Ladylethal

Ladylethal

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Jun 16, 2019
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From what I could find (before I came on here lol) is that trying to overdose on Lexapro usually doesn't work and it has a very high survival rate. Is this true? I have a plan but just in case it doesn't go through I am just looking for a quick plan B. (The pills that would've worked have either been locked up or swallowed lol)
 
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FionaWR

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May 27, 2019
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I definitely wouldn't recommend this. Try and get these things. This is my backup plan for if I take N. Fortunately I know how to get amitriptyline in high amounts, alongside xanax and diazepam. I'll figure out the rest before I go to doctors, or find them online.


DrugBody weight <100 kgBody weight >100 kg
Antiemetic drugs must be taken beforehand
Amitriptyline (Elatrol, Elavil, Endep, Laroxyl, Trepiline, Tryptanol, Tryptizol)7 grams8 grams
Cimetidine2 grams2.5 grams
Midazolam300 mg300 mg
Diazepam (Valium)300 mg300 mg
 
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Ladylethal

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Ah so I was right. Thanks guys I knew yall would know for sure lol.
 
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FionaWR

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Can you not get N? That's gonna be your best shot. Takes weeks to come through from your threads you seem quite desperate
 
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Rez_MbChB

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May 21, 2019
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I definitely wouldn't recommend this. Try and get these things. This is my backup plan for if I take N. Fortunately I know how to get amitriptyline in high amounts, alongside xanax and diazepam. I'll figure out the rest before I go to doctors, or find them online.


DrugBody weight <100 kgBody weight >100 kg
Antiemetic drugs must be taken beforehand
Amitriptyline (Elatrol, Elavil, Endep, Laroxyl, Trepiline, Tryptanol, Tryptizol)7 grams8 grams
Cimetidine2 grams2.5 grams
Midazolam300 mg300 mg
Diazepam (Valium)300 mg300 mg

4 drug cocktail is definately what I would be doing, except plan on taking ketamine instead of midazolam.
 
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I would avoid using anything that can easily be obtained from a doctor and pharmacy to CTB because you'll probably just end up in a hospital with brain damage. Because if they are easy to obtain, it means nobody sees these drugs as a threat.
 
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Rez_MbChB

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I would avoid using anything that can easily be obtained from a doctor and pharmacy to CTB because you'll probably just end up in a hospital with brain damage. Because if they are easy to obtain, it means nobody sees these drugs as a threat.
Unless you just go with the ol classic of paracetamol... which if you can find pain releif could be an option... although I would never suggest someone use that as theres an antidote and liver failure from what I have observed is incredibly painful.
 
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JustLosingMyself

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Haven't tried personally, but while theoretically possible the dose required is massive. As in 1000+ tablets massive.
 
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mathieu

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I overdosed on Celexa/Cipramil which is almost the same thing as Lexapro. It didn't work, obviously. I wouldn't advise it.
 
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May 31, 2019
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I would say that you can't just take an overdose of a random drug and expect it to work.

Drugs suitable for suicide has to be vetted by doctors who know what they're doing.

I'm getting closer to ordering N. N is considered to be the ultimate method for CTB.
 
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Rez_MbChB

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You'll get seritonin syndrome, wont die but will seriously fuck you up and could leave you in permanent agony
 
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May 30, 2019
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4 drug cocktail is definately what I would be doing, except plan on taking ketamine instead of midazolam.
What's your medical opinion on morphine/heroin/opioid/fentanyl OD death? I have my Sn but I think any of the above listed would be most peaceful. Thoughts?
 
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jake3d

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If you can get reasonably pure fentanyl, sure. Swallow a bunch of benzos then shoot it up and make sure the ambulance doesn't come.
 
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Rez_MbChB

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May 21, 2019
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What's your medical opinion on morphine/heroin/opioid/fentanyl OD death? I have my Sn but I think any of the above listed would be most peaceful. Thoughts?
Personally, a lot of people been saved from opiod OD (simple to save someone medically, naloxone and usually they're OK, sometimes need ICU but rarely) and in my city there hasnt been a single OD fatality purely on opiods, at least not in the couple of years ive been a doctor/medical student here.

If you want to die, definitely would need to use fentanyl (its not very common here so might be a reason for low mortality rates). Personally my Method would be to take anti emetics if you can, if not, just take the pills of SN. Then when you start to get the headaches shoot up with fentanyl. Means youll go peacefully but lethality is pretty insured as the MetHB will kill u in under an hour, and when overdosing on fentanyl theyre unlikely to treat for methb untill in hospital, and by then its too late.
Opiods are known as the "slow" euthanasia drug. Definately would mix the two, use opiods for peacful/pain and then need another drug to take care of the lethality (like SN). Thats my opinion though and someone else might know slightly more about the interactions etc.

P.S Overdoses do no seem pleasant for the people ODing, just from my experience. They seem to get paroxysmal pain which is weird but yeah I'm not to sure sorry.
 
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Likelihood of of success with opioids or heroin if taking much more than a recreational dose and not getting found and Narcan-ed like a dumbass? Imagine not seeing me in a hospital setting because I am not found or treated. Do I die?

Over here people are supposedly dropping like flies fro. opioids and fen, easy-peasy.
 
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jake3d

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^^ Pretty high. People drop out all the time because of fentanyl-laced heroin. Also i'd recommend taking a heavy dose of benzos before you shoot up. That should be a guaranteed one-way ticket.
 
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Rez_MbChB

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Likelihood of of success with opioids or heroin if taking much more than a recreational dose and not getting found and Narcan-ed like a dumbass?.
Again unless you have diamorphine (medical heroin) I would say its low. Depends on your personal situation I would allow for 48 hours time though. Maybe go for a hike and just take a massive OD. Could work, could leave you with a permanent pain syndrom though if by off chance you survive. Again though this isnt really my specialty sorry, but usually theres a lot of other reasons that come into play with OD deaths, rather than just pure OD.

A lotta people die, but way more people survive. Just my 2 cents tho, EMS would probably know more about your chances of being found/survival etc.
^^ Pretty high. People drop out all the time because of fentanyl-laced heroin. Also i'd recommend taking a heavy dose of benzos before you shoot up. That should be a guaranteed one-way ticket.
Ah yeah I dont really see much of that(fentanyl) , guess depends on your local areas response personal situation etc
 
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I am known for not leaving my home for weeks at a time and no one ever visits. I will not be found passed out in the street or a hiking trail like a dumbass. They won't find me til I stink.
 
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KnightOfEnceladus

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Unless you just go with the ol classic of paracetamol... which if you can find pain releif could be an option... although I would never suggest someone use that as theres an antidote and liver failure from what I have observed is incredibly painful.

No, no, no, no, no. Never ever attempt an OD on Tylenol. There is an antidote but it's only effective within 24-48 hours, might leave you with permanent liver damage anyway, and costs a crapton despite being a simple molecule (N-acetylcysteine) because the US is a barbarian nation when it comes to healthcare. Source: I worked inpatient pharmacy at a hospital and we'd have an attempted APAP suicide almost monthly; the compounding counter would smell like the pure Platonic essence of rotten eggs for ages after each one.

@Rez_MbChB, are you really a medical professonal of any sort? This is odd, and troublingly wrong, information to give anyone, if you are...
 
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No, no, no, no, no. Never ever attempt an OD on Tylenol. There is an antidote but it's only effective within 24-48 hours, might leave you with permanent liver damage anyway, and costs a crapton despite being a simple molecule (N-acetylcysteine) because the US is a barbarian nation when it comes to healthcare. Source: I worked inpatient pharmacy at a hospital and we'd have an attempted APAP suicide almost monthly; the compounding counter would smell like the pure Platonic essence of rotten eggs for ages after each one.

@Rez_MbChB, are you really a medical professonal of any sort? This is odd, and troublingly wrong, information to give anyone, if you are...
Yes, Hence the suggestion of painkillers. I didnt say it was pleasant or that it was the best course of action. In fact I said theres an antidote and that I wouldn't suggest it. People die from paracetamol toxicity.. What part of my information was wrong? It seems as though you ignored the entire last half of my comment. and simply repeated the fact that there is an antidote?
I also feel like mentioning that OP was considering taking an SSRI as a suicide attempt, paracetamol is far more likely to be successful, and wont render her with serotonin syndrome. But I wasn't giving it as medical advice, as stated.
 
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Yes, Hence the suggestion of painkillers. I didnt say it was pleasant or that it was the best course of action. In fact I said theres an antidote and that I wouldn't suggest it. People die from paracetamol toxicity.. What part of my information was wrong? It seems as though you ignored the entire last half of my comment. and simply repeated the fact that there is an antidote?
I also feel like mentioning that OP was considering taking an SSRI as a suicide attempt, paracetamol is far more likely to be successful, and wont render her with serotonin syndrome. But I wasn't giving it as medical advice, as stated.

Just for the record, I understood your post about paracetamol as a response to @Severen's observation that OTC drugs aren't very effective for suicide, and it did sound like you were saying paracetamol is an exception. I didn't understand (at all) what you meant by "if you can get pain relief". You did indeed say you wouldn't suggest it, but it was confusing.

Maybe let's go back to opioids. If fentanyl's not worth the effort of getting, there's another good theory shot to hell! Damb.
 
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jake3d

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Maybe let's go back to opioids. If fentanyl's not worth the effort of getting, there's another good theory shot to hell! Damb.

It is worth getting. Fentanyl + benzos = win. All the druggie "harm reduction" sites recommend NOT mixing the two - that's saying something.
 
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Ladylethal

Ladylethal

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Jun 16, 2019
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Can you not get N? That's gonna be your best shot. Takes weeks to come through from your threads you seem quite desperate
I can but if it's intercepted by someone here I'm fucked
I would avoid using anything that can easily be obtained from a doctor and pharmacy to CTB because you'll probably just end up in a hospital with brain damage. Because if they are easy to obtain, it means nobody sees these drugs as a threat.
Yeah that's very true
 
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FionaWR

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May 27, 2019
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I can but if it's intercepted by someone here I'm fucked

You are gonna be much better off with N. Are you in the uk cos I had no problems with delivery. I used a fake name and used a VPN to order spam mail in that name too.
 
Ladylethal

Ladylethal

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Jun 16, 2019
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You are gonna be much better off with N. Are you in the uk cos I had no problems with delivery. I used a fake name and used a VPN to order spam mail in that name too.
Oh no I'm in the USA...I'm just worried about someone being nosey and finding/taking the shit from me. Which could seriously happen. Just thinking of everything that could go wrong is all.
 
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FionaWR

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May 27, 2019
67
Ah I see. Well if you order in a fake name you can claim ignorance if somebody were to find it?
 
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Thanatos

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Mar 23, 2018
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Oh no I'm in the USA...I'm just worried about someone being nosey and finding/taking the shit from me. Which could seriously happen. Just thinking of everything that could go wrong is all.
This is a very reasonable concern but preventable with some measures. I was dumb and had my N taken from me last year, luckily it was just thrown away. Funnily enough if my name had been on the package my mom never would have opened it and I'd be long gone from this hell hole. The conspicuous writing raised suspicion and got it taken
 
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