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Açucarzinho583

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Since I was a child, I've always had a clear dream: to become a physicist. Specifically, a theoretical physicist. From a young age, looking up at the sky made me feel something indescribable. The stars, the planets, the galaxies—all of them seemed to call out to me. I wanted to understand the universe, unravel its mysteries, and contribute to something greater. I studied with dedication, sacrificed countless nights of sleep, and gave up moments with friends and family to chase this dream. But now, here I am, standing before an enormous void. It's not just the lack of opportunities or the weight of frustrations—it feels as if the universe, the same one that always inspired me, is telling me that my existence doesn't matter.

At the same time, I lived according to the values I was taught: honesty, respect, compassion. I never cheated, never stepped on anyone to get ahead, even when I knew it could give me an advantage. But while I struggled to follow the right path, I watched dishonest people thrive. Those who manipulated, lied, and walked over others were promoted and received recognition. The corrupt became wealthy, the liar was admired, and I, in my effort to do what was right, remained invisible.

I feel as though God lied to me. Of course, I never believed in God. To me, He has always been an idea created to give meaning to chaos, a source of comfort for those who cannot face reality. I grew up believing that we are responsible for our own destinies, that the universe is indifferent, and that there is no greater purpose beyond what we build for ourselves.

But sometimes, it's impossible not to feel as if this "lie" of God has hit me too. Not because I believe in Him, but because I've lived surrounded by an implicit promise: that things would make sense, that effort would be rewarded, that justice would prevail. Even without believing in something greater, I learned to live with the idea that the world, in some way, had order, a balance.

And here I am, in the same place as any disillusioned believer. There is no God, but there is the feeling of having been deceived. What is more cruel: to believe and be betrayed, or not to believe and still feel the weight of a lie that was never meant for you?
 
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Withered

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I feel you man. I'm a high-energy physicist with similar struggles with God despite never having believed. Rock-bottom makes you want to believe in the idea of some moral, just kismet—or at least disappointed there is none. In the words of the believers, peace be with you.
 
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Apr 15, 2025
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To be fair the true believers aren't on here because they know they have God with them and it is through their faith in God that protects them from nihilism. The Bible teaches those with greater knowledge also greater their sorrow and that man is full of sin and this corrupt world will eventually be destroyed by fire.

Anyway, the rest of us who either don't believe or struggle to whole heartedly believe are left wondering what the fuck is this world about beyond our own interests.

Group think is frustrating to witness. It is often said that "It's not what you know, it's who you know" but they always leave out the other part "how what you know, leads to who you know". "What you know" here doesn't mean knowledge, it means leverage.

Yea I know what you mean, same end point yet completely different roads. I guess deception is deception regardless. You're just swapping one thing for another thing.

At least you have the knowledge and skills to create. Maybe "God/universe" will give you a sign.
 
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Forever Sleep

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I'm sat on the fence but leaning towards atheism so, I'd suggest that it was every bit, if not more likely that people lied to you about God and everything else. If you hadn't grown up around people, you may not even have these feelings that there is some greater plan or order or power. It doesn't seem like many animals worship a God.

The weirder thing is- they could be right or, they could be utterly wrong. I think it very likely that as soon as we started to feel existential fear/ dread- that our minds started to compensate for that by making up stories. Maybe when we look for evidence, we hope it will support some order or purpose.

I suppose I find it weirder that, if there is a God, why they don't make their wishes or the bigger plan clearer? There are apparently estimated to be between 4,000 to 10,000 religions wordwide. Presumably, they contradict each other and don't tolerate one another. Why would God want people choosing the 'wrong' religion? Too many things don't make sense for me to buy it.

But yeah- I suspect it's a coping mechanism to believe it's all part of a master plan. I fall for it too. When shitty stuff happens, I have this dumb hope that it will work out for the greater good. Maybe it weakens the feeling a bit but, even if I recognise my ideas are delusional and are a crutch effectively to help me through, they still help a little I suppose. I simply go for: MAYBE this will work out for the better. Plus, I suppose- yes this is bad but, all you can do is try to deal with it now.

I suppose there's also a freedom to feeling it may not all be so serious. While I also agree it's best not to hurt others, if we can enjoy ourselves without doing that, maybe that's fine. It would be nice if we were in fact able to fully enjoy the positives of being able to experience being alive. The sun on your face, the smell in a forest, the colours of a sunset, the taste of a biscuit. If only there wasn't all the other crap that went with it! Maybe it would be nice though to truly feel that nothing was expected of us. That we didn't have some grand role to fulfil. I actually think some of us would feel happier if we weren't so concerned about fulfilling our potential and all that.
 

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