Government run suicide centers

[Jessica5]

Am I the only person who thinks the government should run suicide centers where people can kill themselves? They should have death penalty drugs so people can kill themselves as peacefully as possible. Other options should include the firing squad.

I think the only restriction on getting a suicide there should be a one week waiting period, so that way you prevent somebody who really is temporarily unhappy from killing themselves.

 

[Meretlein]

The government needs it's tax base though. The more people the government loses, they weaker it gets. Thats why even countries with liberal euthanasia policies will only permit euthanasia if you can no longer be productive.

 

[Soul]

There are some serious problems with death-penalty drugs, actually. But aside from that: Yes! When I'm in charge there will be conveniently located Easy Exit Centres, about as common as banks. Vote for me!

 

[Jessica5]

There are some serious problems with death-penalty drugs, actually:

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But aside from that: Yes! When I'm in charge there will be conveniently located Easy Exit Centres, about as common as banks. Vote for me!

I tend to think the death penalty drugs are about as close to a painless death as a person can get. They aren't completely painless, but no drug is.

 

[Soul]

Actually a lot of voices are pointing out that they aren't painless, which is part of the reason drug companies don't want to provide them, leading to shortages and iffy substitutions and so on. My Easy Exit Centres will work a lot better than that.

 

[Vegrau]

The government needs it's tax base though. The more people the government loses, they weaker it gets. Thats why even countries with liberal euthanasia policies will only permit euthanasia if you can no longer be productive.

But really thats just their wishful thinking. How can someone who wish to die be productive in anyway? More like people that want to die usually have debilitating illness that stop them from being productive and in turn using gov programs. Which are paid by taxes. How these politicians think is beyond me. Wasnt as if if they legalize euthanasia suddenly half the work force want to die. If that the case they have bigger underlying issues that they need to solve. Its just silly.

 

[Johnnythefox]

We have them in the UK, they're part of the DWP.

 

[NgaiOiTai]

As is often the case with government decisions, it's probably greatly influenced by big business.

Think about how much money you'd spend on things for the rest of your life: Tesco, Amazon, Netflix, iTunes, etc, if you lived another 40 years. You're quite the customer.

If Tesco or Amazon held a shareholder's meeting about persuading the government to make euthanasia freely available, you can imagine how unappealing it would be for them.

"Dear valued shareholders whose investments are determined by our profits, these customers all want us to bribepersuade the government to make euthanasia freely available. Each customer will spend an average of £25,000 on purchases at our company over the remainder of their lives, which we will obviously not receive if they're dead. Do you vote yay, or nay?"

 

[GeorgeJL]

Am I the only person who thinks the government should run suicide centers where people can kill themselves? They should have death penalty drugs so people can kill themselves as peacefully as possible. Other options should include the firing squad.

I think the only restriction on getting a suicide there should be a one week waiting period, so that way you prevent somebody who really is temporarily unhappy from killing themselves.

The firing squad will never ever happen much less in a first world country. But I do think that suicide will eventually become legal for anyone over 18 that doesn't want to live.

 

[Alan James]

Simply selling N in pharmacies without a prescription is all that is needed. It would be very cheap. Even euthanasia is not necessary for me - it is necessary for those who are not able to go and buy N on their own.

 

[Soul]

Three US states currently authorize execution by firing squad if lethal-injection drugs are unavailable, and some prisoners in Tennessee or somewhere have petitioned to have firing squads instead of iffy injections. If it's good enough for death row ...

Methods of Execution

The Death Penalty Information Center is a non-profit organization serving the media and the public with analysis and information about capital punishment.…

deathpenaltyinfo.org

My Easy Exit Centres will offer a range of options. Counsellors, event planners, photographers and last meals also available.

 

[Alan James]

But I do think that suicide will eventually become legal for anyone over 18 that doesn't want to live.

I'm sure of it, It's unavoidable, but it probably won't be until 2050-2060.

 

[Dartz]

Futurama Suicide Booths?

 

[GeorgeJL]

Futurama Suicide Booths?

We already have that with the sarco. Look it up. Can't wait for it to be legalized.

 

[DeepMind]

Reminds me of this:

 

[Final Escape]

I think it would be great if there was a humane service that helps people die in the private sector. But I would not want gov in control because that's when a good thing turns bad. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Often government does something that people assume is a good thing but they don't see the hidden costs, damages, or abuse of power.

 

[GeorgeJL]

I think it would be great if there was a humane service that helps people die in the private sector. But I would not want gov in control because that's when a good thing turns bad. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Often government does something that people assume is a good thing but they don't see the hidden costs, damages, or abuse of power.

I'm not convinced, just take a look at the prison system how many of them are run by private companies and because of that they get to abuse the prisoners.

 

[TAW122]

I'm for it, but of course, with safety measures put in place and many checks and screening would prevent impulsive suicides or people who haven't thought about their decision thoroughly. I'm also for those who are suffering immensely through terminal illnesses and also long term chronic pain/disabilities.

 

[NextSummer]

People will say "Go hang yourself but don't use my tax money for something I don't support". You need to have good arguments in order to make this work. So we shouldn't ask for government run centers, we should ask that the government should not stand in our way for a peaceful death by restricting N access. Everybody can afford N powder and everybody can drink it without involving a third party like a doctor. We pay for it and we drink it. Otherwise if we demand a service, I think we will not get it. So many assholes out there, that don't care that life is miserable for a few.

 

[NotWhatIExpected]

People will say "Go hang yourself but don't use my tax money for something I don't support". You need to have good arguments in order to make this work. So we shouldn't ask for government run centers, we should ask that the government should not stand in our way for a peaceful death by restricting N access. Everybody can afford N powder and everybody can drink it without involving a third party like a doctor. We pay for it and we drink it. Otherwise if we demand a service, I think we will not get it. So many assholes out there, that don't care that life is miserable for a few.

Plus hanging is in my experience very painful

I'm not convinced, just take a look at the prison system how many of them are run by private companies and because of that they get to abuse the prisoners.

It's a chicken or the egg I think

Private prisons seem awful but government laws make that system have a basis (that's kinda flawed because there's the obvious notion of "life would be a living hell if it was just The Purge every single day" and also there's the notion than many of our laws have their root in legal notions that came about hundreds or thousands of years ago)--on the other hand, a prosperous private prison system can easily influence politicians

There's a lot of "chicken-or-the-egg" thinking can you make very sick especially when it comes to the concept of prisons and homelessness, and it has really really been fucking me up the last few days and beyond

Three US states currently authorize execution by firing squad if lethal-injection drugs are unavailable, and some prisoners in Tennessee or somewhere have petitioned to have firing squads instead of iffy injections. If it's good enough for death row ...

Methods of Execution

The Death Penalty Information Center is a non-profit organization serving the media and the public with analysis and information about capital punishment.…

deathpenaltyinfo.org

My Easy Exit Centres will offer a range of options. Counsellors, event planners, photographers and last meals also available.

I feel like firing squads are an inaccurate waste, why not just shoot someone in the back of the head point blank?

I see the argument if it's like "public enemy #1" but do you really want that as a version of a painless way out?

 

[faraway_beach]

I feel like firing squads are an inaccurate waste, why not just shoot someone in the back of the head point blank?

There are multiple people in a firing squad because not all of them have live ammo. It's traumatic to kill someone even if that's your job. You can ease your conscience a bit by thinking, maybe I didn't fire a real shot, maybe I'm not the one responsible for ending a life.

 

[NotWhatIExpected]

There are multiple people in a firing squad because not all of them have live ammo. It's traumatic to kill someone even if that's your job. You can ease your conscience a bit by thinking, maybe I didn't fire a real shot, maybe I'm not the one responsible for ending a life.

Well, regardless, the fact that they aim for the heart and not somewhere that promises a quicker death seems inhumane to me

If that was my job I'd prefer to just be able to shoot them in the back of the head

I get also that if everybody focused on the head they'd probably miss because it's a small target but so is the heart