Discussion Everybody's woke about mental illness until symptoms become inconvenient

[anopenwound]

I feel like we're trapped in a nightmare. The type of pain mental illness brings can be framed as justification, as evasiveness, as refusal to engage, as being lazy, non-compliant, a dickhead. It's like people are not processing words when you say you want to die. That you can't keep doing this. It reads as a nuisance. Every struggle that comes with it is a nuisance, it's carrying intention, it's just being a bad person. Even if they say they get it they proceed as treating you as if you're not affected by those symptoms. They expect you to still function.
I thought we were doing better than this. I thought being open about this would bring people to try handle things with care. It doesn't.

It's one of the many reasons why I don't want to keep living. This is incredibly cruel. If this is living I want no part in it.

 

[fadedghost]

I feel like we're trapped in a nightmare. The type of pain mental illness brings can be framed as justification, as evasiveness, as refusal to engage, as being lazy, non-compliant, a dickhead. It's like people are not processing words when you say you want to die. That you can't keep doing this. It reads as a nuisance. Every struggle that comes with it is a nuisance, it's carrying intention, it's just being a bad person. Even if they say they get it they proceed as treating you as if you're not affected by those symptoms. They expect you to still function.
I thought we were doing better than this. I thought being open about this would bring people to try handle things with care. It doesn't.

It's one of the many reasons why I don't want to keep living. This is incredibly cruel. If this is living I want no part in it.

Yep, mental health awareness is entirely about making normal people feel better and giving themselves a pat on the back with the goal to get all weird people on psychotropic drugs and locked up or managed by a psychiatrist so that normal people don't have to deal or think about weird people.

 

[anopenwound]

Yep, mental health awareness is entirely about making normal people feel better and giving themselves a pat on the back with the goal to get all weird people on psychotropic drugs and locked up or managed by a psychiatrist so that normal people don't have to deal or think about weird people.

It's like, if you keep on getting worse, it can't be because you're ill, 'cause everybody's doing the right thing when it comes to taking care of you. They're talking, which means you're not listening. They're telling you what to do, which means that you don't wanna do it. They're caring, which means you're not. You don't. It's insane. I'm trying. I keep on saying I'm tired and it doesn't register. I'm being dramatic. I'm tired. I'm fucking tired. I want someone to believe me when I say it 'cause I am. I don't understand what's so difficult to comprehend. I don't want anything to do with anybody anymore.

 

[TAW122]

Yeah I definitely see this IRL, especially with how much society (wherever they are, be it at the workplace, streets, or anything) promotes 'mental health awareness!' and all the slogans, but the moment it becomes inconvenient, uncomfortable (especially hinting at CTB), or anything it becomes hostility and benevolent paternalism, 'We MuSt PrEvEnT SuIcIdE!' or any of the old tired cliche platitudes, and more... it's frustrating for sure.

In the end, at least what I deduced from decades of sentience (hopefully not much longer and I would check out sooner than later) is that people don't really give a shit about the "problems, reasons, or anything" and they are more bothered about being inconvenienced or having their 'world view' shattered by things that they go to great lengths to prevent CTB at all costs.

 

[anopenwound]

Yeah I definitely see this IRL, especially with how much society (wherever they are, be it at the workplace, streets, or anything) promotes 'mental health awareness!' and all the slogans, but the moment it becomes inconvenient, uncomfortable (especially hinting at CTB), or anything it becomes hostility and benevolent paternalism, 'We MuSt PrEvEnT SuIcIdE!' or any of the old tired cliche platitudes, and more... it's frustrating for sure.

In the end, at least what I deduced from decades of sentience (hopefully not much longer and I would check out sooner than later) is that people don't really give a shit about the "problems, reasons, or anything" and they are more bothered about being inconvenienced or having their 'world view' shattered by things that they go to great lengths to prevent CTB at all costs.

They're uncomfortable 'cause they can't explain why this isn't working. It's better to pin it on us. We made a choice to be bad, not to listen, not to fight.

Fine.
Whatever.

Just leave me alone.

 

[Life's not a comedy]

I'm seeing a lot of poltical and moral beliefs from people who lack real self-awareness and empathy seem to base their opinions on what is socially acceptable within their circle, that is, until those values are tested and begins to even slightly affect them personally or has the potential to. Then it might be worth a second thought. We're so focused on optics now and that projection takes precedent. Values and morals require work man. /s They're too intrusive and it's not like they're lucrative. /s
We're living in a warped reality and things are not as they seem. Optics take precedent over substance and actual work, so it's more than just disheartening to find out there's a false sense of security at every turn nowadays. Optical illusions aren't fun anymore, now they're just cruel. Good post.

 

[anopenwound]

I'm seeing a lot of poltical and moral beliefs from people who lack real self-awareness and empathy seem to base their opinions on what is socially acceptable within their circle, that is, until those values are tested and begins to even slightly affect them personally or has the potential to. Then it might be worth a second thought. We're so focused on optics now and that projection takes precedent. Values and morals require work man. /s They're too intrusive and it's not like they're lucrative. /s
We're living in a warped reality and things are not as they seem. Optics take precedent over substance and actual work, so it's more than just disheartening to find out there's a false sense of security at every turn nowadays. Optical illusions aren't fun anymore, now they're just cruel. Good post.

No joke, this is the most insightful thing I've read in a long while about the current state of things. You've put into words a concept I always tried to grasp at.

It's literally all optics. Our own feelings are based on optics. These type of thinking annihilated our capacity to let go and have compassion for others. It basically transformed the value itself into something that needs to be exercised so perfectly least we're all failing. We can't accept that failure 'cause then we're either bad or causing harm which is inexcusable. Even if the value itself is compassion, being compassionate to others, which would entail being compassionate towards ourselves and others even when we're not being fully compassionate. It's a feedback loop. We're stuck in our heads. We can't seem to meet the other. We're lonely, lost at sea, and we can't stop blaming each other for it, which is exactly what's driving us away. Why would I want to live like this. Everything good about life is lost in this void. If every single aspect of our humanity requires this level of scrutiny, where it's impossible to experience anything without some evaluation or judgement that is rooted in a sentimental idea of morality, then life isn't worth living. Then I don't want to live.