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fleischmaschina

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Jun 3, 2023
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Hi,
I read hanging megathread again about partial suspension which seems better and easier method than full susp. when done in the woods. But I have a couple of questions. So slipknot is recommended knot, but where do you place the loop on the neck and where exactly does knot go? I know the goal is to block arteries. Also, how much do you have to kneel? Do knees have to reach to bottom? Is it possible that body will involuntarily stand up somehow (does this question sound stupid? Sorry). If I understand correctly you should press down just the right amount to block blood flow but not too much, correct?

Thanks for your help!
 
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dolemitedrums

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Jun 12, 2024
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Here's how one guy did it anyway and it seems to have gone fairly quickly. Yes the body can stand up or stay standing while unconscious.

 
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AflacDuck

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Hanging wouldn't be my first choice, but if it were me to use hanging. Have you ever considered looking at the same documentation hangmen used. If you can calculate the drop and the angle. You can get a clean snap rather than by aphyxia.
 
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dolemitedrums

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Hanging wouldn't be my first choice, but if it were me to use hanging. Have you ever considered looking at the same documentation hangmen used. If you can calculate the drop and the angle. You can get a clean snap rather than by aphyxia.

It's pretty tough to do the full drop properly, keep the knot positioned right, find the proper height etc.
 
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Evelyn Lane

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Aug 2, 2024
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Hi,
I read hanging megathread again about partial suspension which seems better and easier method than full susp. when done in the woods. But I have a couple of questions. So slipknot is recommended knot, but where do you place the loop on the neck and where exactly does knot go? I know the goal is to block arteries. Also, how much do you have to kneel? Do knees have to reach to bottom? Is it possible that body will involuntarily stand up somehow (does this question sound stupid? Sorry). If I understand correctly you should press down just the right amount to block blood flow but not too much, correct?

Thanks for your help!
Hello.

First of all, ignore the people saying that you need to snap your neck: it doesn't cause unconsciousness or death and it just paralyzes you. Secondly, I'd advise against partial suspension because it extremely extremely unreliable. Trust me, I know. I know it's a hassle, but full suspension is infinitely better.

Now, onto your questions, if you insist on partial:
You place the loop as high up in the neck as possible, close to the jaw. The knot should go perfectly behind your neck.
To compress the carotids you will have to apply A LOT of pressure (hence why I talk about full instead of partial).
Your body won't stand up at any point, I don't think that happens.
Note that you will feel pressure in your trachea too, but this is inevitable. To compress the carotids you will sadly end up closing your airway too.

The reason I advise full is because you are guaranteed to pass out within 20 seconds, instead of remaining conscious. And remember that with partial you will stay conscious for at least a minute, gasping for air (it won't be quiet). The reason I know this is because I've seen videos of this.

Hope this helps, any questions, just let us know. And well done for choosing hanging as your method, I like that method.
 
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H4t

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Aug 18, 2024
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Hello.

First of all, ignore the people saying that you need to snap your neck: it doesn't cause unconsciousness or death and it just paralyzes you. Secondly, I'd advise against partial suspension because it extremely extremely unreliable. Trust me, I know. I know it's a hassle, but full suspension is infinitely better.

Now, onto your questions, if you insist on partial:
You place the loop as high up in the neck as possible, close to the jaw. The knot should go perfectly behind your neck.
To compress the carotids you will have to apply A LOT of pressure (hence why I talk about full instead of partial).
Your body won't stand up at any point, I don't think that happens.
Note that you will feel pressure in your trachea too, but this is inevitable. To compress the carotids you will sadly end up closing your airway too.

The reason I advise full is because you are guaranteed to pass out within 20 seconds, instead of remaining conscious. And remember that with partial you will stay conscious for at least a minute, gasping for air (it won't be quiet). The reason I know this is because I've seen videos of this.

Hope this helps, any questions, just let us know. And well done for choosing hanging as your method, I like that method.
Hey, just curious, have you tried and failed with partial before? I'm super curious about your level of confidence and what you have to back it up, because I want to be thorough with my choice of method. My first failure was because I was sloppy because I was overly emotional, I now how much more clarity.
 
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Evelyn Lane

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Aug 2, 2024
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Hey, just curious, have you tried and failed with partial before? I'm super curious about your level of confidence and what you have to back it up, because I want to be thorough with my choice of method. My first failure was because I was sloppy because I was overly emotional, I now how much more clarity.
Hi. Yes, I tried partial many times before, to the point where I was ready to die from it, but it never worked. What I found out is that you can die from partial in two ways, without restricting your breathing and by restricting your breathing. Dying without restricting your breathing happens either randomly or after a prolonged period of time (over a minute of you breathing really really loudly). Dying by restricting your breathing is more common, from what I gathered: you can definitely die (in theory, I haven't tested this) from partial if you pull on the noose hard enough to block not just your carotid arteries, but also the upper part of your airway, while not easing off on the noose. When I attempted by partial I never had this realization, but now I do, and I found out that partial is very very uncomfortable, to the point where I'd rather go with full suspension to guarantee that I pass out.
You seem new to all of this: if you haven't already, you should definitely check out my guide on hanging, the link is in the signature.
 
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H4t

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Hi. Yes, I tried partial many times before, to the point where I was ready to die from it, but it never worked. What I found out is that you can die from partial in two ways, without restricting your breathing and by restricting your breathing. Dying without restricting your breathing happens either randomly or after a prolonged period of time (over a minute of you breathing really really loudly). Dying by restricting your breathing is more common, from what I gathered: you can definitely die (in theory, I haven't tested this) from partial if you pull on the noose hard enough to block not just your carotid arteries, but also the upper part of your airway, while not easing off on the noose. When I attempted by partial I never had this realization, but now I do, and I found out that partial is very very uncomfortable, to the point where I'd rather go with full suspension to guarantee that I pass out.
You seem new to all of this: if you haven't already, you should definitely check out my guide on hanging, the link is in the signature.
Thanks, I skimmed it and will spend more time looking later.

I have in the mean time found an anchor point in my home, which after watching those videos, seems the best option. My initial plan to use the park will be too risky, and I refuse to be caught or thwarted.

I have chosen a (European style) window to enclose the rope in, and it seems to hold my weight on initial tests. All I have to test is soft nylon kink rope, which I may consider using, but will research further for best type.
Seeing those videos have given me more confidence in the partial suspension method, but I have a lot of time and reasearch to complete first.

Thanks for the link and the tips.
 
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