HelensNepenthe

HelensNepenthe

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Jan 17, 2019
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Here's the actual briefing for anyone who wants to reference it. I'm not informed on the topic of euthanasia, but there has always been strong advoacy for it ever since the Drion's pill emerged in discussion in the early 90s. I'm taking a guess is that the political party backing this is looking towards that direction still. The only forms of euthanasia that I know in the Netherlands is either through barbiturates or sodium azide.
 
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Jan 26, 2020
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Not sure, but more likely to be cyanide
 
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Polly

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Jan 15, 2020
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Seems to me thst healthy seniors would be less interested in ctb if supports offering quality of life were instituted. You know, the basics: affordable housing, comprehensive affordable healthcare, engaging employment and social/ cultural interactions. Reliable affordable transportation.
 
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lofistos345

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Seems to me thst healthy seniors would be less interested in ctb if supports offering quality of life were instituted. You know, the basics: affordable housing, comprehensive affordable healthcare, engaging employment and social/ cultural interactions. Reliable affordable transportation.
That's a good point. Any Dutch here to help clear this out?
 
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Mizzmini45

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Dec 1, 2019
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I'm jealous
 
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TAW122

Emissary of the right to die.
Aug 30, 2018
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I wish this was a thing in the US, sadly, in the US most states still don't have legal death with dignity laws or assisted suicide. :aw: For the ones that do, they only allow it for the terminally ill (with <6 months to live, must be self-administred, must pass through lots of hoops, etc. and still could get turned down for just about any reason/technicality.).
 
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calendulo

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Jun 13, 2019
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I have read about this new, but i am not clear and I would not rather to make a mistake saying any nosense.
Guess @Berlin76 will get to clarify it. He will have information about.

Time ago I did read that is possible in Switzerland, something about an englishman widower who there was asking the euthanasia without any illness.
 
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Soul

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I thought the Netherlands have pretty solid health-care and senior-care systems. Maybe some people just feel like they'd make more sense dead. If everyone I care about has died and I'm boring and feeble and uninterested in the world I might feel that way.
 
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Berlin76

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Aug 18, 2019
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What's the pill made of?

I am in the process of euthanasia here in holland and i got approved for it also.
So yes its set up the system and also for elderly people there are ways out.

This is the article that's about it only in Dutch. Many people even those who are not ill want to die. Mostly because they don't like the getting old part and lonely partt of it.


The pill they are talking about is named rhe drion pill. Its mostly hypothetical because its name was use in the 90th to promote and get euthanasia together in a law.

In the years after there have been pharmaceutical companies who had designs of pill ready to produce but it never happened.

That's a good point. Any Dutch here to help clear this out?

See my comment or else on euthanasia my treads about my euthanasia process via my name
Not sure, but more likely to be cyanide

Its was just hypothetical the pill nothing has come of it.
Not sure, but more likely to be cyanide

It will never be cyanide for the reason that it is not peaceful if they ever make a pill. But its just hypothetical the pill because we have euthanasia with pentobarbital and its effective.
 
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voyager

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Nov 25, 2019
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0.18%?? I'm actually surprised it's so few considering there's so many horrible stories surrounding the elderly. Who hasn't heard of bedridden people (possibly mistreated), alzheimer's, or others lying dead in their appartment for years while nobody cared? There can be good reason to stick around, but I feel ageing poses a lot of dangers in this society, because you might lose the ability to make that choice for yourself, be it physically or mentally, and end up relying on other people which is always a really bad idea.
 
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NotWhatIExpected

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Jan 27, 2020
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I am in the process of euthanasia here in holland and i got approved for it also.
So yes its set up the system and also for elderly people there are ways out.

This is the article that's about it only in Dutch. Many people even those who are not ill want to die. Mostly because they don't like the getting old part and lonely partt of it.


The pill they are talking about is named rhe drion pill. Its mostly hypothetical because its name was use in the 90th to promote and get euthanasia together in a law.

In the years after there have been pharmaceutical companies who had designs of pill ready to produce but it never happened.



See my comment or else on euthanasia my treads about my euthanasia process via my name


Its was just hypothetical the pill nothing has come of it.


It will never be cyanide for the reason that it is not peaceful if they ever make a pill. But its just hypothetical the pill because we have euthanasia with pentobarbital and its effective.
It's possible a good enough dosage of a cyanide pill could be pretty painless, and quick
 
Proto

Proto

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Jan 21, 2020
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I would show this to my grandma because she also wants to die, but i'm a bit reluctant it doesn't seem morally sound lol
 
Hank

Hank

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Nov 29, 2018
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I thought the Netherlands have pretty solid health-care and senior-care systems. Maybe some people just feel like they'd make more sense dead. If everyone I care about has died and I'm boring and feeble and uninterested in the world I might feel that way.

This used to be the case. But as you might know the bankers have stolen a lot of money of the people since and before the latest financial crisis. And also everything had to be privatized for the obvious reasons, namely for corruption to flourish and stealing more money from the customer and the tax payer. So the situation has changed in the last 20 years.

Elderly with limited resources know were they will end, namely rotting away in their bed without any attention. And if the reasonably healthy elderly ever gets sick, they made sure that the bureaucracy will take them down.
 
Darkhaven

Darkhaven

All i have left is memories
May 19, 2019
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Why can't it be like this everywhere???
I kind of envy the people who live in modernized, non catholic, non patriarchal countries.
Must be much more pleaseant living your life surrounded by people who respect other people's perspectives, actually make an effort to provide others with freedom of choice to make their life choices based on their opinions and ideologies rather than the stinking cesspits of the southern european countries where most of the population is still tainted with 16th century Catholic ideas, like "only God can decide when our life must end"..., Stupid biggots.
 
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GoodPersonEffed

GoodPersonEffed

Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
Jan 11, 2020
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"Dutch to offer 'poison pill' to healthy seniors who want to die"

This is a misleading and emotionally provocative headline.

The story says there was a study, and based on that study, a political party is promoting a policy to offer such a legal option. There is as of yet no legislation, nor any indication it will be enacted.

No offense intended to the OP, who likely had good intentions, but titling the post with the verbatim headline generates a false belief and as yet unfounded hope. Even asking what the pill *is* made of rather than what it *would be* made of is misleading to those who don't read the linked story.

Provided I'm still here, I hope y'all will let me know when there is something tangible to envy and hope for, such as a bill, a vote, and a method. :)

Sorry if I'm perceived as a party pooper. Every party usually has one. Trying not to be too obnoxiously or offensively stinky.

:heart:
 
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