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sully

sully

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What do you guys think of taking drugs before N? There some drugs that make me feel very good (like MDMA) or mephedrone or even cocaine but will such drugs interfere with pentobarbital?

I know weed works like natural antiemetic but weed is very difficult, noone knows how it will turn out. Also I know that alcohol is a must.

I hope noone will judge for not wanting to CTB sober - we all know it´s not an easy process. Anyway just want your opinions on how it might interfere.
 
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Snake of Eden

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I doubt you will want to ctb while under mdma. You will savour being all loving and happy on it and will want to continue feeling that way as long as you can.
 
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Stimulants are the worst thing to use before hand, but if you had to pick one, cocaine would be better than MDMA, meth, or mephedrone due to the shorter half life. that said, stimulants are an awful choice.

Weed is good for the antiemetic effects, alcohol is synergistic with N, provided it isn't overdone, which can cause vomiting. Opioids are also synergistic.
 
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I doubt you will want to ctb while under mdma. You will savour being all loving and happy on it and will want to continue feeling that way as long as you can.
nah. To me is something I HAVE to do, not feel like doing. I´m not just suicidal, Im terminal too.
Stimulants are the worst thing to use before hand, but if you had to pick one, cocaine would be better than MDMA, meth, or mephedrone due to the shorter half life. that said, stimulants are an awful choice.

Weed is good for the antiemetic effects, alcohol is synergistic with N, provided it isn't overdone, which can cause vomiting. Opioids are also synergistic.
I was told off of opioids recently, they really increase the chance of vomiting, especially for people with no tolerance.
 
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alcohol yeah but you take it together with the n, you dont get drunk first otherwise you might lower n's effectiveness a bit.
 
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i personally wouldnt use weed as it can get me into psychosis and being afraid will get highlighted and amplified
 
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i personally wouldnt use weed as it can get me into psychosis and being afraid will get highlighted and amplified
yes, weed id REALLY subjective and depends a lot on whats going through your brain-
 
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Stimulants are the worst thing to use before hand, but if you had to pick one, cocaine would be better than MDMA, meth, or mephedrone due to the shorter half life. that said, stimulants are an awful choice.

Weed is good for the antiemetic effects, alcohol is synergistic with N, provided it isn't overdone, which can cause vomiting. Opioids are also synergistic.
Why stimulants are bad? Im taking concerta recreationally and never thought about how it could interfere with N
 
sully

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I underdtand your takes of not WANTING to ctb on MDMA (it´s not gonna happen with me). I mean, can there be any chemical interference with barbiturates?
 
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My question, too. What kinds, if any?

1. You can do weed as the antiemetics (probably not much, depending how you react on weed too, to some people weed give panick attacks)
2. Alcohol AFTER taking N (a good shot of favourire strong alcohol)
2. Don´t do the opiates (increase chance of vomiting)
3. MDMA or mephedrone - don´t know. Try to find out here. It´s just that those are euphoria drugs and kind of stimulants - so, on the one hand, they can help, on the other hand - interfere with barbiturates, not sure how exactly.
 
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I feel like smoking weed before ctb would give me anxiety. I'd rather get slightly tipsy from strong alcohol and have a cigarette.
 
sully

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I feel like smoking weed before ctb would give me anxiety. I'd rather get slightly tipsy from strong alcohol and have a cigarette.
I would drink too but I´m told on here that alcohol must be taken after N, not before.
 
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Some guy posted that he took LSD and then SN in the back of his van and CTBed earlier this year. That is pretty damn hardcore. I think Aldous Huxley also went out on LSD. I can't imagine doing psychedelics. MDMA can also bad trip though I find though depending on mental state so have to be careful. Stimulants would create way too much anxiety for me. I'd probably stick to depressants. Maybe nitrous oxide would be good to inhale prior to drinking N.
 
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1. You can do weed as the antiemetics (probably not much, depending how you react on weed too, to some people weed give panick attacks)
2. Alcohol AFTER taking N (a good shot of favourire strong alcohol)
2. Don´t do the opiates (increase chance of vomiting)
3. MDMA or mephedrone - don´t know. Try to find out here. It´s just that those are euphoria drugs and kind of stimulants - so, on the one hand, they can help, on the other hand - interfere with barbiturates, not sure how exactly.
Thanks for this!
 
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Is alcohol considered essential? I don't drink so I would have to buy a whole bottle of whisky or whatever for one shot. I plan to take diazepam with my AE's an hour before N and maybe an ambien or 2, does that sound good? Should I avoid my prescription meds that day? Antidepressants, tramadol, propranolol etc
 
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sully

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Some guy posted that he took LSD and then SN in the back of his van and CTBed earlier this year. That is pretty damn hardcore. I think Aldous Huxley also went out on LSD. I can't imagine doing psychedelics. MDMA can also bad trip though I find though depending on mental state so have to be careful. Stimulants would create way too much anxiety for me. I'd probably stick to depressants. Maybe nitrous oxide would be good to inhale prior to drinking N.
yeah, some LSD especially with no tolerance is just another level experience though. But it is for strong willed only.
Is alcohol considered essential? I don't drink so I would have to buy a whole bottle of whisky or whatever for one shot. I plan to take diazepam with my AE's an hour before N and maybe an ambien or 2, does that sound good? Should I avoid my prescription meds that day? Antidepressants, tramadol, propranolol etc
antidepressants - yes, can turn out in an unpredictable way, better quit - 2 weeks prior...
tramadol - also. reduces effect of antiemetics
proplanolol I´ve seen as a part of kit for SN but not for N... Also interested in that...
 
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Dystopia

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yeah, some LSD especially with no tolerance is just another level experience though. But it is for strong willed only.

antidepressants - yes, can turn out in an unpredictable way, better quit - 2 weeks prior...
tramadol - also. reduces effect of antiemetics
proplanolol I´ve seen as a part of kit for SN but not for N... Also interested in that...
They use propranolol with secobarbital in a MAID documentation I've read and it seemed to speed up the time until death slightly so I don't feel it should negatively N; but unnecessary
 
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@zeroornothing stimulants aren't ideal with N, as they prolong consciousness as well as increase respiration rate.
 
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