Everybody suckssss, people dont really care

[StrawberryRed]

I saw this tiktok of a 13 yr old boy with a pretty severe facial deformity. There was a considerable amount of comments saying that his parents should " let him go" or ig kill him because he wasnt sick in any other way. This really shocked me, if a 13 yr old decided to khs all these same people would be lined up to say how terrible and unnecessary it was. The only difference is the disability, how much people perceived this person to offer others. I've been trying not to think negatively but more and more everything just seems transactional. Nobody seems to really care about " inherent worth" or whatever. Friendships are all just about what you offer , if ur funny or smart enough or pretty enough. And nobody is just straight up about that, I'm so done with other people. Continuing with the disabilities thing, u can clearly see this with how people treat mental vs physical disabilities. They dont give a shit about suffering it's just about how much more they think u can give. A tiktok of a happy woman with no legs is flooded with comments about how they would have just killed themselves. But God forbid a physically healthy person says they want to end it. Now every life is precious. People view those with disabilities so sub human they dont think they should be able to decide if they live or die themselves, the only deciding factor is if u can still act, work, or pretend exactly like society want u too. Disabled children should be put out of their misery but depressed adults should be nursed and put back into the life they hate. This has kinda been a nonsensical rant but I'm just so sick of other people. People I know personally, people online, people in general. I cant stand even being around other people. Idk what to do, I hate how callous everybody seems to be. How closed off the world actually is. I dont want to be negative person but how cant I be when everything and everybody seems so fucked yk. ( can u tell I'm having friendship problems rn lmao).

 

[citrusrope]

A lot of people don't give a rat's ass about anyone who is deemed to be "useless" or a "burden" in their eyes. It is so so depressing. And also incredibly tone deaf of those who comment shit like "Oh if I were you I would have ended it all!"

I'm not saying I was a great friend or whatever, because honestly I get it if you don't want to be friends with someone who is mentally unwell, but IMO the fastest way I've found friends leave me was me not being "fun" or someone who is capable of being "normal."

It is bleak to think about, just how transactional people can be, and quite frankly disgusting how people treat those who are disabled. Like no, you do not get to decide whether or not a disabled person should want to live or not!!!!

 

[PlutonianRooster]

How people treat the vulnerable, and those they have power over, is among the truest reflections of their self.

I don't have a visible disability, but have persistent paranoia over the idea that others are looking at me and thinking "I'm glad that's not me," or "I would kill myself if that were me." It has contributed significantly to my suicidal thoughts - as has the transactional nature of the world that you describe.
I hurt for those who cannot have a safe mask to put up against the worst of society.

On one hand, I could say some online platforms are particularly heinous, and may be more skewed towards such awful behavior than reality. On the other, I could say that anonymity brings out what is merely shoved under the fraying rug of social norms. I'm not sure which to believe in more.

 

[steppenwolf]

I saw this tiktok of a 13 yr old boy with a pretty severe facial deformity. There was a considerable amount of comments saying that his parents should " let him go" or ig kill him because he wasnt sick in any other way.

Those people, like fascists, are a small minority who just love attention, whether they mean what they say in order to get it or not. The greater the outrage they can provoke, the more attention they get.

The majority of people simply don't care one way or another if someone has a disability. But authority ultimately falls to those people who recognize that no community can survive that does not carry those who are not able to carry themselves for whatever reason, _without placing any other condition upon the carriage._ That is what makes us civilized. That is why there are extensive statutes that are supposed to protect the rights of people with disabilities.

I don't have a visible disability, but have persistent paranoia over the idea that others are looking at me and thinking "I'm glad that's not me," or "I would kill myself if that were me."

This forum is the only place where I have ever encountered people (plural) who explicitly assert to me directly, that they would rather kill themselves than live alone in hardship and poverty as I have done for decades. And I'm fortunate enough to live in a rich country.

 

[bunny]

I used to mentor for the disabled. The amount of power tripping with the people in charge was astounding. Also, some of the disabled ones were bad eggs. It's almost like: Humans are all evil.

 

[StrawberryRed]

This forum is the only place where I have ever encountered people (plural) who explicitly assert to me directly, that they would rather kill themselves than live alone in hardship and poverty as I have done for decades. And I'm fortunate enough to live in a rich country.

I personally in real life have met people who have said things along those lines. Not to say your wrong but people like that definitely exist in real life and are more popular than u think. That's a reason people are always asking why someone kts. To see if their life was hard enough to warrent suicide.

 

[steppenwolf]

I personally in real life have met people who have said things along those lines. Not to say your wrong but people like that definitely exist in real life and are more popular than u think. That's a reason people are always asking why someone kts. To see if their life was hard enough to warrent suicide.

A hard life is relative. People - especially very young people - often take the suffering that falls to themselves as the worst suffering. A toddler stubs their toe, they fall to the ground sobbing and bawling in anguish. You or I stub our toe, maybe we say: 'Ouch'. A teenager on SaSu who wants to kts, because their online gaming partner whom they've never met blocked them in response to their romantic overtures, is convinced that their suffering is trauma, and demands that older people should respect it as such. And never mind someone in Gaza or Ukraine who has just lost their entire family and children and joy in living to a ballistic missile, yet will never be seen bleating about it here.

But it's difficult to have sympathy for people who apparently believe that their paper cut should be considered more traumatic than someone else's broken back. I swear to God, sometimes I log in here and I feel just like the first Red Army soldier into the Führerbunker.

 

[Blue Dream]

I saw this tiktok of a 13 yr old boy with a pretty severe facial deformity. There was a considerable amount of comments saying that his parents should " let him go" or ig kill him because he wasnt sick in any other way. This really shocked me, if a 13 yr old decided to khs all these same people would be lined up to say how terrible and unnecessary it was. The only difference is the disability, how much people perceived this person to offer others. I've been trying not to think negatively but more and more everything just seems transactional. Nobody seems to really care about " inherent worth" or whatever. Friendships are all just about what you offer , if ur funny or smart enough or pretty enough. And nobody is just straight up about that, I'm so done with other people. Continuing with the disabilities thing, u can clearly see this with how people treat mental vs physical disabilities. They dont give a shit about suffering it's just about how much more they think u can give. A tiktok of a happy woman with no legs is flooded with comments about how they would have just killed themselves. But God forbid a physically healthy person says they want to end it. Now every life is precious. People view those with disabilities so sub human they dont think they should be able to decide if they live or die themselves, the only deciding factor is if u can still act, work, or pretend exactly like society want u too. Disabled children should be put out of their misery but depressed adults should be nursed and put back into the life they hate. This has kinda been a nonsensical rant but I'm just so sick of other people. People I know personally, people online, people in general. I cant stand even being around other people. Idk what to do, I hate how callous everybody seems to be. How closed off the world actually is. I dont want to be negative person but how cant I be when everything and everybody seems so fucked yk. ( can u tell I'm having friendship problems rn lmao).

You seem to care, realistically what are the odds you're the only one in the entire planet who thinks this way?

It doesn't make sense to give up on the possibility of finding at least one other kindred spirit without having a honest try at searching for one.

 

[SchrodingerIsDed]

I saw this tiktok of a 13 yr old boy with a pretty severe facial deformity. There was a considerable amount of comments saying that his parents should " let him go" or ig kill him because he wasnt sick in any other way. This really shocked me, if a 13 yr old decided to khs all these same people would be lined up to say how terrible and unnecessary it was. The only difference is the disability, how much people perceived this person to offer others. I've been trying not to think negatively but more and more everything just seems transactional. Nobody seems to really care about " inherent worth" or whatever. Friendships are all just about what you offer , if ur funny or smart enough or pretty enough. And nobody is just straight up about that, I'm so done with other people. Continuing with the disabilities thing, u can clearly see this with how people treat mental vs physical disabilities. They dont give a shit about suffering it's just about how much more they think u can give. A tiktok of a happy woman with no legs is flooded with comments about how they would have just killed themselves. But God forbid a physically healthy person says they want to end it. Now every life is precious. People view those with disabilities so sub human they dont think they should be able to decide if they live or die themselves, the only deciding factor is if u can still act, work, or pretend exactly like society want u too. Disabled children should be put out of their misery but depressed adults should be nursed and put back into the life they hate. This has kinda been a nonsensical rant but I'm just so sick of other people. People I know personally, people online, people in general. I cant stand even being around other people. Idk what to do, I hate how callous everybody seems to be. How closed off the world actually is. I dont want to be negative person but how cant I be when everything and everybody seems so fucked yk. ( can u tell I'm having friendship problems rn lmao).

With things like this, if you want to get around them, you simply have to accept that this is the way things are. Accepting it means you acknowledge that is the reality, and you don't judge people for their judgements, because their judgements are simply natural to them. You don't get emotional about it, because it's simply expected and normal. You acknowledge the double standard, acknowledge most people believe that way, then find ways around their unilateral, ignorant belief structures.

There are people who care about suffering. That's why you see pro-lifers on here trying to convince people not to ctb. They care. I care. I don't want anyone to suffer or die. If I could just snap my fingers and make everyone okay, I would. Wouldn't you? It's not that we don't care, it's that it's so hard to do anything effectively, and we also have our own needs to take care of, which keeps us preoccupied a lot of the time.

As for what you see in these comments, you also have to be careful of your own biases. You're seeing what you want to see or what you're afraid to see. The reality is always mixed. People are not all "disabled people should die," there are a lot of people who support them, maybe most. If you do an experiment and look for the good stuff, you'll find it.

But yeah. People are pretty fucked. But a lot of people will also agree on that. They understand, because many, maybe even most, feel the same way. But if everyone is feeling the same way, like people are shit, but no one is doing anything to help it becomes slightly less shitty, then it just stays fucked.

As Marilyn Manson said, "You live with apes man it's hard to be clean." And that's the truth. But, if you don't want to be exactly like them, it's going to be hard, because it's in your nature, too.