Hanging

[Laststop]

Can someone give me a quick run down about hanging? I ask (and please direct your answers to this end please) because I keep reading general comments that take it for granted that hanging is a good way to go. I missed the info leading up to this. It seems kind of scary to me. I mean, of course it would. But as a method isn't it awful and painful?? What makes it such a favorable CTB method in this group? Thanks.

 

[YukiFox]

If you do correctly, hanging will be a quick method. The goal is to achieve unconsciousness to blocking the blood flood to the brain. The pain it could be when the ligature blocks the trachea and not the carotid artery.
I think is a praised method for three personal thoughts: 1. It's bloodless. Sure, it is triggering to found a hanged person, but it doesn't have that gore about a stabbing or shooting. 2. The settings. A lot of materials could be a ligature to achieve death. 3. The private side of hanging. Unless someone else hear you trashing your body, hanging is a definitive, high death rate method, since in some countries you can't find a gun but in all countries the scarves and ropes aren't banned, you can choose it whenever you want it. And when you do it, until they find you you can pass away with silence and inner peace.
Personally I can only CTB with that method. I fantasize a lot to setting up everything, from the clothing to the time (I choose the sunrise). I fantasize about how can be a quick experience. I tried partial once but I failed, but perhaps if I decide to take my own life I'll choose full suspension.

 

[Lookingforabus]

But as a method isn't it awful and painful?? What makes it such a favorable CTB method in this group? Thanks.

It's a favored method for suicides in general, because it's effective, cheap, easy, accessible, quick and virtually painless... at least when done right. (It also should leave a peaceful-looking, intact body, which is important to a lot of folks.)

Most people can get their hands on a rope or other ligature and a solid anchor point far more easily than fatal drugs or a gun or nitrogen gas or a 50 meter freefall or whatever, and it's usually cheaper than other options, too.

It's got a lethality rate in the 80 or 90 percents (depending on the study you look at), and with a bit of research and some testing beforehand, it should be possible to eliminate any possible failure points. (Make sure the rope is strong enough, the anchor point is strong enough, the knot slides and holds and that you'll be alone for 30 minutes.)

A hanging (done right) will compress the carotid arteries, stopping the blood flow to the brain, and result in unconsciousness in less that 10 seconds, so it's quick and painless. If that doesn't happen, then yes, unconsciousness and death is caused by closing off the airway... which is painful and takes at least a few minutes to cause unconsciousness.

 

[Worndown]

While one must plan, do not overthink this. It is an ancient method about as far from rocket science as we can get.

 

[who doesn't matter]

Just a quick question, what is the right way to do full suspension?

 

[Lookingforabus]

Get a rope or other ligature of your choosing, tie it to anchor point, and test to see if it supports your weight. Make sure neither the rope nor the anchor point are damaged under the weight. Test by lifting yourself off the ground with your arms for full suspension or leaning into it with the noose around your chest or arm or leg for partial. Don't test using your neck yet, for obvious reasons. Practice tying a proper slipknot, and then test the knot to make sure it pulls tight and stays tight when you add weight to it. Again, better to put your arm in the noose and pull than to use your neck. Test to make sure the position you use will keep pressure on the ligature (and keep that ligature tightened) - in full suspension, make sure your feet will definitely be off the ground, with partial, make sure you won't be able to fall or convulse in a way that would take the pressure off the ligature. Make sure you've got a spot and time you'll be alone for 30 minutes.

Once you've covered those bases, that's all you need.

 

[Laststop]

I guess the only things left for me to figure out to possibly consider this as a method is the best kind of rope, the best knot, and where to place the rope and knot on the neck? I see getting the blood cut off is important to lose consciousness quick, but how do you do that? Do you use some kind of lube on the rope, or around your neck? Those sorts of things?

 

[YukiFox]

I guess the only things left for me to figure out to possibly consider this as a method is the best kind of rope, the best knot, and where to place the rope and knot on the neck? I see getting the blood cut off is important to lose consciousness quick, but how do you do that? Do you use some kind of lube on the rope, or around your neck? Those sorts of things?

the knot is always behind the neck. The rope is before the Adam's apple, just under the chin to achieve the compression of carotid artery. Some people suggest to put a shirt or any drape on the neck to avoid burn or discomfort, also to leave less rope mark on the skin.

 

[Laststop]

the knot is always behind the neck. The rope is before the Adam's apple, just under the chin to achieve the compression of carotid artery. Some people suggest to put a shirt or any drape on the neck to avoid burn or discomfort, also to leave less rope mark on the skin.

Thanks

 

[I’vehadenough]

Can I use a cotton bathrobe belt for partial and hang it on a door knob? It suppresses my arteries fast. Or is this too fragile of a material to risk?

 

[Liveandlearnagain]

While one must plan, do not overthink this. It is an ancient method about as far from rocket science as we can get.

I disagree. There IS a high likelihood of success, but lack of success can easily lead to permanent brain damage and disability. Whatever hell you are living now will be unendingly worse.

The rope or cord must be of proper tensile strength. Depending on partial or full suspension (or drop if you are going that route), you want to be safe and have your body weight be a fraction of the rope's minimum breaking weight. For some rope materials, this could be 5-20% of the breaking weight would be equal to a safe working load. All that any of this means is, you don't want the rope to break, which happens a lot and people fail.

In addition, the proper knots should be used. Climbing knots (for rock climbing) or other hitches for boat rigging or other industrial practices are good options to secure to the anchor point. Most people don't know this, but knots weaken a rope's tensile strength by up to 50%. Not usually a problem, but if you have a rope that is thin or already close to breaking points, the breaking point will be at the knot. This is because tying a knot bends and stretches the fibers at the knot point. What does this mean? Two things. One, if you tie the wrong type of knot on the wrong type of rope and you are too heavy, the rope will break at the knot. Two, if you don't tie a proper knot (it's not the same as tying your shoes or just any knot) it can come undone prematurely, leading to a failed hanging and brain damage.

These are only a few considerations. Rope material is important to avoid stretch as this can result in your feet touching the floor when the system is engaged and you kick out the chair from underneath you. A typical noose is also not the correct knot for hanging. That is for a drop hanging like you see in the movies, or the wild west. Judicial hangings. It may work, but it may be less than optimal, may not slide well, and if you are too light, it may result in a hanging that takes a drastically longer than necessary amount of time because the noose did not fully tighten down. Lubrication of the rope with beeswax or something else (depending on the type of rope) at the sliding point can be important.

Just playing devil's advocate. There have been books written about this matter. Militaries have written entire guides about how to conduct a proper hanging including rope thickness, knot types, structural integrity of the frame from which the rope will hang, and more.

That being said, tons of people who attempt hanging can get it done with a bedsheet, or shoelaces, or even a t shirt in prison.

My only point is that tons of people also fail because they didn't do it right.

I wouldn't test my luck with any of that. You'd hope to have a strong, correct rope, the right knots, a proper anchor point, and all the other variables.

People have been successfully hanging themselves for centuries, but they've also been fucking it up for centuries too.

If you dig up the statistics, the vast majority of suicide attempts are failures. We see a few on here all the time.

 

[gingerplum]

Can I use a cotton bathrobe belt for partial and hang it on a door knob? It suppresses my arteries fast. Or is this too fragile of a material to risk?

You can use a bathrobe belt, a leather belt, a long scarf, or absolutely anything that will support your head and torso for partial. Alexander McQueen, L'Wren Scott, Kate Spade, Robin Williams, and Anthony Bourdain all used a variation of these; at least three of them used a door and/or doorknob.

I have actually lost consciousness doing this; the door wasn't properly latched, so it opened and I spilled out onto the floor. Before loss of consciousness it feels, as I once heard someone describe, like being swooped up and hugged by 'a ghost made of opiates'. Nothing unpleasant about it.

I think this method finds favor among so many because it's essentially free and accessible to virtually anyone. When done right, it's not only painless but it can be pleasant ( think It also leaves an intact body behind with little or no mess.

There is a tremendous amount of information here, in case you haven't seen it already: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/the-night-night-method-mega-thread.6834/

 

[I’vehadenough]

You can use a bathrobe belt, a leather belt, a long scarf, or absolutely anything that will support your head and torso for partial. Alexander McQueen, L'Wren Scott, Kate Spade, Robin Williams, and Anthony Bourdain all used a variation of these; at least three of them used a door and/or doorknob.

I have actually lost consciousness doing this; the door wasn't properly latched, so it opened and I spilled out onto the floor. Before loss of consciousness it feels, as I once heard someone describe, like being swooped up and hugged by 'a ghost made of opiates'. Nothing unpleasant about it.

I think this method finds favor among so many because it's essentially free and accessible to virtually anyone. When done right, it's not only painless but it can be pleasant ( think It also leaves an intact body behind with little or no mess.

There is a tremendous amount of information here, in case you haven't seen it already: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/the-night-night-method-mega-thread.6834/

Thank you. What did you use when you tried it? And since the robe belt isn't long enough to drape over the door, I would just tie it to the door knob and kneel forward on the ground. This would work, right?

 

[gingerplum]

Thank you. What did you use when you tried it? And since the robe belt isn't long enough to drape over the door, I would just tie it to the door knob and kneel forward on the ground. This would work, right?

You're welcome. It was about a year ago, and yes, provided the height is right, a doorknob would work.

 

[gingerplum]

You're welcome. It was about a year ago, and yes, provided the height is right, a doorknob would work.

I'm sorry, you asked what I used, not when... I had good results with a leather belt I had closed in the door.

 

[Mynameisnotimportant]

In my profile I have a long detailed post on how I almost succeeded

 

[heylightiforgot]

I would like to try this, but our house is very flimsily constructed and I can't think of anything I could attach the 'noose' to (potentially a belt). The door handles etc. simply aren't strong enough. We have a sliding door that exits onto the backyard, so I thought maybe wedge it in there? And the front door is more sturdy but I worry about being heard since it's a small house.

I'm guessing hanging does require something strong for support, unless I'm missing something obvious?

 

[9137890]

Would be a simple knot or a slip knot better for partial? On lostallhope stands that a simple knot is enough but the suicide wiki says a slip knot. In hardware stores are ropes sold for 70, 150, 250 and even 400 kg. Which one should I buy and what about the thickness?

 

[farid]

I disagree. There IS a high likelihood of success, but lack of success can easily lead to permanent brain damage and disability. Whatever hell you are living now will be unendingly worse.

The rope or cord must be of proper tensile strength. Depending on partial or full suspension (or drop if you are going that route), you want to be safe and have your body weight be a fraction of the rope's minimum breaking weight. For some rope materials, this could be 5-20% of the breaking weight would be equal to a safe working load. All that any of this means is, you don't want the rope to break, which happens a lot and people fail.

In addition, the proper knots should be used. Climbing knots (for rock climbing) or other hitches for boat rigging or other industrial practices are good options to secure to the anchor point. Most people don't know this, but knots weaken a rope's tensile strength by up to 50%. Not usually a problem, but if you have a rope that is thin or already close to breaking points, the breaking point will be at the knot. This is because tying a knot bends and stretches the fibers at the knot point. What does this mean? Two things. One, if you tie the wrong type of knot on the wrong type of rope and you are too heavy, the rope will break at the knot. Two, if you don't tie a proper knot (it's not the same as tying your shoes or just any knot) it can come undone prematurely, leading to a failed hanging and brain damage.

These are only a few considerations. Rope material is important to avoid stretch as this can result in your feet touching the floor when the system is engaged and you kick out the chair from underneath you. A typical noose is also not the correct knot for hanging. That is for a drop hanging like you see in the movies, or the wild west. Judicial hangings. It may work, but it may be less than optimal, may not slide well, and if you are too light, it may result in a hanging that takes a drastically longer than necessary amount of time because the noose did not fully tighten down. Lubrication of the rope with beeswax or something else (depending on the type of rope) at the sliding point can be important.

Just playing devil's advocate. There have been books written about this matter. Militaries have written entire guides about how to conduct a proper hanging including rope thickness, knot types, structural integrity of the frame from which the rope will hang, and more.

That being said, tons of people who attempt hanging can get it done with a bedsheet, or shoelaces, or even a t shirt in prison.

My only point is that tons of people also fail because they didn't do it right.

I wouldn't test my luck with any of that. You'd hope to have a strong, correct rope, the right knots, a proper anchor point, and all the other variables.

People have been successfully hanging themselves for centuries, but they've also been fucking it up for centuries too.

If you dig up the statistics, the vast majority of suicide attempts are failures. We see a few on here all the time.

our friend has said in his comment that ((( There have been books written about this matter. Militaries have written entire guides about how to conduct a proper hanging including rope thickness, knot types, structural integrity of the frame from which the rope will hang, and more.)))
now does anybody know the name of these books that I can read and improve my knowledge about hanging and I can commit suicide successfully.
thank you.

 

[Myrvann]

Here' s the old U.S. Army manual. Long drop only, I'm afraid.

Search results from Military Legal Resources, Available Online

Search results 1 - 25 of 2219.

www.loc.gov

 

[Walilamdzi]

Thanks for the info.

 

[Tamazi 123]

I get so scared about where to put the noose under the jaw or under the Adams apple. I don't want to choke to death that would be horrific