Venting Failed...

[Glitch]

Fucking SI
now currently sat in the hospital waiting for toxicology to come back with my blood test results....
I'm basically nodding in and out of consciousness and my poor husband has been awake the whole time we've been here and knowing him he won't sleep when we get home..
I feel guilty as fuck because he's gunna be knackered all day now...
One big fucked up mess...

 

[Blackjack]

What happened?

 

[RedAlert]

Well its a good thing you posted your feelings here Glitch and its nice to see you back.
I'm sorry things didn't go as planned. Try and get as much rest as possible in a comfortable setting and try to take it easy for now dear.

 

[Glitch]

What happened?

Had my zopiclone stash at the ready (made sure I did my research and had the lethal dose ready), added in some quitiapine and temazepam for good measure.
Got a quarter of the way through when and the panic set in...
Thankfully I've got another prescription for more Z so I've got another shot at this

 

[Dawn0071111]

How did you aviod getting 51/50 and held at hospital?

 

[BPD_LE]

How did you aviod getting 51/50 and held at hospital?

Probably UK. They don't do that here. Quick chat with a psych nurse and you're on your way home.

 

[Stan]

Probably UK. They don't do that here.

Is that true? I thought they can section you after an attempt. But with very few beds available in the UK I guess they just turf you out for that reason.

 

[BPD_LE]

Is that true? I thought they can section you after an attempt. But with very few beds available in the UK I guess they just turf you out for that reason.

I mean technically they can if you say I'm leaving here to try again. But like you said, no beds, no staff, no time. Just maybe a follow up call by cmht in a few days. It's actually very difficult to get in a psych ward unless you're psychotic. Then they've got the whole home treatment thing.

 

[Stan]

I mean technically they can if you say I'm leaving here to try again. But like you said, no beds, no staff, no time. Just maybe a follow up call by cmht in a few days. It's actually very difficult to get in a psych ward unless you're psychotic. Then they've got the whole home treatment thing.

As I said before in other posts, no point having this big fanfare of 'mental health awareness' without the backup

 

[Neville1]

But with very few beds available in the UK I guess they just turf you out for that reason.

I would much prefer this to US treatment. Where's the evidence that some days or weeks of involuntary confinement is helpful for someone with MDD and suicidal ideation? On top of trauma of stay, US patient is likely to incur large financial burden. Assuming decent insurance, 3000 USD deductible, 20% copay, patient's share of average stay cost of 10,000 could be 4,400.

 

[Yorkshire91]

Probably UK. They don't do that here. Quick chat with a psych nurse and you're on your way home.

They had me in some suite with a number cant remember what they called it, spoke to 2 drs whilst still off my nut on diazepam having taking 40 with a bottle of whiskey and they sectioned me was still out of it as they transferred me

 

[BPD_LE]

I would much prefer this to US treatment. Where's the evidence that some days or weeks of involuntary confinement is helpful for someone with MDD and suicidal ideation? Worse in US, patient is likely to incur large financial burden. Assuming decent insurance, 3000 USD deductible, 20% copay, patient's share of average stay cost of 10,000 could be 4,400.

There's no doubt that the eagerness to commit the suicidal population in the US is down to making money, And here in the UK, their reluctance to do it is about saving money. Neither system is focused on what's in the best interest of the individual.

They had me in some suite with a number cant remember what they called it, spoke to 2 drs whilst still off my nut on diazepam having taking 40 with a bottle of whiskey and they sectioned me was still out of it as they transferred me

That doesn't surprise me. I think you need 2 doctors and 1 social worker to agree to section you, although you do get offered voluntary admission first.

 

[Yorkshire91]

There's no doubt that the eagerness to commit the suicidal population in the US is down to making money, And here in the UK, their reluctance to do it is about saving money. Neither system is focused on what's in the best interest of the individual.

That doesn't surprise me. I think you need 2 doctors and 1 social worker to agree to section you, although you do get offered voluntary admission first.

Was told I spoke to 2 drs although I've told the home treatment team people who told me this I dont even remember being there until I was being transferred its just a blank. It's a joke they can't help they just offer pills and ask if you're safe

 

[BPD_LE]

Was told I spoke to 2 drs although I've told the home treatment team people who told me this I dont even remember being there until I was being transferred its just a blank. It's a joke they can't help they just offer pills and ask if you're safe

Were you in home treatment before they sectioned you? I turned down home treatment the other week. Don't want strangers in my house daily.

 

[Yorkshire91]

Were you in home treatment before they sectioned you? I turned down home treatment the other week. Don't want strangers in my house daily.

I'd been discharged from them, I crash on my sisters couch so I go see them at the hospital rather than have them come here. I'd rather not see them at all just gotta play their game till I can find peace.

 

[Winter_Flower]

I'm from the UK, took 65 toperimate, went to hospital, was there for four hours while they waited for blood results. Had a 'little' chat with psych and sent home with the promise of follow up from the crisis team, that never happened x I've even asked to be admitted before and denied. I'm now at the stage of doing this again (this one was three years ago). And if I fail, which I Hope not, especially now I know what to take, I'm pretty sure this will be the same process x

 

[welshie84]

Probably UK. They don't do that here. Quick chat with a psych nurse and you're on your way home.

This is what happened to me. Took an over dose and they waited for my heart rhythm to stabilise, gave me a ten min chat with a psych nurse and discharged me

 

[Yorkshire91]

I'm from the UK, took 65 toperimate, went to hospital, was there for four hours while they waited for blood results. Had a 'little' chat with psych and sent home with the promise of follow up from the crisis team, that never happened x I've even asked to be admitted before and denied. I'm now at the stage of doing this again (this one was three years ago). And if I fail, which I Hope not, especially now I know what to take, I'm pretty sure this will be the same process x

If you are found they could possibly section you or if they think you are unable to keep yourself safe and have active plans to ctb

 

[BPD_LE]

If you are found they could possibly section you or if they think you are unable to keep yourself safe and have active plans to ctb

They know I am actively suicidal, know I'm going to hang myself, have the rope, have practiced, they just don't know when or where. I was offered home treatment which I declined, then was told that it was full anyway. It's so sad for the people who really want help. I don't, so I'm not bothered. Just find it somewhat amusing compared to how things happen in the US. I could literally go to the psych ward with a noose around my neck and I bet I'd be out in 2 hours.

 

[Yorkshire91]

They know I am actively suicidal, know I'm going to hang myself, have the rope, have practiced, they just don't know when or where. I was offered home treatment which I declined, then was told that it was full anyway. It's so sad for the people who really want help. I don't, so I'm not bothered. Just find it somewhat amusing compared to how things happen in the US. I could literally go to the psych ward with a noose around my neck and I bet I'd be out in 2 hours.

Wow and there meant to be there to help you and try prevent us committing suicide. I was told by home treatment if I had an active plan I would 1st be offered voluntary then they would proceed forward with whatever it is they do if I refused. This was their response to me telling them I was scared to open up incase I was sectioned again.

 

[Rachel74]

They know I am actively suicidal, know I'm going to hang myself, have the rope, have practiced, they just don't know when or where. I was offered home treatment which I declined, then was told that it was full anyway. It's so sad for the people who really want help. I don't, so I'm not bothered. Just find it somewhat amusing compared to how things happen in the US. I could literally go to the psych ward with a noose around my neck and I bet I'd be out in 2 hours.

That's dear old Blighty for you

 

[BPD_LE]

Wow and there meant to be there to help you and try prevent us committing suicide. I was told by home treatment if I had an active plan I would 1st be offered voluntary then they would proceed forward with whatever it is they do if I refused. This was their response to me telling them I was scared to open up incase I was sectioned again.

I think you were one of the lucky (or unlucky!) ones. They have no money to offer an effective service anymore.

 

[Yorkshire91]

I think you were one of the lucky (or unlucky!) ones. They have no money to offer an effective service anymore.

I dont feel lucky, it was my choice and they had no right to take it from me.

 

[Rachel74]

I think you were one of the lucky (or unlucky!) ones. They have no money to offer an effective service anymore.

I thought it was only bad in the southwest of England but it's bad all over the U.K. for mental health. They throw everything they have at other facilities but nothing for MH

 

[GeorgeJL]

Had my zopiclone stash at the ready (made sure I did my research and had the lethal dose ready), added in some quitiapine and temazepam for good measure.
Got a quarter of the way through when and the panic set in...
Thankfully I've got another prescription for more Z so I've got another shot at this

Don't do this same method again. Your asking for another failure.

 

[BPD_LE]

I dont feel lucky, it was my choice and they had no right to take it from me.

That's what I mean, if you don't want help your unlucky. If you do, then you're lucky. I agree with you. They should concentrate on the ones that want help and leave us be.

 

[Yorkshire91]

I thought it was only bad in the southwest of England but it's bad all over the U.K. for mental health. They throw everything they have at other facilities but nothing for MH

They make a big thing about how they care, empty gestures bla bla bla then they forget because it's not something physical they can see or fix

That's what I mean, if you don't want help your unlucky. If you do, then you're lucky. I agree with you. They should concentrate on the ones that want help and leave us be.

According to them it's a good thing there's nobody out there to help me in the way I want or need you're right they should leave us be and stop pretending. They're wasting time and resources that could be used on people who actually want to live.

 

[BPD_LE]

Like @Stan said earlier, what's the point of making a big issue of ending mental health stigma and encouraging people to seek help, when they don't have the services to deal with the fall out! Life's a joke.

 

[woxihuanni]

Like @Stan said earlier, what's the point of making a big issue of ending mental health stigma and encouraging people to seek help, when they don't have the services to deal with the fall out! Life's a joke.

I mean it's telling when the loudest platitude spouters are the royal life-long-teenagers. Turns my stomach.

 

[Yorkshire91]

Exactly!! They have no idea at all.