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I just set up an online consultation to get prescribed propranolol.
I suffer from severe social anxiety, so decided to give this a try. Has anybody had any good/bad experiences with this in relation to social anxiety?
 
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I made a post a while back, did a short trial of a few days. Worked pretty well, was able to pull jokes on a police officer who harassed us without the usual physical anxiety symptoms (shaky voice, heartbeat and so on). But when I quit after three days I woke up with a racing heart at night and had insomnia for two days.

I know not very scientific... for me the side effects were too much, but I would definitely use it sporadically, for interviews and so on.
 
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I made a post a while back, did a short trial of a few days. Worked pretty well, was able to pull jokes on a police officer who harassed us without the usual physical anxiety symptoms (shaky voice, heartbeat and so on). But when I quit after three days I woke up with a racing heart at night and had insomnia for two days.

I know not very scientific... for me the side effects were too much, but I would definitely use it sporadically, for interviews and so on.
Thank you for your input. That sucks about the side effects when you stopped using it. Were there any negative side effects while you were actually using it?

I have a big work trip coming up in a few weeks, which always are my most anxious moments (involving big meetings, public speaking etc), so hopefully I'll get it sometime next week so I can test it before I go.

I guess I need to lay off the alcohol too...

By any chance have you also tried sertraline? That's another thing I learned you can get prescribed online. If the propranolol doesn't work out I might give that a try
 
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Thank you for your input. That sucks about the side effects when you stopped using it. Were there any negative side effects while you were actually using it?

I have a big work trip coming up in a few weeks, which always are my most anxious moments (involving big meetings, public speaking etc), so hopefully I'll get it sometime next week so I can test it before I go.

I guess I need to lay off the alcohol too...

By any chance have you also tried sertraline? That's another thing I learned you can get prescribed online. If the propranolol doesn't work out I might give that a try
Definitely give it a try. It would be perfect for public speaking I imagine...

The side effects while taking it where definitely noticable, like a certain heaviness and fatigue, but nothing too extreme. I also felt a little too unaffected emotionally in conversations and so on, like a certain numbness. But all very mild, neglectable, just nothing I would like to experience all day every day.

Nope sorry, I'm not big on pharma drugs. I stick to the basics (coffee, alcohol, nicotine) and avoid medication like the plague, since I used to take asthma medication as a child which robbed me of most of my childhood because of the side effects (migraines).

Is sertraline something GABAergic like benzos?
 
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Definitely give it a try. It would be perfect for public speaking I imagine...

The side effects while taking it where definitely noticable, like a certain heaviness and fatigue, but nothing too extreme. I also felt a little too unaffected emotionally in conversations and so on, like a certain numbness. But all very mild, neglectable, just nothing I would like to experience all day every day.

Nope sorry, I'm not big on pharma drugs. I stick to the basics (coffee, alcohol, nicotine) and avoid medication like the plague, since I used to take asthma medication as a child which robbed me of most of my childhood because of the side effects (migraines).

Is sertraline something GABAergic like benzos?
I think I'm ok with being numb for a while haha - we shall see, though. I'll update this thread once I've tried it a few times.

I'm generally not a fan of pharma drugs either. Only thing I've really taken before is some kind of SSRI (I forget which one) when I was younger, but that didn't last long because it just made me feel like shit.

Sertraline is an SSRI as well, but apparently it's the one most commonly used for anxiety...hell, it may even be the one I already used...so probably not ideal lol.

Went down a rabbit hole on google yesterday after posting this thread, and apparently there's research showing that a lot of social anxiety can be linked to low testosterone...now I'm considering getting tested for that. (I don't think I have low testosterone, but kinda hoping I do, as apparently it's like a light switch of switching off anxiety once you start taking testosterone shots)
 
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I think I'm ok with being numb for a while haha - we shall see, though. I'll update this thread once I've tried it a few times.

I'm generally not a fan of pharma drugs either. Only thing I've really taken before is some kind of SSRI (I forget which one) when I was younger, but that didn't last long because it just made me feel like shit.

Sertraline is an SSRI as well, but apparently it's the one most commonly used for anxiety...hell, it may even be the one I already used...so probably not ideal lol.

Went down a rabbit hole on google yesterday after posting this thread, and apparently there's research showing that a lot of social anxiety can be linked to low testosterone...now I'm considering getting tested for that. (I don't think I have low testosterone, but kinda hoping I do, as apparently it's like a light switch of switching off anxiety once you start taking testosterone shots)
Have you thought about getting testosterone from the DN before? I always wanted to try that, at least before I ctb. I mean sure, give it a shot if it's from the doctor even better. It seemed to "help" my dad back in the day when his son died (before I was born). Of course it would have been better for him to process it somehow, whatever that means, but it was something to get him back on track, all the bodybuilding stuff and getting ripped.
 
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Propranolol helps with physical anxiety symptoms like pounding/racing heart, shaking, sweating. So you feel calmer. But you're probably still going to have anxiety thoughts and worries. It's kind of a weird effect.

I'm prescribed that along with some other things for anxiety, but benzos do a better job for me. Still, I bet you'll find it at least a little helpful. Definitely worth trying.
 
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it zoned me out to the point i didn't care about anything, gr8 drug would pop again, i probably wouldn't use it though if i did care in hindsight like for a job interview !
 
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it zoned me out to the point i didn't care about anything, gr8 drug would pop again, i probably wouldn't use it though if i did care in hindsight like for a job interview !
How man mgs did you take
 
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I didn't use it myself, however my groupmate had social anxiety and Propranolol was helping him much during presentations.
 
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Have you thought about getting testosterone from the DN before? I always wanted to try that, at least before I ctb. I mean sure, give it a shot if it's from the doctor even better. It seemed to "help" my dad back in the day when his son died (before I was born). Of course it would have been better for him to process it somehow, whatever that means, but it was something to get him back on track, all the bodybuilding stuff and getting ripped.
Today I ordered a combined test for testosterone, cortisol, DHEA, & estradiol. Never tried to obtain testosterone before, but really hoping my test ends up showing I have low t, so that I know it's worth trying some. Fingers crossed!
 
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Used it for 2 months or so.
Made me sleepy and drowsy right after taking it.
Can't tell you much about it's impacts on social anxiety as i took it during the summer, when i was mostly at home all the time and didn't have any stressful social interactions. I was also only taking a small dose of 10mg.
But from the time i took it, all it seemed to do was make me really drowsy and tired.
So there was no benefit from taking it.
If 10mg was enough to make me want to just lay down and sleep, i wonder what would happen if i took the 40mg i was originally prescribed by the first doctor i went to.... Maybe i would just collapse to the ground???
I suggest you try it for yourself and see how you react to it.
Meds can work wonders for some people and not at all for others.
 
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Today I ordered a combined test for testosterone, cortisol, DHEA, & estradiol. Never tried to obtain testosterone before, but really hoping my test ends up showing I have low t, so that I know it's worth trying some. Fingers crossed!
Wanted to do these tests but still didn't put hands to fulfill this wish. Would be good to check after use of antidepressants and SSRI's
 
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Thanks everyone - I'll give the propranolol a try when I get it and post my findings.

I'll also update on the hormone test
 
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Was on Propranolol for about two years and it didn't help my social anxiety at all. It did help the physical manifestations of anxiety though like racing heart rate.
 
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Amanita Muscaria mushroom for social anxiety could help some at low doses.
 
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Phenibut is amazing for anxiety - should be used no more than twice a week to avoid addiction. I also have Etifoxine on order which apparently is like a non-addictive Benzo. Both of these are from a Russian Pharma company who are highly rated on TrustPilot. Some of their pharma (inRussia) was first developed for astronauts!
 
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Phenibut is amazing for anxiety - should be used no more than twice a week to avoid addiction. I also have Etifoxine on order which apparently is like a non-addictive Benzo. Both of these are from a Russian Pharma company who are highly rated on TrustPilot. Some of their pharma (inRussia) was first developed for astronauts!
Thank you - etifoxine sounds interesting, might order myself a little sample.
Let me know how it is when you get it pls!

Phenibut scares me lol so haven't tried it
 
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@LittleJem I ended up buying some etifoxine, thanks for the tip! Still let me know how it works out for you though!
 
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It's good for me if I have to go outside to a crowded place, as it will stop a trigger from sending me into a full on flashback most of the time. I think my social phobia is intertwined with my PTSD now, so it won't help me socialize, just stop me from feeling the urge to flip over a table and flee a crowded restaurant, etc.

It used to be handed out for performance anxiety(the stage fright kind), so it will stop your body from reacting to your mental anxiety in a physical manner, which might somewhat slow down a ruminating mind. It won't directly lower your social inhibitions like benzos do for most people and make you feel social and bubbly.

It's actually in my mind a good choice for actively re-training yourself how to react and engage in social settings, in conjunction with CBT, as you won't have your body and mind to retrain at once. Just don't rely on them everyday as the rebound from daily usage will make your physical symptoms ramp up quite severely depending on the dosage.
@LittleJem I ended up buying some etifoxine, thanks for the tip! Still let me know how it works out for you though!

Etifoxine is a good start; it feels like a weak benzo, without any of the memory loss or coordination deficits. In European trials I believe it was preferred to lorazepam(Ativan), so it might give you just the boost of social confidence you need, without any 'clean drunken' feelings.
 
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@SneekUponIt - thank you for the useful info. My propranolol arrived yesterday, so I will be trying it this week probably.
I am actually more excited to try the Etifoxine (should be here in a couple of days). I've never done benzos so hoping that will work in my favor in some way...maybe more noticeable effects?
 
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So now I have both propranolol and etifoxine (stresam), and of course when I want to try them out there's nothing particularly anxiety-inducing going on lol...

Just to see if I noticed anything at all I took a small dose (10mg) of propranolol yesterday - no noticeable effects at all, but like I said there was nothing anxiety-inducing happening at the time.

10 mins ago I have taken a small dose (50mg) of etifoxine to see if anything noticeable happens.
 
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Quite impressed with Etifoxine after using it today (100mg) before something that would usually make me anxious
 
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I just set up an online consultation to get prescribed propranolol.
I suffer from severe social anxiety, so decided to give this a try. Has anybody had any good/bad experiences with this in relation to social anxiety?
I use propanalol. It helps me with physical symptoms of GAD and panic attacks! It's a beta blocker and anti hypertensive. It slows heart rate down, and stops me from sweating, so during panic attacks, my physical symptoms aren't as debilitating. It does help me somewhat with anxiety. I also use diazepam for my racing thoughts.
 
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I had great results from propranolol. I work in local government, so I often had to speak in front of the elected officials. I only took it before meetings. It didn't make my anxiety go away; it just seemed to calm down the shaky voice and the jitters (for lack of a better term). My psychiatrist told me it was the only medicine he had ever taken that he prescribed to his patients. He used it in med school, and said it worked really well for him.
 
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Phenibut is amazing for anxiety - should be used no more than twice a week to avoid addiction. I also have Etifoxine on order which apparently is like a non-addictive Benzo. Both of these are from a Russian Pharma company who are highly rated on TrustPilot. Some of their pharma (inRussia) was first developed for astronauts!
Is phenibut GABAergic ?
 
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ive tried Propanolol 10 mg 3 times since the 1st dose which was a major success and it hasnt worked since :'(

why is it with err'thing good in life the 1st time you take it its the best thing ever, like tea in the morning, then the next cuppa of the day isnt half as good then the next then the next ... still trying to create the magic of the first 1
 
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Try 20mg or 30. 10 is a really low dose
 
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So my first real life test didn't work out too good.
Had to give a presentation at work and decided to go with etifoxine as I had noticed I had previously felt less anxious when trying it. Took 100mg a few hours before in preparation , and about an hour before my presentation I felt myself getting really anxious knowing what was coming, so took another 100mg.

About 30 mins before my presentation I realized it was really gonna have no effect, so dropped 20mg of propranolol (probably not good to take together but not sure), nearly had a full blown panic attack giving my presentation... back to the drawing board lol. I think I'll try a large dose of just propranolol next time.

I'm also still wanting to try hormone replacement, as I got my (saliva) test results back and I am on the low end of normal for testosterone and estradiol and extremely high (double the normal level) for DHEA, but of course with coronavirus going on I am unable to get a dr appointment
 
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