Given what you now know about life, would you have chosen to be born?

[Daystavro]

None of us actually chooses to be born.
Our parents decide to have us and then we are born.

I certainly wouldn't.
Not into this evil and cruel life.
Life is filled with evil , unkind and cruel people. who laugh at you, harass you and bully you.
And you have to study with stressful exams and essays and work your whole life in stressful jobs with evil people who laugh at you and harass you and bully you.
Life is full bad thoughts, emotions, feelings, stress , worry and fear.
Also our bodies are incredibly weak and frail and fragile, and there are so prone to pain and disease.


If the world was different, filled with only kind and nice people and you didn't have to study or work 1 second and there was no stress worry or fear, and there was no emotional or physical pain or diease than I would have wanted to be born.
But of course this life is not like that.
It's a nightmare.

 

[worldexploder]

Of course not! I don't think anyone would choose this life. Still trying to figure out why parents choose it for us.

 

[Threads]

Yes.

While I have suffered immensely, I would prefer to experience the suffering, pain, and trauma and use it to heal others.

 

[Daystavro]

Of course not! I don't think anyone would choose this life. Still trying to figure out why parents choose it for us.

They want to continue their DNA and also they hope we will care for them when they are old.

 

[skitliv]

Nope, wouldn't want to partake in any of this

 

[worldexploder]

They want to continue their DNA and also they hope we wilp care for them when they are old.

What a horrible imposition

 

[BaconCheeseburger]

I guess if I had a conscience as an embryo and I knew I was going to suffer this much I'd be like 'fuck it, I'm out'

 

[hunter_lewis]

Yes I would choose to be born but in a different body if possible.

 

[Roph]

No; not at all. My life has been a suffering waste.

 

[Daystavro]

I guess if I had a conscience as an embryo and I knew I was going to suffer this much I'd be like 'fuck it, I'm out'

Again, depends on the conditions of the world.

The conditions of this world are horrible.
You have to study and work your whole life.
And rhe world is filled with evil and unkind an imoral people who only laugh at you, harass you and bully you.

 

[NemoZeno]

Never.
I wouldn't even choose a blissful existence since I'm way too paranoid that such a thing isn't permanent.
Going further: I believe that if I choose bliss even hypothetically, that in itself will condemn me.

Why would it condemn? Because in choosing a bliss only life, I am rejecting a life that has pain and suffering which can make life more "rich and fulfilling" and leads to the "ultimate good".
Let's do a comparison: which life would you say is one that produces the ultimate good?
One were there is nothing but bliss or one that is full of adversity but there is a perseverance of goodness?
What is "more good"? A being who does good in a blissful existence or a being who does good in spite of the fact of facing immense suffering and can choose to do otherwise?
If I choose the easy over the ultimate good, that in itself is "wrong" according to apologists/theologians/God maybe.

Maybe this will help clarify a little (considering it's influence, I am talking about Christianity):
-Before Genesis 1, angels and whatever existed alongside (white male *eye rolls*) God. Meaning all were in heaven with God.
Free will or not, some of these beloved beings were cast out for revolting.
I don't know WTF the rules are there but apparently one can be cast out. That's fucking bonkers IMO and I don't care if the probability of that happening to me/you specifically is astronomically low: it's possible therefore it will always painfully and conspicuously stick out that it's not "safe".

I don't care if God him/themself/whatever guaranteed it to me: you guarantee that for all beings that you won't condemn them for eternity or no fucking deal I want out of existence.


That of course is positing there is an afterlife. If there isn't... well, if I don't have to do it then I won't. So if I don't have to exist then I don't want to. The end result is the same and meaningless all around.

 

[dysfunctional]

Its a hard call. I had a great run for nearly 33 years. Now the misery I'm in is so bad I'm not sure if the good times where worth it. Yeah, they definitely where- I just want it to be over now.

 

[Throwaway563078]

Absolutely not. I'd be out of my mind to want that. My life is a meaningless painful waste

 

[BaconCheeseburger]

Again, depends on the conditions of the world.

The conditions of this world are horrible.
You have to study and work your whole life.
And rhe world is filled with evil and unkind an imoral people who only laugh at you, harass you and bully you.

For me, it's not even external conditions that are bothering me. This is all in my head. Give me anyone elses' head (!) and this could all be fine

 

[Rocky M]

Absolutely not.

 

[Daystavro]

For me, it's not even external conditions that are bothering me. This is all in my head. Give me anyone elses' head (!) and this could all be fine

No, for me it's about the external conditions.
And the behavior of others.

If I had enough money so that I never had to study or work for 1 second, and never had to interact or talk to evil, and unkind and unpleasant people, I wouldn't ctb.
But of course this is not the reality.

 

[TiredHorse]

No, not seeing how the Earth and society are collapsing, and certainly not if I knew ahead of time what my personal life would be like.

 

[Susannah]

Yes.

While I have suffered immensely, I would prefer to experience the suffering, pain, and trauma and use it to heal others.

This is hard for me to understand, but if you're capable to heal others, I guess you feel useful, whitch again gives you some energy and purpose.

 

[Armadillo]

I don't think that life is constant suffering, at least mine hasn't been that way.
I was doing kinda good not too long ago, I enjoyed being alive, I was happy, I felt joy, I had hopes, life seemed worth living and existence better than non-existence.

But it gradually all went to shit, and despite the fact that I have been overall living a life that was good for the majority of the time, the last few years of suffering just make everything not worthy.

So no... I wouldn't do this all over again, I'd prefer never to be born.

 

[sadak_the_wanderer]

I'm going to go with a big no on this one. Most of my push towards death has come from some fixed factors which were not random. Neither accidents nor my choices figure largely into the situation. I can only assume that my life would be the way it is now, more or less, on a "re-roll."

 

[VincentValentine]

For me, it's not even external conditions that are bothering me. This is all in my head. Give me anyone elses' head (!) and this could all be fine

No, for me it's about the external conditions.
And the behavior of others.

If I had enough money so that I never had to study or work for 1 second, and never had to interact or talk to evil, and unkind and unpleasant people, I wouldn't ctb.
But of course this is not the reality.

That's interesting how we all have different kinds of problems and reasons for wanting out of this life. My problems are more like Daystavro's. If it wasn't for people making life so shit, I might actually stick around.

 

[longingforrelease]

I would say yes, for sure. Though I've been in enormous pain for 2 years, that pain is the result of having lost a wonderful life that lasted for years. So if I decide to leave, I will on that occasion try to focus on the the good years, the things I accomplished, my daughter, etc.

 

[Cold]

Never.

 

[StillWaiting]

Nope. I don't want to be trapped in the middle of being afraid to alive and wanting to die.

 

[bag.of.cats]

No, unless under my terms.

 

[Trashcan]

Absolutely not. One of my siblings got miscarried and I would gladly trade places with them.

 

[Hanging on]

Definitely wouldn't of been the fastest sperm if I've had know what would of come lol

 

[Marc]

If love, wealth and health were guaranteed it would be pretty great. We could all unite against those pesky mosquitos.

 

[Ravaene]

Knowing what I know about my life... I'm not sure. There were a few moments worth all the suffering and I'm glad I could experience them, but if I just never existed, I would never feel so much pain in my life. Answer is hard for me and I don't think I can decide. But considering all the pros and cons, I'm closer to choose not existing at all.

 

[Jane Doe]

Never. Life is suffering