negative parts of society) i gave a response to both, i dont think he meant both so just ignore the incorrect one!

and youre right about the first part, there are things we can change to be more loved by society in general, and there are things we can not. i focused on the stuff we can change, but i talk about the things we cant change later in the reply. i also removed the really rude part, im not tryna hide that it was there, but it wasnt constructive at all. i do still think being bitter is similar to being hateful, and when i think and say these things, im generally bitter.

 

[aufrechtm7]

I assume this could mean one of two things, is it immoral to let society continue(aka feeding into it by simply existing, regardless of how we act(aka should we let it survive)) or is it immoral to act selfishly and perpetuate the nature of society(also feeding into it by feeding those negative parts of society) i gave a response to both, i dont think he meant both so just ignore the incorrect one!

It reads more as a genuine question as opposed to them trying to justify a specific world view.

I wasn't trying to be rude or imply you were hiding anything, I just thought that your reply seemed really disconnected from the original post is all.

It doesn't come off as bitterness to me but rather disillusionment, they're trying to make sense of the world because they don't have the answers.

 

[the_calynite]

It reads more as a genuine question as opposed to them trying to justify a specific world view.

I wasn't trying to be rude or imply you were hiding anything, I just thought that your reply seemed really disconnected from the original post is all.

It doesn't come off as bitterness to me but rather disillusionment, they're trying to make sense of the world because they don't have the answers.

Yeah, i might be like one of those annoying boyfriends that always tries and find a solution instead of listening and being empathetic
(talking as a guy with very little experience lol i have just heard that plenty)
I have been at a place like this before, and i don't think I'd appreciate everything I'm saying being dissected or ruled as the "wrong" world view, thanks:)

 

[Pluto]

 

[Charmander07]

something i noticed about the world is that in any context, hatred will arise. no matter what, you're always open to be loathed and despised. the less privileged u are, the more probable it is to see the conditionality of ppl's love. once you're no longer useful to someone, once ppl can't get anything out of u, you disagree over something silly, everything evaporates.

we r desperate for connection but how much altruism actually exists in the world? should we be okay with both feeding into and surviving in a broken society where we will betray each other and leave ppl to rot in the ashes?

the unrelenting nature of human hatred is one of my biggest sources of depression. i know there are probably people out there for everyone, but it's sickening to have to perform all the time in order to be human and an "acceptable" part of society. it's unbearable.

This is exactly why I despise this world so much, there's too much hate, so much lying it's absolutely horrible. I used to be a perpetrator of this and obviously I'll slip up from now, but why can't other people just love people unconditionally (to an extent). I hate how humans are made to be angry and decietful

 

[the_calynite]

This is exactly why I despise this world so much, there's too much hate, so much lying it's absolutely horrible. I used to be a perpetrator of this and obviously I'll slip up from now, but why can't other people just love people unconditionally (to an extent). I hate how humans are made to be angry and decietful

It really does suck, good people exist i think, but the bad people either outnumber us or are way louder. but hey, id rather be the few people to love to tha extent that i can than the many who are more selfish! we got this brother, starting with us

 

[Crematoryy]

My suicide will not be euthanasia to shorten unnecessary suffering; it will be pure revenge. Hatred is the very instinct for survival speaking loudest, it is the channeling of the pain I feel directed against what humiliates me; it is the natural path of consciousness when it recognizes its own imposed condition. Even suicide seems not to solve the problem, because everything continues to exist even when I am no longer here; I will simply not be aware of what happens, but the cycle of injustice remains. Death is not enough to appease my resentment. It is necessary to take back what was taken from me, to force everyone to notice what no one ever wanted to perceive.