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I've never taken them myself. I know someone who did, a father of 4, who took his life however, and I know they can cause suicidal ideation. And from what I've read it's very hard to quit taking them but the author of this article made it through and came out the other side. My intention is not to get into arguments about the effectiveness of anti-depressants, just to share someone else's experience and maybe it could help someone. With love~🙏💕

 
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That's so strange because I got it no problem. There is a pop-up that comes up but I just closed it out and got to the article.

I spent half my life on antidepressants. Today, I'm off the medication and feel all right.


Perspective by Brooke Siem
January 5, 2020 at 11:00 a.m. EST

"The prescriptions began in the wake of my father's sudden death when I was 15: Wellbutrin XL and Effexor XR for anxiety and depression, two separate doses of Synthroid to right a low-functioning thyroid, a morning and nighttime dose of tetracycline for acne, birth control to regulate the unpleasant side effects of womanhood, and four doses of Sucralfate to be taken at each meal and before bedtime — all given to me by the time I was old enough to vote.

….. At age 30, I found myself hanging halfway out my Manhattan high-rise window, calculating the time it would take to hit the ground. Still depressed despite my antidepressants — possibly caused by the possible decrease in antidepressants' efficacy over time or because I'd never properly dealt with loss and trauma — I regularly considered suicide. As I looked for breaks in the pedestrian traffic patterns, a thought dawned on me: I've spent half my life — and my entire adult life — on antidepressants. Who might I be without them?

The suicidal gears in my mind came to a screeching halt.

I pulled myself back inside my apartment, scheduled an appointment with a new psychiatrist and made the decision to get off all the drugs before deciding whether to take my life. I needed to figure out my true baseline. If I didn't like what I found, well, the window was always open.

Flash forward to today, 3½ years since I took my last antidepressant. I'm all right. Deeply, honestly, joyfully, all right.
I followed my psychiatrist's advice and went off one drug at a time, beginning with Effexor XR. I was on the lowest dose available — just 37.5 mg per day — so I had no choice but to stop taking the Effexor, cold turkey. Within 24 hours of missing my usual dose, flulike symptoms set in and my emotions went into overdrive; so in between the sweats and the shakes, I resisted the urge to saw off my skin with a box cutter just to get away from myself.

After six days without the drug in my system, my mind began to flood with bloody, homicidal visions. I was too scared to tell my psychiatrist what was flashing through my mind because I feared that she would deem me a danger to myself or others and put me on an involuntary, psychiatric hold.

I called an old family friend, a psychologist who lived across the country. She assured me that I wasn't going to hurt anyone, but I still didn't trust myself not to snap.

So I locked myself in my apartment for a week.

The visions eventually lifted and were replaced by an intolerable sensitivity to light and sound. I tore the clothes off my back when shirts I'd worn for years suddenly became unbearably itchy. Then, I bent a metal ironing board in half out of rage.

I am not alone in this experience. In one New Zealand study of 180 long-term antidepressant users, 73 percent of participants reported withdrawal effects, with 33 percent reporting their effects as severe. Even several clinical trials aimed at discontinuing long-term antidepressant prescriptions "failed to successfully withdraw a majority of patients from the drugs despite slow and gradual tapers," according to a 2019 article on antidepressant withdrawal published in Epidemiology and Psychiatric Sciences.

For many people, antidepressants can be literal lifesavers. But not everyone wants to stay on them indefinitely, and herein lies the problem: There are few accounts about what it's like to get off and stay off these drugs. For good.

The American Psychological Association reports that 12.7 percent of the American population is on antidepressants. One analysis found that nearly 15.5 million people have taken antidepressants for more than five years.

….. The people who reach out to me are looking for hope. Hope that they can escape what's been presented to them as a choice between depression or antidepressants. They want to rewrite their own personal stories, they want role models for how to do that, and few are available.

"The lack of research into patients who have recovered from depression is a great puzzle to me," says Jonathan Rottenberg, professor of psychology at the University of South Florida. "The fields of psychology, psychiatry, epidemiology, and public health focus on the causes of people doing poorly — having more depression and more symptoms — rather than the causes of people doing well. We need to flip that paradigm."

But hope, much like depression itself, can't be measured in a lab. So what role does it play in the brain?

"Neurotransmitters are activated by more than just medicine," Crum says. "If you eat something you like, chocolate for example, dopamine spikes. It's a pleasurable activity that has nothing to do with medication. Having hope, being inspired, being encouraged — that's a pleasurable state. There's a chemical change because you feel different."

Fidel Vila-Rodriguez, a clinician-scientist at the University of British Columbia, says he observes the effects of hope in his research on the neurobiology of mental disorders.

"Before the clinical trial begins," he says, "patients report all these symptoms. Three days later, when they've officially entered the clinical trial but we haven't begun any treatment, they tell us that they're doing better. It's because they have hope. We [as researchers] have done nothing. There are variables — nonmedication and nontreatment factors — that contribute to people feeling better. Hope is one of them.

Had I been shown a role model for hope and a life without antidepressants early on, would I have spent so many years struggling to cope? I can't ever know the answer. That's part of what was taken from me.

But what I do know is that we rarely speak about depression as a temporary human experience.

So let me introduce myself:
My name is Brooke Siem. I am 33 years old. I spent nearly 15 years on antidepressants. As of today, it's been 1,368 days without them.
And I'm all right."
 
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Thanks for sharing. It's a funny thing: we live in a culture that claims to tolerate diversity more than at any other time in history, and yet at the same time, what's considered "normal" has just shrunk and shrunk and shrunk over the years. We've now arrived at a point where you have people like the woman in the article who are thoughtlessly put on medication because they have a normal and expected--but temporary--human reaction (depression and anxiety) to a normal experience (death of a loved one).
 
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I've never taken them myself. I know someone who did, a father of 4, who took his life however, and I know they can cause suicidal ideation. And from what I've read it's very hard to quit taking them but the author of this article made it through and came out the other side. My intention is not to get into arguments about the effectiveness of anti-depressants, just to share someone else's experience and maybe it could help someone. With love~🙏💕

I've been anti depressants for 2 years now horrible side effects cold turkey but, I feel heaps better being off them! I do feel they disrupted my memory and have patches I can't remember.
 
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