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noname223

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Aug 18, 2020
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Today I was so fucking hard triggered. A German youtube channel made a video about assisted suicide. The moment I saw it I knew it will make me insanely mad. Yeah I was right. The channel is funded by the German people. I already have watched a video from this channel group. They said: Assisted suicide is a difficult ethical question but for sure never let mentally ill people get it. I don't want to read any comments in favor of that. There is no discussion about that. (I paraphrased it)

Yeah I expected the same when I saw the video. And damn I was so right. It kind of ruined my day or at least evening. I was so angry I shaked with my whole body. I can get so fucking triggered by this ignorance.
Yeah the video was a about a new assisted suicide law. The German highest court made a very liberal ruling 2020. Though there is room for interpretation. For me and for many others it says yeah also mentally ill can get assisted suicide if they are rational/self-determined about it. In my opinion the court is very explicit about that. Though most (but not all) media outlets demonize assisted suicide for mentally ill people. In this video which I watched they said more or less the following: The ruling excludes mentally ill people for example depressive people because they can never be rational or self-determined. This is is not how I interpret the ruling. They acted like this was a fact. Though it is not true as far as I know. (I am not an expert but I read a lot about it.)

It is up to interpetation. And I have once read an article of a Swiss news media which criticized the German media for reinterpretating the ruling. They said the ruling was clearly very liberal. And the way how they act paternalistically goes against the nature of ruling. I fully agree on that. At the moment assisted suicide is vastly unregulated. Maybe no compromise would be the best to happen. 2 of 3 drafts sound horrible.

I checked it it is a fact that assisted suicide organizations also allow mentally ill to get assisted suicide. The regulation is quite strict though. But the biggest obstacle for me is the money. It costs several thousand euros. I could never afford that. My dad even threatened me to stop giving me money in case I contacted an assisted suicide organization. Moreover I had 2 psychosis I think they would argue I could never be rational.

This is why I am absolutely dependent on this forum. First of it is emotional support to cope with my suicidal thoughts and existential pain. But I won't go into details now. I am forced to drastic means if I want to get the freedom the constitutional court gave me. (in my opinion) I feel like I have no other option. I am cornered. Even if I could prove that my wish to die is persistent (I renew my patient's provision for that purpose yearly) many people would like to reject me that right. If I want to die I have to die like a criminal. Having assisted suicide instead (and with that an official way) would comfort me a lot. I think this could ease my pain a lot. Maybe I could really die in peace then. Though I don't have much hope that they will grant me that last wish.
 
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Seeking_Peace

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May 18, 2022
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Can D ship to you? I thought of going the assisted way but not worth all the trouble and expense.
 
befree

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Mar 22, 2022
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Ok. What are you going to do now ? Are you looking for the right method for you or are you considering VAD ? There is also a association/organization in Germany, that is very liberal. It´s not impossible to get VAD with mental illness. But the whole procedure is more complicated, takes longer and costs more. An independent psychiatrist must confirm, that you are judgemental.
 
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noname223

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I am still fighting. It is obvious that my life will end with suicide. I still try to fight though. It is a complex situation. I won't dig that deep. But there are two scenarios: I get a new psychosis and extreme psychosomatic pain again then I probably kill me with my prefered method. I have 1-2 in mind. I don't want to talk about it openly for now. But I know what is available.
My parents could ruin my plans. It could get pretty difficult.

But there is also the second scenario. I will end in poverty especially when my parents are dead. This could take a long time. I am good at escapism and running away from my problems. But I know there will come a day when also this has to end. I hope assisted suicide gets a liberal law till that. Though I don't have much hope.

After all the first scenario is more likely. It could get really dramatic. I have one method here at home. But it is not my prefered one.

I try not to get a new psychosis. This takes a lot of effort. Yeah but I am pretyy anxious in case I get one.
 
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ge0rge

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Jul 29, 2018
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wo hast du das Video her? ich möchte es mir selber anschauen
 
befree

befree

Time to do more enjoyable things _____Goodbye_____
Mar 22, 2022
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"I have one method here at home. But it is not my prefered one." May I ask which method it is ?
 
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noname223

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Aug 18, 2020
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wo hast du das Video her? ich möchte es mir selber anschauen
It is from the channel: "DIE DA OBEN"
"I have one method here at home. But it is not my prefered one." May I ask which method it is ?
Currently I am quite paranoid concerning this forum. I am too scared to say it openly...
 
FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
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To me it is unfair to deny people who are suffering the option of a peaceful exit. I would also be very comforted if I had the option of assisted suicide, it would be a huge relief. It is just horrifying how people have to resort to painful/risky methods. It would probably make life more bearable for many people knowing they could have a guaranteed way out, where they could tell others in advance about their plans.
 
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