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- Dec 7, 2024
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About nine months ago I had a pretty severe suicidal crisis. I'm finally ready to talk about it. This is just one of my stories, and I don't need anyone to read it. I think being able to write about it as honestly as possible will be helpful.
I've struggled with pretty chronic suicidal ideation my entire life as a result of truly tragic, complex, and long-lasting child abuse. Maybe I will tell the story of that abuse another day, if anyone is interested.
I've also been in and out of therapy for this. Some therapists sucked. Some didn't. However, i was sort of in "denial" or "unaware" of how bad the abuse I experienced was. About six years ago, I randomly read `The Body Keeps the Score` after someone recommended it to me. I recognized a many trauma symptoms in myself because of the book. So, at the same time, and for the first time, I sought out a trauma-informed counselor and basically was like: was I abused badly? Was this severe? And the answer was "yes."
I worked with that counselor and was getting a lot better at being able to manage my moods, emotional flooding, the maladaptive behaviors that arise as a result of my emotional flooding, and my suicidal ideation. There was a time where I didn't even have any suicidal ideation at all. This went on from basically 2021-2023.
In 2023 I had to take care of a family member on hospice, which meant I had to move and quit therapy with the counselor who was helping. When the family member died and I moved back, that counselor had left the practice. I never prioritized finding another because I really was just like...mostly okay. No real mood issues, no sleep disturbances, no suicidal ideation.
Then, in 2024, the CEO of my company (a dying startup) started trying to get my department to work "harder" by which he meant put in "more hours" to help the business "win". Except ... he didn't have any clear business goals. He just wanted my department to produce a bunch of stuff as quickly as possible and see if he could sell any of it. It was like the business equivalent of throwing spaghetti at the wall to see what stuck. I got caught up in this and was working like 80 hours a week and was exhausted. During that same year, I was raped and really struggled from it.
Around the same time, a friend of mine in the same industry was looking for a new job. I knew I didn't want to be in this job with the condescending, poor-planning CEO. The friend and I decided to work together to prepare for interviews. We did this while I was recovering from the rape and 80 hour work weeks. She knew about the work, but not about the rape. I was doing my best to keep it all together, but some things were slipping through and some of my mood issues, maladaptive emotional flooding behaviors, and suicidal ideation came back. The friend could tell, maybe not all of it, but continued to meet with me and rely on me for preparing for interviews.
After about six months of prep, she got a great job offer. I kept getting rejected, which just made me feel worse. When she got her great job offer she thanked me for helping her prep, said she couldn't have done it without me, and called me, and i quote, an "invaluable friend". In response, I then told her that I would be sad to lose her friendship when she moves on to a new job, since our study sessions were coming to an end (nota bene: we had met at work, but had become real friends, or so I thought, based on what she said). She replied that she felt the same way as me and that she wanted to, and I quote, "keep [me] in [her] constellation of closest friends." Then, to make it clear, she named me, my literal name, alongside the names of her two closest friends from others parts of her life. I thought we were real friends based on this and so many other things. But, as I kept getting rejected and began to struggle with mental health more and more as a result of the rejections, she began to push me away.
Finally, in December, I got rejected from a job in the final round of an interview. I had gotten evaluated as "yes" from all the interviewers except the final one. This rejection triggered me to active suicidal ideation. I reached out to the friend I had prepped with. I told her "I don't think I'm going to be okay this time." I asked her to talk with me so I could stay calm and safe. I also was already not in my right mind. I kept also saying things like: "your life would be better without me, wouldn't it? I hate myself." She did talk with me for a bit...and then just disappeared.
I began to decline rapidly over a period of hours and my panic increased to the point of totally consuming me by the end of the day. No matter what I did, I simply couldn't calm myself down. I reached out for helping; I texted a lot of people, this friend included. I begging someone, anyone for help. No one was responding. Finally, the person who raped me did, and brought me to a bar and I began drinking. This did not help my mental state (obviously; alcohol almost never does). I began to impulsively plan a way to kill myself (I tried to duct tape a trash bag around my neck, which doesn't work, btw). The friend finally responded around the same time I was doing this and said: "hey I was at a concert? are you okay?" I begged her to help me. Literally "please help. please. please help me." I told her I was going to hurt myself. She suggested I go to the hospital (which, as an aside, if you don't know...ERs are bad for mental health crises and will likely involuntarily detain you for up to 72 hours, take away your agency/freedoms, and there's a chance you end up in jail). After that she just...disappeared. Entirely.
I wasn't successful in CTB. A week later she sent me an e-mail saying she was "not in a position to offer me the kind of friendship that you need[ed]" and that she "wish[ed] me peace on [my] journey of healing." I felt AWFUL. And abandoned. And betrayed. And alone. At this point, I reached out to another friend, one who also knew I was struggling and with whom I had been friends for 15 years. This second person is someone who had called and texted me constantly while going through a divorce from an abusive husband and while I won't say I was perfect (who ever is?) I did my best to make myself available to her. I said to her: "Hey we're still friends right?" and she said "haha yes of course we're friends." Then I explained what happened. I didn't feel good but everything seemed "normal". Then, four hours later, this second friend said "hey actually I wasn't being truthful earlier. in therapy i've been processing what happened between us your senior year of college and i need some space. i wish you nothing but the best." and then blocked me everywhere. What happened our senior year of college is that I started dating someone and stopped being available to give this friend rides places and go to her choir concerts.
These past nine months are probably the most alone I have ever felt. And I have felt truly alone before. What has changed is that I am now certain that no one is there for me, that no one cherishes me or values me. My family of origin has never been supportful. I don't have friends either.
We are nine months out from this and....while I'm not actively in a suicidal crisis anymore, I have become hard and bitter. Angry.
The lesson I learned from this is that it doesn't matter how good you are or how generous you are with those you love: even the tiniest bit of suicidal ideation and pain will disqualify you from love and support. What I learned is that there is no space to witness hurt or pain in another person. What i learned is that friendship is a convenience, a transaction, and as soon as you, as a human being, are ever so slightly inconvenient you are then disqualified from friendship. What I learned is that you should never try to be good to anyone, because no one will be good to you.
I am not actively suicidal right now, but I can't imagine that my suicidal ideation goes away. I find myself wondering what happens next time I feel this way. Who will I reach out to? Likely no one. And it seems that me reaching out to no one is what those who claimed to love me wanted.
Thank you for giving me a space to get this off my chest. I appreciate it.
I've struggled with pretty chronic suicidal ideation my entire life as a result of truly tragic, complex, and long-lasting child abuse. Maybe I will tell the story of that abuse another day, if anyone is interested.
I've also been in and out of therapy for this. Some therapists sucked. Some didn't. However, i was sort of in "denial" or "unaware" of how bad the abuse I experienced was. About six years ago, I randomly read `The Body Keeps the Score` after someone recommended it to me. I recognized a many trauma symptoms in myself because of the book. So, at the same time, and for the first time, I sought out a trauma-informed counselor and basically was like: was I abused badly? Was this severe? And the answer was "yes."
I worked with that counselor and was getting a lot better at being able to manage my moods, emotional flooding, the maladaptive behaviors that arise as a result of my emotional flooding, and my suicidal ideation. There was a time where I didn't even have any suicidal ideation at all. This went on from basically 2021-2023.
In 2023 I had to take care of a family member on hospice, which meant I had to move and quit therapy with the counselor who was helping. When the family member died and I moved back, that counselor had left the practice. I never prioritized finding another because I really was just like...mostly okay. No real mood issues, no sleep disturbances, no suicidal ideation.
Then, in 2024, the CEO of my company (a dying startup) started trying to get my department to work "harder" by which he meant put in "more hours" to help the business "win". Except ... he didn't have any clear business goals. He just wanted my department to produce a bunch of stuff as quickly as possible and see if he could sell any of it. It was like the business equivalent of throwing spaghetti at the wall to see what stuck. I got caught up in this and was working like 80 hours a week and was exhausted. During that same year, I was raped and really struggled from it.
Around the same time, a friend of mine in the same industry was looking for a new job. I knew I didn't want to be in this job with the condescending, poor-planning CEO. The friend and I decided to work together to prepare for interviews. We did this while I was recovering from the rape and 80 hour work weeks. She knew about the work, but not about the rape. I was doing my best to keep it all together, but some things were slipping through and some of my mood issues, maladaptive emotional flooding behaviors, and suicidal ideation came back. The friend could tell, maybe not all of it, but continued to meet with me and rely on me for preparing for interviews.
After about six months of prep, she got a great job offer. I kept getting rejected, which just made me feel worse. When she got her great job offer she thanked me for helping her prep, said she couldn't have done it without me, and called me, and i quote, an "invaluable friend". In response, I then told her that I would be sad to lose her friendship when she moves on to a new job, since our study sessions were coming to an end (nota bene: we had met at work, but had become real friends, or so I thought, based on what she said). She replied that she felt the same way as me and that she wanted to, and I quote, "keep [me] in [her] constellation of closest friends." Then, to make it clear, she named me, my literal name, alongside the names of her two closest friends from others parts of her life. I thought we were real friends based on this and so many other things. But, as I kept getting rejected and began to struggle with mental health more and more as a result of the rejections, she began to push me away.
Finally, in December, I got rejected from a job in the final round of an interview. I had gotten evaluated as "yes" from all the interviewers except the final one. This rejection triggered me to active suicidal ideation. I reached out to the friend I had prepped with. I told her "I don't think I'm going to be okay this time." I asked her to talk with me so I could stay calm and safe. I also was already not in my right mind. I kept also saying things like: "your life would be better without me, wouldn't it? I hate myself." She did talk with me for a bit...and then just disappeared.
I began to decline rapidly over a period of hours and my panic increased to the point of totally consuming me by the end of the day. No matter what I did, I simply couldn't calm myself down. I reached out for helping; I texted a lot of people, this friend included. I begging someone, anyone for help. No one was responding. Finally, the person who raped me did, and brought me to a bar and I began drinking. This did not help my mental state (obviously; alcohol almost never does). I began to impulsively plan a way to kill myself (I tried to duct tape a trash bag around my neck, which doesn't work, btw). The friend finally responded around the same time I was doing this and said: "hey I was at a concert? are you okay?" I begged her to help me. Literally "please help. please. please help me." I told her I was going to hurt myself. She suggested I go to the hospital (which, as an aside, if you don't know...ERs are bad for mental health crises and will likely involuntarily detain you for up to 72 hours, take away your agency/freedoms, and there's a chance you end up in jail). After that she just...disappeared. Entirely.
I wasn't successful in CTB. A week later she sent me an e-mail saying she was "not in a position to offer me the kind of friendship that you need[ed]" and that she "wish[ed] me peace on [my] journey of healing." I felt AWFUL. And abandoned. And betrayed. And alone. At this point, I reached out to another friend, one who also knew I was struggling and with whom I had been friends for 15 years. This second person is someone who had called and texted me constantly while going through a divorce from an abusive husband and while I won't say I was perfect (who ever is?) I did my best to make myself available to her. I said to her: "Hey we're still friends right?" and she said "haha yes of course we're friends." Then I explained what happened. I didn't feel good but everything seemed "normal". Then, four hours later, this second friend said "hey actually I wasn't being truthful earlier. in therapy i've been processing what happened between us your senior year of college and i need some space. i wish you nothing but the best." and then blocked me everywhere. What happened our senior year of college is that I started dating someone and stopped being available to give this friend rides places and go to her choir concerts.
These past nine months are probably the most alone I have ever felt. And I have felt truly alone before. What has changed is that I am now certain that no one is there for me, that no one cherishes me or values me. My family of origin has never been supportful. I don't have friends either.
We are nine months out from this and....while I'm not actively in a suicidal crisis anymore, I have become hard and bitter. Angry.
The lesson I learned from this is that it doesn't matter how good you are or how generous you are with those you love: even the tiniest bit of suicidal ideation and pain will disqualify you from love and support. What I learned is that there is no space to witness hurt or pain in another person. What i learned is that friendship is a convenience, a transaction, and as soon as you, as a human being, are ever so slightly inconvenient you are then disqualified from friendship. What I learned is that you should never try to be good to anyone, because no one will be good to you.
I am not actively suicidal right now, but I can't imagine that my suicidal ideation goes away. I find myself wondering what happens next time I feel this way. Who will I reach out to? Likely no one. And it seems that me reaching out to no one is what those who claimed to love me wanted.
Thank you for giving me a space to get this off my chest. I appreciate it.
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