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breachswapper

breachswapper

WUBEMAXXING
Sep 24, 2025
5
i hate that there's nothing i could possibly say to convince a more sane person that i'm better off dead. i hate how it's ok to put a physically suffering person out of their misery but a mentally suffering person is just "going through a tough time" and needs to be saved. i hate how when i'm gone people are gonna act like it's some kind of tragedy instead of being happy for me. anyone else got this feeling?
 
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Parasitism

Parasitism

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May 27, 2025
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Yes i relate to what you say. Politely rotting in private, for decades, is the kinder act according to society.
 
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mysticatedwine

mysticatedwine

rotting autistic sun
Mar 4, 2025
149
pretty sure everyone here shares this feeling. it's what leads most of us here (on the suicide discussion part at least), rather than some other support group with a toxic positivity and no other alternative than "trying to get better".

there's a good balance here. no toxic positivity nor toxic negativity. people don't "advertise" suicide nor do they try to get others to commit suicide. similarly, they don't force others to get better no matter what. this forum is the closest i've found to a REAL support group that respect its members integrity to some extent
 
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breachswapper

breachswapper

WUBEMAXXING
Sep 24, 2025
5
Yes i relate to what you say. Politely rotting in private, for decades, is the kinder act according to society.
oh i don't even wanna CONSIDER decades dude.
pretty sure everyone here shares this feeling. it's what leads most of us here (on the suicide discussion part at least), rather than some other support group with a toxic positivity and no other alternative than "trying to get better".

there's a good balance here. no toxic positivity nor toxic negativity. people don't "advertise" suicide nor do they try to get others to commit suicide. similarly, they don't force others to get better no matter what. this forum is the closest i've found to a REAL support group that respect its members integrity to some extent
maybe my last part was kinda a dumb question, i just got here eheh

this place seems so nice though, never have i ever seen so many people who actually believe in the right to die all in one place
 
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mysticatedwine

mysticatedwine

rotting autistic sun
Mar 4, 2025
149
oh i don't even wanna CONSIDER decades dude.

maybe my last part was kinda a dumb question, i just got here eheh

this place seems so nice though, never have i ever seen so many people who actually believe in the right to die all in one place
not a dumb question :) im sure a lot of people have stuff to say about this, or personal experiences to share, etc
 
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breachswapper

breachswapper

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Sep 24, 2025
5
not a dumb question :) im sure a lot of people have stuff to say about this, or personal experiences to share, etc
alright, glad to hear (⁠✿⁠^⁠‿⁠^⁠)
 
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Dejected 55

Dejected 55

Enlightened
May 7, 2025
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i hate that there's nothing i could possibly say to convince a more sane person that i'm better off dead. i hate how it's ok to put a physically suffering person out of their misery but a mentally suffering person is just "going through a tough time" and needs to be saved. i hate how when i'm gone people are gonna act like it's some kind of tragedy instead of being happy for me. anyone else got this feeling?
It would at least be a little different, a little more sincere IF they actually wanted to save you. But they don't. Not really. If they wanted to save you, they would listen. Most of us aren't in need of major things. Simple things are often what most of us are lacking... it's just we are lacking them all the time, and no one notices, and when we scream our needs, no one cares. We are laughed at, mocked, told to "suck it up" or "it will get better" and they have a parade and a concert to "celebrate" suicide awareness while they don't want to look at your face, don't want to think about you, can't consider actually helping you in any meaningful way. They just want to say they helped, say they tried. When people ask them, they will always say... "I tried everything" when they tried nothing. When you're gone they will "honor" you in some thing they want to do anyway that really has nothing to do with you, and might even offend your sensibilities... but they don't care.
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
45,170
I really understand, I see so much cruelty in how the suffering and torture of existing is seen as to force and prolong no matter what, there should be the option to cease existing painlessly, it truly is such a horrific anti-suicide world where there is no acceptance towards the right to die.
 
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qewpie

qewpie

body so broken
Aug 3, 2025
54
society doesnt even let physically suffering people get out of misery though?? there are so many people with chronic pain who would probably take MAID if they were allowed
 
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CutePrincess

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Sep 16, 2025
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i hate that there's nothing i could possibly say to convince a more sane person that i'm better off dead. i hate how it's ok to put a physically suffering person out of their misery but a mentally suffering person is just "going through a tough time" and needs to be saved. i hate how when i'm gone people are gonna act like it's some kind of tragedy instead of being happy for me. anyone else got this feeling?
I also feel like it's stupid that people will see suicade like a tragedy when you struggle with major mental illness. My mental illness is a tragedy, suicide is what put an end to this.
 
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breachswapper

breachswapper

WUBEMAXXING
Sep 24, 2025
5
society doesnt even let physically suffering people get out of misery though?? there are so many people with chronic pain who would probably take MAID if they were allowed
you're right i was just typing that with people who do qualify in mind and i definitely could've worded that part better.,, i think a better way to put it is like. why is there some kind of threshold for how much pain someone has to experience before they're allowed to die. like if you aren't suffering hard enough then people just tell you to keep pushing through you get what i'm saying
 
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qewpie

qewpie

body so broken
Aug 3, 2025
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you're right i was just typing that with people who do qualify in mind and i definitely could've worded that part better.,, i think a better way to put it is like. why is there some kind of threshold for how much pain someone has to experience before they're allowed to die. like if you aren't suffering hard enough then people just tell you to keep pushing through you get what i'm saying
yeah. no one understands until they go through something similar.
 
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VoidButterfly

VoidButterfly

Flitterby
May 17, 2025
125
People who think it's never the answer don't really understand the question.
 
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starboy2k

starboy2k

the only thing I can do right….is be a burden
May 21, 2025
275
i genuinely stopped giving a shit what other people think ESPECIALLY normies. their beliefs are rooted in dogshit, and they thrive from pushing unnecessary respectability politics and garnering moral brownie points. fuck what people think about you before and after your death. your feelings will never matter to them.
 
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Worndown

Worndown

Illuminated
Mar 21, 2019
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Humans have thoughts and often believe their thoughts are the only solution.
Experience gives us perspective.
 
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whyyyyyyyy

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May 26, 2020
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i hate that there's nothing i could possibly say to convince a more sane person that i'm better off dead. i hate how it's ok to put a physically suffering person out of their misery but a mentally suffering person is just "going through a tough time" and needs to be saved. i hate how when i'm gone people are gonna act like it's some kind of tragedy instead of being happy for me. anyone else got this feeling?
Suicide is just one of those ideas that will never receive validation. It's taboo to affirm it, even if many people actually do sympathize, because if we made it culturally acceptable to suicide, people would over do it. Therefore, it's set up so that if you want to kill yourself, you have to be driven enough to do it in spite of finding near zero affirmation from mainstream culture. You have to want to do it in spite of receiving no confirmation that your feelings are well place.

It is actually true sometimes, that somebody's life can be saved and is worth saving, and they really are just going through a tough time. Maybe this would take more effort than just committing suicide. Let's say suicide was totally acceptable and provided just as easily as any basic mental health support. Wouldn't that be problematic? Everybody would just kill themselves all day. Then what?

Another cultural reason for never encouraging suicide, even though most would agree it's probably a fine idea in some cases, is that people don't want responsibility. Let's say people were just recommending suicide on the regular and we accepted this socially. Imagine the complications this might cause? Think about the problems of people killing themselves just because someone told them to. The suicide will kind of have occurred because of the person who suggested, instead of just by the person who wanted to die. The family of that person might be furious at the person who suggested suicide, because they believed he was still able to be saved. Also, if you recommend it to people, when the person does it, it's no longer entirely their own move, it becomes partially influenced by someone else, which corrupts the integrity of suicide, which should really be a deeply personal judgment call that only the individual can make for themselves, from their own subjective perspective, standing in their own shoes. Anything else becomes questionable.

As a compromise between a full on open and compassionate stance towards suicide, which would be problematic, and the apparent general policy of making it a taboo, I believe, anecdotally, that people who care for each other drop subtle hints to individuals who are struggling, to lovingly nudge them toward it as a viable option, and that it's okay. But if it's not subtle, then it has too much risk of becoming a situation where it was another person's fault, and not just the individual's choice, so it's not good.

People shut up about suicide, say it's bad, because people will kill themselves anyway, might as well not add fuel to the flame and make it go out of control. It's like there's an unspoken barrier to entry for suicide. You have to want it badly enough to have the bravery to try it. If you have been brainwashed and made afraid to do it, then you must be able to overcome that programming if you'd like to die. Death is available. We don't have state-sanctioned suicide booths because we don't need them. Death is available, the silent barrier to entry is you have to pull it off without the help of the state. Maybe that's reasonable. Death is already an accessible thing, maybe we don't need to make it extra accessible, maybe it's accessible enough, since we can actively discourage it and not support it and it still happens. Suicide is still something to be avoided if possible, after all, right? It's not wrong, but it's not the ideal outcome. By all means kill yourself if you want, but that shouldn't be what we promote or want for most people. We want most people to be happy and make things work. So we provide mental health support to help people take coping to its limits, and let suicide happen on its own.

At a broader level- given that we are currently in the thing known as life, anti-life attitudes are naturally unpopular. It's just the inherent fact of the matter, like the sky is blue. When you're in life, it is fundamentally unlikely to find sympathy for any anti-life sentiment. Because the forces that brought life about, and are keeping it about at this moment, are strong. They're the forces behind this entire thing, life. So that something that goes against basically everything else... naturally esoteric.

You just have to get over it, it sucks to not feel validated, but you have got to believe your own feelings totally in spite what the world says. You want to be on that level of thinking if you want to kill yourself.

Take solace in this though- the urge to die is not some obscure thing. I'm pretty sure it's secretly a core part of the human condition. So core that it's there without needing to be actively encouraged. Millions of people living and dead would sympathize perfectly, I reckon, but they're just not talking about it. It's just not the thing to do. There's actually some pro-suicide sentiment out there, even in mainstream media if you look with an analytical eye, but it has to be hidden enough that there's plausible deniability that it was put there intentionally. There's little suggestions everywhere. But the dominant narrative when you're in life is... life. It is what it is
 

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