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[FauxEmotions]

Someone asked if suicide is a coward move or a brave move and I gotta say, the results were SAD to read. Most the answers were a coward move because of the people they are leaving behind, trauma caused to those around them, "man up" and face your problems. It's so sad, society seems to care about causing pain to everyone except the individual in the most pain. Like, if we are that worried about losing someone, why do we sweep mental illness/healthcare under the rug? Why do we immediately just label them as "crazy", "needy", "attention seeking" etc etc. Why choose to be ignorant until someone dies and then go on about how much they meant to us? Hug your loved ones today, reach out to that person who is acting differently all of a sudden. Fuck, the world is too dark.

 

[whyidon'tknow]

Yep, i'd say it is a product of living in the ME generation. People only care about something if and only when it really effects them. You tell someone you want to kill yourself and you get a response like "IM so sorry you are going through that" or "I would be so hurt if you died" smh

 

[barny]

I cant go on facebook anymore. hate people, hate their stupid opinions and judgement, and fakeness

 

[LogicalConclusion]

I've tried slowly reappearing on facebook after about a month. While I was gone, less than 5 people messaged me. I come back and try to gently bring up issues I'm dealing with and my friend steamrolls me with all of his problems. Then my best friend from that specific group doesn't even respond once we get anywhere below the surface. They don't care about my pain, not like I care for them. I've reached out to people that I know have been struggling and just...no one wants to talk to me. I'm just a burden. Thinking about deleting my account but I have to see how this confrontation with my friend goes first so I can figure out how to manage my affairs after ctb

 

[FauxEmotions]

It's crazy because I never really been one to reflect, think about life, evaluate anything... I'd just float from chapter to chapter in my life. It's beautiful that I finally am seeking knowledge, but the flip side of the coin is so fucking dark. Like, yes, I'm expanding my mind, but I'm also seeing nothing but pain, misery, selfishness, lack of care but the appearance of it being there. I should really delete my Facebook as well, it's just upsetting me more than anything lately. Luckily the weather has been nice so I've been out on my motorcycle more which is a nice palette cleanser. The unfortunate thing, I can't stay on it, so there's down time to let the darkness creep in. It's a terrible shame that we can be instantly connected to just about anyone, but we use it mostly for bad (trolling, shaming).
I hope you all find peace and find at least one individual who shows that unconditional love as a friend, lover or both according to your desires. Peace to you all.

 

[RainAndSadness]

I've visited Facebook 'support' groups in the past and most of them literally straight-up ban topics related to suicide. I never was active in any of them but people who talked about their struggles would usually receive comments containing empty pro-life platitudes with no helpful advice at all.

They're honestly terrible and I'd avoid them if you're looking for honest advice.

 

[deshper]

I'll never understand how people can look at suicide as a cowardly act, I think the people on this forum know more than anybody how much courage and serious determination is needed to suppress your survival instinct and take your own life. I mean, I guess the people who responded to that question could never understand if they've never been through it, but it's sad that the only thing people seem to be concerned about is what they will go through, not at all what the person was going through or what their quality of life was.

 

[Kjo]

The world is too dark... Unfortunately, those who don't experience suicide ideation don't understand it. It's a double edged sword - I would never want more people to experience this but it's so hard to know that they don't understand it at all....

 

[not_a_robot]

Apologies to OP, but anyone still on Facebook is too dumb for me to concern myself with. I already know all of their opinions are stupid, I don't need it confirmed. Facebook is the fucking sewer of human intellect, even the creators admit that was their purpose.

 

[FauxEmotions]

I'll never understand how people can look at suicide as a cowardly act, I think the people on this forum know more than anybody how much courage and serious determination is needed to suppress your survival instinct and take your own life. I mean, I guess the people who responded to that question could never understand if they've never been through it, but it's sad that the only thing people seem to be concerned about is what they will go through, not at all what the person was going through or what their quality of life was.

Likewise, I mean everything else aside, it's an insanely brave act to leave the known for the unknown especially when it comes to life and death.

Apologies to OP, but anyone still on Facebook is too dumb for me to concern myself with. I already know all of their opinions are stupid, I don't need it confirmed. Facebook is the fucking sewer of human intellect, even the creators admit that was their purpose.

No apologies necessary, we all learn at our own pace. I'm a late bloomer haha

 

[not_a_robot]

The world is too dark... Unfortunately, those who don't experience suicide ideation don't understand it. It's a double edged sword - I would never want more people to experience this but it's so hard to know that they don't understand it at all....

One needn't be suicidal to conceive of empathy. One would merely require a functional heart and mind, neither of which are to be found on fucking Fakebook.
How is that site not dead yet?

 

[Kjo]

One needn't be suicidal to conceive of empathy. One would merely require a functional heart and mind, neither of which are to be found on fucking Fakebook.
How is that site not dead yet?

I think much like common sense, it's not always innate in humanity but it can be taught or learned over time.

 

[Oblivion Lover]

I think much like common sense, it's not always innate in humanity but it can be taught or learned over time.

Nah, 99% of people can't be taught how to think by themselves instead of thinking what the society around them thinks. It's too difficult for them to do that.

 

[Empty Smile]

Suicide is the cowards way out.

Is it? Where is the door for the brave people's way out? That's the one I need.

Permanent solution to a temporary problem.

It is? So tell me how you know it's temporary if I haven't told you my problem?

Think of the pain you will cause others.

Think of the pain you'll cause me if you force me to face another day.

Why are you so selfish?

Because you selfish normal people pretend to care, when in reality, you don't give a flying fuck.

Oh, you're just having a bad day.

I've been having a bad day for the last 30+ years, and you're just now seeing it?


FUCK NORMAL PEOPLE....

 

[FauxEmotions]

Suicide is the cowards way out.

Is it? Where is the door for the brave people's way out? That's the one I need.

Permanent solution to a temporary problem.

It is? So tell me how you know it's temporary if I haven't told you my problem?

Think of the pain you will cause others.

Think of the pain you'll cause me if you force me to face another day.

Why are you so selfish?

Because you selfish normal people pretend to care, when in reality, you don't give a flying fuck.

Oh, you're just having a bad day.

I've been having a bad day for the last 30+ years, and you're just now seeing it?


FUCK NORMAL PEOPLE....

Perfectly put

 

[Kjo]

Suicide is the cowards way out.

Is it? Where is the door for the brave people's way out? That's the one I need.

Permanent solution to a temporary problem.

It is? So tell me how you know it's temporary if I haven't told you my problem?

So much yes.

 

[vonvonwantpeace]

I quit facebook, I had many judgmental christian relatives on fb.

 

[esclava]

I dumped Fakebook as a new year's resolution and never looked back. 1% less bs in my life.

 

[woxihuanni]

Fuck them. To be honest, nobody is devastated by anybody's death. When we're leaving, we're worried about our loved ones. But they will go on. If not, the worst they can suffer is what we are already suffering.

For some of us, the one dearest to us wants us dead anyway.
I've been reading accounts of patients in a terrible state and how doctors kept them alive. And I go, you know, it is not even child abuse that is the worst problem in the world. It is this. It is this. How do we raise doctors to be torturers? Worse than torturers. You know if random psycho tortures you, they are getting something out of it. You are valuable as a toy at least. This is even worse.

 

[Futility]

Facebook is such a weird place, all the group admins are narcissistic, the people judge you, my blocked list is longer than my friend's list just because I have boobs.
For being a place supposed to connect us all, it's made me feel like a complete alien in the long run, if that's supposed to be the norm

 

[Aunt Paula]

Someone asked if suicide is a coward move or a brave move and I gotta say, the results were SAD to read. Most the answers were a coward move because of the people they are leaving behind, trauma caused to those around them, "man up" and face your problems. It's so sad, society seems to care about causing pain to everyone except the individual in the most pain. Like, if we are that worried about losing someone, why do we sweep mental illness/healthcare under the rug? Why do we immediately just label them as "crazy", "needy", "attention seeking" etc etc. Why choose to be ignorant until someone dies and then go on about how much they meant to us? Hug your loved ones today, reach out to that person who is acting differently all of a sudden. Fuck, the world is too dark.

Humans are social animals. Hindsight is 20/20, but when people begins to isolate themselves, that's a pretty good warning sign that they are pushing us away so they'll eventually no longer care about any hurt they might leave behind. Yeah, I should have seen all the warning signs. Too little too late I guess. I suppose you could say that I was too busy caring for my elderly parents, my special needs daughter and trying to put food on the table. Just curious, when I am just holding it together myself, how would you expect me to "reach out" to that person? You say that makes me selfish if I do not? Dammit, I am still so angry.

 

[Empty Smile]

Humans are social animals. Hindsight is 20/20, but when people begins to isolate themselves, that's a pretty good warning sign that they are pushing us away so they'll eventually no longer care about any hurt they might leave behind. Yeah, I should have seen all the warning signs. Too little too late I guess. I suppose you could say that I was too busy caring for my elderly parents, my special needs daughter and trying to put food on the table. Just curious, when I am just holding it together myself, how would you expect me to "reach out" to that person? You say that makes me selfish if I do not? Dammit, I am still so angry.

Of course, if we don't reach out, that's our fault too for not seeking help. No matter what we do, we can't win.

 

[Rachel74]

The last Facebook support group I joined I got banned. I don't suffer fools gladly and when someone posted they were going to kill them selves and take her pets with her because the hairdresser cut her hair wrong I sort of flipped.
Every snowflake turned against me saying her life meant more than a dog. Told them all to fuck off and got banned.

 

[Aunt Paula]

The last Facebook support group I joined I got banned. I don't suffer fools gladly and when someone posted they were going to kill them selves and take her pets with her because the hairdresser cut her hair wrong I sort of flipped.
Every snowflake turned against me saying her life meant more than a dog. Told them all to fuck off and got banned.

Snowflakes... yeah... I do have to wonder, are there more suicides in the snowflake generation because our current society has made it harder for them to cope with life? In days gone by we had face to face community. Now we have social media and isolation. Generations ago, people raised big families in small houses. We had front porches and kids knew the neighbors like aunts and uncles. Today it's all about isolation, staying indoors to play video games and go online instead of playing outside. When I went to university, my parents dropped me off and left. Today, parents are sticking around for the weekend and help their kids pick out their courses! Have a problem with your landlord while at university? The parents fight your battles! The kids find that they can't cope. Resiliency, I do believe that is the key to ending this epidemic. Summer of 2018 I knew that's what my nephew needed. I knew it, he resembled these "snowflakes" I kept hearing about, he wasn't going to stand a chance without more resiliency. I tried, I really did. But how far to go without "interfering"? He was 30 years old and demanded his independence. He had his own way of thinking which conflicted with my personal philosophies. Who was I to force him into my way of thinking?

 

[Rachel74]

Snowflakes... yeah... I do have to wonder, are there more suicides in the snowflake generation because our current society has made it harder for them to cope with life? In days gone by we had face to face community. Now we have social media and isolation. Generations ago, people raised big families in small houses. We had front porches and kids knew the neighbors like aunts and uncles. Today it's all about isolation, staying indoors to play video games and go online instead of playing outside. When I went to university, my parents dropped me off and left. Today, parents are sticking around for the weekend and help their kids pick out their courses! Have a problem with your landlord while at university? The parents fight your battles! The kids find that they can't cope. Resiliency, I do believe that is the key to ending this epidemic. Summer of 2018 I knew that's what my nephew needed. I knew it, he resembled these "snowflakes" I kept hearing about, he wasn't going to stand a chance without more resiliency. I tried, I really did. But how far to go without "interfering"? He was 30 years old and demanded his independence. He had his own way of thinking which conflicted with my personal philosophies. Who was I to force him into my way of thinking?

I there are now days. I've seen people cry on rate your plate on Facebook because someone dissed their cooking. I'm like FFS!

 

[bluesky1972-2019]

Why do people feel like they need to live their lives on Facebook? I've deleted everything off there.

 

[FauxEmotions]

Why do people feel like they need to live their lives on Facebook? I've deleted everything off there.

I need to. Respect to ya.

 

[White_Room293]

I haven't used social media in its traditional sense in years. I only use twitter for porno and then I use internet forums for entertainment and more porn. I don't see how anyone on this forum could benefit from social media except to meet up with other people if you wanted.

 

[Painpleasure]

I agree that Facebook is largely a dead platform to me. I wonder how it's managed to maintain it's value in the stock market given waning interest and involvement in the platform, especially among the youth.