iamthezero

iamthezero

Fiend Queen
Jun 22, 2018
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anyone every had a suicidal friend? did you try to talk them out of it, successfully or not? ever call for a wellness check or just stayed out of it?
 
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worldexploder

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Sep 19, 2018
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I would never try to talk someone out of CTB. Wouldn't encourage them ether. If i thought a method was gonna fail I'd talk to them about it but ultimately how they want to die is up to them.

I wouldn't call for a wellness check on someone who was suicidal. Think of how embrassing it would be to have a policeman knock on your door and ask you a bunch of questions. Not an ideal situation.
 
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Shewaitsforme

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Sep 23, 2018
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I have mixed feelings about them. I get them from work as they had ti be made aware of my problems (i work for the NHS) twuce ive been taken to hospital on the ambulance by people i work with. So they do welfare checks on me as im off sick. I also had home visits from a community team plus calls from my GP. I feel embarrassed im still alive as im suicidal, i also hate to see the relief on their faces or hear it in their voice that ive not had the balls to just go do it. Little do they know its still very much on the cards, it will be in under a week, my girls birthday would have been 19th November so im waiting till then
 
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Help_Me

Help_Me

Gene pool mistake
Oct 21, 2018
516
Yes, I had a small goal before I die : I wanted to support at least 2 people who wanted to ctb. I mean help them to find their own reasons to live. And I did it last year. I was just near them whenever they wanted to talk about their life, problems, methods e.t.c. Both of them are happy now, they changed their mind and found their reasons to live. Don't get me wrong, I did not behave like one of those pro-life idiots, I was just helpful and always ready to support, whichever they choose life or death. My job is done and I can now ctb, because unlike them I've no reasons to live.
 
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BaconCheeseburger

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Aug 4, 2018
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Someone I went to school with posted one of those soppy 'goodbye' messages on FB, and me being an over dramatic 18 year old at the time called the police and gave them as many details as I could. He ended up in hospital getting his stomach pumped or something.

Don't know if I'd do the same now.
 
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Schopenhauer

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Oct 3, 2018
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I don't have any friends. I've no idea if the people I know in real life are suicidal or not. I've my own problems to deal with...
 
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Xerxes

Xerxes

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Nov 8, 2018
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I had a wellness check done. A therapist came to my door flanked by police officers and asked me to sign a Suicide Prevention form telling that I won't kill myself in 24 hrs. I signed it, laughed and slammed the door in their face.
 
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Schopenhauer

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Oct 3, 2018
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I had a wellness check done. A therapist came to my door flanked by police officers and asked me to sign a Suicide Prevention form telling that I won't kill myself in 24 hrs. I signed it, laughed and slammed the door in their face.

Gotta love bureaucracy. What is the penalty in case you do kill yourself? :D
 
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Xerxes

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Nov 8, 2018
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TiredHorse

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Nov 1, 2018
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I had a wellness check done. A therapist came to my door flanked by police officers and asked me to sign a Suicide Prevention form telling that I won't kill myself in 24 hrs. I signed it, laughed and slammed the door in their face.
That is freakin' hilarious. Bureaucracy, indeed.

I had an email service intercept an email where I spoke of ctb and call in a welfare check on me. A sheriff's deputy came to the door and asked the usual questions with obvious answers. They don't want to hear you're suicidal, so they accept the answers at face value.

I might once have called in a welfare check, long ago. Maybe. It would have depended on the friend and the situation. I did take one friend to have her stomach pumped, but that was only after she expressed regret, and I then took her into personal "custody" so that she wouldn't have to be locked up. The nurses at the hospital were the most condescending assholes I have ever met.

I don't think I'd ever do it now. I know too much about the system I would be flinging the friend into. I couldn't do that to a friend.
 
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Xerxes

Xerxes

Invisible
Nov 8, 2018
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Nowadays it's hard to get a welfare check unless you want your friend to do a suicide by cop. These fuckers are so trigger happy that they do the deed for you. I thought about it a few times as well.
 
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Sayo

Sayo

Not 2B
Aug 22, 2018
520
I once called a psychologist as instructed, told her I wasn't planning but just needed to talk through my intrusive ideation... couldn't finish speaking before I was told I was getting a wellness check.

Turns out a student from the residential area attacked a bus, so they sent three police cars on high alert. They marched my mother out and pinned her to the wall and interrogated me with a taser pointed at me, and eventually I was escorted to hospital with the cops trailing the ambulance... On the ambulance radio I could hear calls for heart attacks... I cried due to the frivolous waste of resources. I'm a cripple, for what it's worth. In retrospect I suppose it's the royal treatment!

I would consider requesting a wellness check only if I had solid indicators that that person had an ongoing wish to live and they were not at high risk for violence from the police—to be honest, pretty much all mentally ill people are, especially unstable ones. But a wellness check in the USA just resulted in yet another police shooting of a black man to illustrate what I mean. So in practical terms I can't see myself requesting an official one.
 
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TAW122

TAW122

Emissary of the right to die.
Aug 30, 2018
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Never and given the climate of society as it is now, it would only exacerbate the situation. Even assuming that if police weren't so rough and even if involuntary commitment/forced hospitalization isn't a thing, I still value one's right and choice to die so I wouldn't request a wellness check on someone, it's just an intrusive violation of freedom and privacy. However, if they are likely to harm other people other than just themselves, then that's a different story.
 
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kkatt

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Nov 12, 2018
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I did call for a wellness check
BUT it was pre-arranged
I knew to leave 24 hours from our lat contact before making the call
Didn't want the loved ones to find him and go through all that trauma-it's an image you'd never forget
 
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MAIO

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Apr 8, 2018
835
Someone I went to school with posted one of those soppy 'goodbye' messages on FB, and me being an over dramatic 18 year old at the time called the police and gave them as many details as I could. He ended up in hospital getting his stomach pumped or something.

Don't know if I'd do the same now.

A while ago after I was sleeping with a deadly poison close by at all times, a good friend of mine called me after overdosing on Asprin and antidepressants, saying she wanted to be taken seriously. (Not in those words) I went over to her house forced her to throw up multiple times and talked to her about how that overdose etc almost never works and if it does it's from liver failure. Talked to her for a long time etc. She is happy with a guy now. I am sure as soon as they break up she will go back to the same though.
 
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MAIO

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Apr 8, 2018
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Never and given the climate of society as it is now, it would only exacerbate the situation. Even assuming that if police weren't so rough and even if involuntary commitment/forced hospitalization isn't a thing, I still value one's right and choice to die so I wouldn't request a wellness check on someone, it's just an intrusive violation of freedom and privacy. However, if they are likely to harm other people other than just themselves, then that's a different story.

What if it's a really stupid method?
Nowadays it's hard to get a welfare check unless you want your friend to do a suicide by cop. These fuckers are so trigger happy that they do the deed for you. I thought about it a few times as well.

Don't forget if a gun is involved you may be charged with a felony. What a great country we live in

I had a wellness check done. A therapist came to my door flanked by police officers and asked me to sign a Suicide Prevention form telling that I won't kill myself in 24 hrs. I signed it, laughed and slammed the door in their face.

I never understood that at all. Some therapist will consider you an immediate risk if you do not sign one of those papers. On the other hand if you do you are good to go.
 
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Jen Erik

Jen Erik

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Oct 12, 2018
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anyone every had a suicidal friend? did you try to talk them out of it, successfully or not? ever call for a wellness check or just stayed out of it?
I'm in the United States and I would not call for a wellness check on someone I knew to be suicidal. They send the police in my area to do wellness checks, and it's just too dangerous nowadays. Just look at the news. Given how only the person who is suicidal knows if they are making a gesture in the name of asking for help or intending on completing their plan, it's too much of a gamble that a person making a gesture ends up harmed.

If I had reasonable belief to think they are making a gesture, I might phone an ambulance under the pretense that they are having medical emergency. But nothing more.
 
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EndofMyRope

EndofMyRope

Student
Oct 17, 2018
174
I've never called, but I've had a wellness check done on meat least once, maybe twice. The one time I'm certain of, 4 cop cars showed up at my house. Freaking FOUR! My brother was the one who called it in and being a cop himself, he knew exactly what to say to illicit that kind of response. Talk about being embarrassed in front of the neighbors...
 
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ArtsyDrawer

Enlightened
Nov 8, 2018
1,441
I talked some kids out of it.
They wanted to ctb over stupid shit. Grades, rejection from their crushes, pissing pants in gym class.
I mean, yeah, it sucks, there's pressure. It's stupid pressure, though. Grades are not ctb worthy imo. I'm not saying their pains are not valid, but those pains go away in fifteen minutes.
Let records state I don't go for cheesy guilt trip tactics, I just try and show them that a B- in math and a ruined pair of trousers is not the end of the world.
 
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Fucking loving it

Specialist
Sep 3, 2018
378
I've had 2 wellness checks on me. Bullshit from therapists. I never said I was going to kill myself soooo......
 
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pushka

pushka

Member
Mar 23, 2018
47
I have had a wellness check before when I didn't answer my phone to my brother for over a week last year, it's bullshit though as most people have said because they just want to hear the words that you're not going to kill yourself (regardless if it's genuine or not). It's merely a way for them to remove any sort of responsibility from themselves
 
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1234dave

Specialist
Oct 5, 2018
369
I talked some kids out of it.
They wanted to ctb over stupid shit. Grades, rejection from their crushes, pissing pants in gym class.
I mean, yeah, it sucks, there's pressure. It's stupid pressure, though. Grades are not ctb worthy imo. I'm not saying their pains are not valid, but those pains go away in fifteen minutes.
Let records state I don't go for cheesy guilt trip tactics, I just try and show them that a B- in math and a ruined pair of trousers is not the end of the world.
lol
 
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kkatt

Paragon
Nov 12, 2018
967
some fucker called the cops on me. They said "Why did you say you were going to kill yourself online?"
So I guess you have to be careful who you tell

As for calling on others. The first few times someone else says they're going to do it for real,there's a kinda instinctive response to want to save them. But you have to get past that and accept it's THEIR life and choice when to end it. It is hard though,so try not to be too mad at those who made that mistake before.

edit due to terrible spelling.
 
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