Help full suspension hanging with 5mm wide nylon rope

[shineboy2k15taliban]

hangmans noose on one end and probably a cow hitch or bowline knot on the other to anchor the rope. last time i checked i weigh 41 kg but lets just say 50 kg just to be very sure because it was about half a year ago and i probably gained a little more weight. i'm good with tying things so its safe to say the anchor point will be very secure. will i ctb this way?

 

[JesiBel]

I don't recommend using a hangman knot for your neck (full suspension) but rather a noose knot.

5 mm rope is too thin..

 

[shineboy2k15taliban]

I don't recommend using a hangman knot for your neck (full suspension) but rather a noose knot.

why noose knot and not hangman's? i've searched it up and it seems to be looser and less secure than hangmans knot, which is especially dangerous for thin ropes like 5mm

5 mm rope is too thin..

agreed but unfortunately its the only one ive been able to get my hands on right now. still, isnt the likelihood of it snapping pretty low? especially since it would be a suspension hanging and not a dro

 

[Phhi49]

Should be obvious that indeed as JesiBel says, 5mm is not thick enough.
That's at best a 50/50 chance on success and a 100% on a whole lot of pain from the wire stringing into your skin, even at 41kg. I'm not experienced in the matter, just seems commonsense to me. Cutting up a sweater/bedsheet and twisting it into rope or twisting the 5mm wire into a thicker wire untill it becomes something more secure, with atleast some cloth covering it then would be my choice.

 

[shineboy2k15taliban]

Should be obvious that indeed as JesiBel says, 5mm is not thick enough.
That's at best a 50/50 chance on success and a 100% on a whole lot of pain from the wire stringing into your skin, even at 41kg. I'm not experienced in the matter, just seems commonsense to me. Cutting up a sweater/bedsheet and twisting it into rope or twisting the 5mm wire into a thicker wire untill it becomes something more secure, with atleast some cloth covering it then would be my choice.

then how would it work with partial hanging? would it be any better? im aware 5mm is too thin but its the thickest rope i could find from all the local stores around me :( and i am desperate

 

[JesiBel]

why noose knot and not hangman's? i've searched it up and it seems to be looser and less secure than hangmans knot, which is especially dangerous for thin ropes like 5mm



agreed but unfortunately its the only one ive been able to get my hands on right now. still, isnt the likelihood of it snapping pretty low? especially since it would be a suspension hanging and not a dro

Hangman knot, is used for drop hanging.

Noose knot, is tightened by applying your weight, which is good for compressing your carotids. It can't be undone, so there's no escape. (you can add a stopper knot for more security)



I wouldn't use such a thin rope. While it will dig deep into your neck, the area it will compress is quite small. It won't be very pleasant.

 

[Phhi49]

then how would it work with partial hanging? would it be any better? im aware 5mm is too thin but its the thickest rope i could find from all the local stores around me :( and i am desperate

I'm not knowledgeable about partial hanging.
I just know i wouldn't do so with thin wire.
I would one way or another produce thicker rope out of cloth that wire or anything i could get my hands on and twist it into better rope as seen in the next video at 2:10minute.

 

[Worndown]

5mm has strength concerns. It will not be comfortable in any way.
12mm is a good diameter. Dock line is great, strong and offers some comfort.

Do not use this because it is all you can get. Wait a bit and get what you can use successfully.

 

[shineboy2k15taliban]

I wouldn't use such a thin rope. While it will dig deep into your neck, the area it will compress is quite small. It won't be very pleasant.

does that also apply to partial hanging? or is it different?

i see, would this work with a t shirt?

 

[Phhi49]

i see, would this work with a t shirt?

A quick google search (making rope out of a shirt) gave me this.
Though i would make the rope even thicker then they do in this vid.

 

[Worndown]

Partial is just that, less weight on your rope. It also has less pressure to compress arteries and leaves the door open for SI to come in and save you.

 

[JesiBel]

does that also apply to partial hanging? or is it different?



i see, would this work with a t shirt?

Yes. The death mechanism is the same in full and partial.

Partial is more complicated, since you won't be able to use your full weight because your body is somehow in contact with the ground.

 

[shineboy2k15taliban]

5mm has strength concerns. It will not be comfortable in any way.
12mm is a good diameter. Dock line is great, strong and offers some comfort.

Do not use this because it is all you can get. Wait a bit and get what you can use successfully.

yea i guess i'll just wait it out until i get a chance to find a better rope somehow. its not like i need to ctb right now, im just chilling for a few more months.

at first, i thought the only issue with a rope this thin was the low chance of it snapping midattempt, and i was willing to risk that. but if comfort is also affected? yea, no thanks. id rather deal with things a bit longer and hopefully get something thicker. the whole reason i chose hanging in the first place was because its supposed to be one of the more comfortable and clean ways to go, and from what you guys are saying, i come to the conclusion that the thinness of this rope defeats the purpose for me

It also has less pressure to compress arteries and leaves the door open for SI to come in and save you.

and also yesterday i saw people saying that if you place the rope in just the right spot on your neck during a partial hanging, you can still breathe as it knocks you out and kills you. is that only possible with partial hanging or does it apply to full hanging as well?

 

[NonEssential]

leaves the door open for SI to come in and save you.

The reason I want to go for full suspension.

 

[JesiBel]

and also yesterday i saw people saying that if you place the rope in just the right spot on your neck during a partial hanging, you can still breathe as it knocks you out and kills you. is that only possible with partial hanging or does it apply to full hanging as well?

There is no possibility of breathing or swallowing once the knot is fully tightened around your neck.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

A hangmans noose works very well, they use it in Iran for short and no drop hangings. There is a little more friction in a hangmans noose, the more coils, the more friction. You can double the 5 mm rope if it is long enaugh. You have to throw the rope over a vertical beam and connect the ends for example with a simple offset overhand bend. This way you get one big loop. You can use this big loop to very simple make a noose.

 

[shineboy2k15taliban]

A hangmans noose works very well, they use it in Iran for short and no drop hangings. There is a little more friction in a hangmans noose, the more coils, the more friction. You can double the 5 mm rope if it is long enaugh. You have to throw the rope over a vertical beam and connect the ends for example with a simple offset overhand bend. This way you get one big loop. You can use this big loop to very simple make a noose.

thank you!