Drowning must be the method with the most conflicting views

[TheStartOfEnding]

Sometimes i read that's is very painful, other time that it's not and that consciousness is lost very quickly once resistance stops and the water is swallowed.

For instance, i find this interresting :

"In the first place, it is to be remarked that persons who have come so near drowning as to be unconscious when taken from the water, and so must have passed through all the suffering that attends death by drowning, say that they remember no feeling of pain whatever."

 

[Lotharius]

Method is lacking compared to most within just as easy reach. Hanging would be better ie

 

[Santiago]

I can't tell you how it feels once you can't get above surface anymore but I almost drowned as a kid and I can tell you the struggle against it is terrible. Not necessarily painful but very uncomfortable and also a lot of panick while you try to find something to hold on to.

 

[ion900]

is there some way to hook up nodes to the brain and measure how much the pain parts are lighting up?

 

[typx]

I almost drowned when I was a kid and all I can remember is pure animal panic. Not being able to breathe is it's own kind of pain.

 

[typx]

Oh, on that topic.. you've got to love the tv trope of a person walking into the ocean calmly and peacefully until they disappear from view. 'Shameless' has a good example. Drowning never looked so easy.

 

[ImNotBatman]

There is a liquid used in torture, that allows you to breathe while being submerged in it, and they'll put you in it and take you out, just because its the water filling your lungs and leaving your lungs thats the worst part of it.

If you want to test drowning, have someone waterboard you.

 

[typx]

There is a liquid used in torture, that allows you to breathe while being submerged in it, and they'll put you in it and take you out, just because its the water filling your lungs and leaving your lungs thats the worst part of it.

Are you talking about the stuff developed by the military for their divers? You can see it used in 'The Abyss'. If it's the same stuff, supposedly after the initial panic it becomes comfortably breathable.

 

[ImNotBatman]

Are you talking about the stuff developed by the military for their divers? You can see it used in 'The Abyss'. If it's the same stuff, supposedly after the initial panic it becomes comfortably breathable.

Yeah, its the removal and resubmerging that makes it torture.

 

[Life sucks]

If you mean this then no and it is a completely different thing
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/shallow-water-blackout.496/

And I mentioned it is not a method

 

[Karl30]

Better to drown then burn !

 

[typx]

If you mean this then no and it is a completely different thing
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/shallow-water-blackout.496/

And I mentioned it is not a method

You can go watch guys going through this on youtube if you look up Navy SEAL training.

 

[typx]

Yeah, its the removal and resubmerging that makes it torture.

That seems a pretty complex torture method. Why go through the trouble?

 

[ImNotBatman]

That seems a pretty complex torture method. Why go through the trouble?

Less damage than the typical waterboarding with all the panic and "fun. "

 

[anna]

I almost drowned when I was a kid and all I can remember is pure animal panic. Not being able to breathe is it's own kind of pain.

Same.
It was very distressing

 

[TheStartOfEnding]

Method is lacking compared to most within just as easy reach. Hanging would be better ie

Hanging is just 66% odds of death, very low for me.

Drowning is 100% for me since i've never learned how to swim.

 

[TheStartOfEnding]

There is a liquid used in torture, that allows you to breathe while being submerged in it, and they'll put you in it and take you out, just because its the water filling your lungs and leaving your lungs thats the worst part of it.

If you want to test drowning, have someone waterboard you.

It's not the same thing since by definition, that method is designed to not kill you, while with normal drowning you'd die after 1minute or so.

 

[ImNotBatman]

It's not the same thing since by definition, that method is designed to not kill you, while with normal drowning you'd die after 1minute or so.

Certainly, I agree. But pure panic, vs eventual giving in to the darkness.

 

[Squidward]

I don't think it's very conflicting. The vast majority of the accounts I've read describe the moments before as panic, sometimes followed by a brief calm before taking in water/going unconscious.

Pain only really comes into the stories after being pulled out.

I'm really curious if one could have the willpower to just take in a breath of water early to skip some of the panic and get it over with.

I've read accounts of people realizing the jig is up and deciding to take in water, but I question whether that's actually a decision or whether they just ran out of breathe and were in some sort of hyper aware state.

 

[Spiko]

Method is lacking compared to most within just as easy reach. Hanging would be better ie

Every "hanging" is different. If hanging is done "good", then you are unconscious after a few seconds, BUT if you do it not "good", then it can happen, that you hangs many minutes before you will get unconscious. I don't would prefer to hanging generally.

 

[CogitoMori]

It hurts at first, but the lack of oxygen and water in the brain (I think) triggers a euphoric high just before death. I'd rather use helium personally.

There is a liquid used in torture, that allows you to breathe while being submerged in it, and they'll put you in it and take you out, just because its the water filling your lungs and leaving your lungs thats the worst part of it.

If you want to test drowning, have someone waterboard you.

Waterboarding is actually more painful and panic inducing than drowning according to accounts of people that have experienced both. The periodic reintroduction of oxygen triggers more panic response in the brain.