kuddelmuddel23
Expert Level Tree Farmer
- Jun 13, 2019
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Since there are discussions here that N may not work fast enough and questions about the correct dosage, I have researched it again. Because it is not for everyone an option to be undisturbed for 24 hours, or to drink 300ml N, since it is a relatively large amount. Maybe there is another way. I found this in the PPeH:
And there is this in the pdf Guide to Self Chosen and Humane Death
And there is of course the section about alcohol in the PPeH:
Is there any other information on this? Maybe someone has some other information that he/she could share.
Page 379
Some drugs enhance the effect of the Nembutal and can even be employed for that specific purpose. An example is the anti-convulsant Dilantin (phenytoin sodium).
Dilantin is useful as the drug dissolves in water forming an alkali solution which is compatible with the liquid Nembutal. Nembutal of uncertain quality can have its potency enhanced by dissolving 1 - 2 gm of phenytoin sodium in the solution before drinking. This process is shown in the accompanying video 'Making Nembutal even more effective'. Although Dilantin is a drug that is usually only available on prescription, it is relatively easily obtained through Internet mailing sources. It is not a drug of interest to the authorities.
Some drugs enhance the effect of the Nembutal and can even be employed for that specific purpose. An example is the anti-convulsant Dilantin (phenytoin sodium).
Dilantin is useful as the drug dissolves in water forming an alkali solution which is compatible with the liquid Nembutal. Nembutal of uncertain quality can have its potency enhanced by dissolving 1 - 2 gm of phenytoin sodium in the solution before drinking. This process is shown in the accompanying video 'Making Nembutal even more effective'. Although Dilantin is a drug that is usually only available on prescription, it is relatively easily obtained through Internet mailing sources. It is not a drug of interest to the authorities.
And there is this in the pdf Guide to Self Chosen and Humane Death
Page 46
For a self-chosen death, the barbiturates and glutethimide do not necessarily have to be combined with benzodiazepines. It is likely, though, that in combination with a benzodiazepine death will come faster. Up till now, little experience has been acquired on this. In case one uses Phenobarbital, the combination with 300 mg of a long-acting benzodiazepine is absolutely essential (see 2.2.7 for different options).
For a self-chosen death, the barbiturates and glutethimide do not necessarily have to be combined with benzodiazepines. It is likely, though, that in combination with a benzodiazepine death will come faster. Up till now, little experience has been acquired on this. In case one uses Phenobarbital, the combination with 300 mg of a long-acting benzodiazepine is absolutely essential (see 2.2.7 for different options).
Page 46 following
The authors do not see sound toxicological arguments for the combination of pentobarbital with a beta-blocker like propranolol, neither do
they have empirical data against using it. On clinical pharmaceutical grounds an overdose of beta-blocker may in some people induce cardiac fibrillation while in others it may protect against this. What we do know is that no one has ever woken up after taking 6 grams of a barbiturate provided no life-saving treatment had been started. If the intention of the combination was to speed up death, the committee would recommend either to take more than 6 grams of barbiturates or to add 300 mg of a long-acting benzodiazepines (Chapter 2.2.7).
The authors do not see sound toxicological arguments for the combination of pentobarbital with a beta-blocker like propranolol, neither do
they have empirical data against using it. On clinical pharmaceutical grounds an overdose of beta-blocker may in some people induce cardiac fibrillation while in others it may protect against this. What we do know is that no one has ever woken up after taking 6 grams of a barbiturate provided no life-saving treatment had been started. If the intention of the combination was to speed up death, the committee would recommend either to take more than 6 grams of barbiturates or to add 300 mg of a long-acting benzodiazepines (Chapter 2.2.7).
And there is of course the section about alcohol in the PPeH:
Page 372
The liquid in the glass can be drunk quickly in 2 or 3 swallows, and then followed by some alcohol, usually spirits or liqueur. Although not essential, alcohol is recommended as it alleviates the bitter Nembutal after-taste, and will speed the drug's action.
The liquid in the glass can be drunk quickly in 2 or 3 swallows, and then followed by some alcohol, usually spirits or liqueur. Although not essential, alcohol is recommended as it alleviates the bitter Nembutal after-taste, and will speed the drug's action.
Is there any other information on this? Maybe someone has some other information that he/she could share.