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Hi everyone, i have been reading many threads for 2 days and decided to sign up. You can call me K and i'm from Viet Nam. I don't want to share about my background now but the decision to CTB is already made.

I would appreciate if any of you could answer my questions, since i am a bit confused.

I decided to use the STAT dose, which is faster.

1. Is STAT dose less likely to work than 48h dose?
2. Stan said try not to drink 2 hours beforehand, but how can you take the paracetamol or meto without water?
3. I'm 172 tall and 68 kg, how much SN and water do i need to be out of earth?
4. I know that there is case that the person will make sounds before dead, but is it the same for all the cases? I worried that i will make loud sounds that will wake my parents up and i will be found.

Thank you guys in advanced :X
 
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Ulisses

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drink as little water as possible, this will help
 
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Hello,
1) There is not much difference whether you take stat dose or 48h regime.
However, when people are euthanized, they get a stat dose.
If you are willing to take a stat dose, I recommend you to test Meto, how your body reacts to it. It does not happen very often, but you may feel bad if you take a stat dose without prior testing.
2) You can drink just a little bit of water, it will be absorbed very fast anyway.
3) https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-water-amount-lookup-table-draft-version.31851/
Here you can find a table which shows the amount of SN required for your weight and amount of water to mix.
It shows 17,5 g for your body weight. But I will take golden 25 g if have to use SN :heart:
 
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Hello,
1) There is not much difference whether you take stat dose or 48h regime.
However, when people are euthanized, they get a stat dose.
If you are willing to take a stat dose, I recommend you to test Meto, how your body reacts to it. It does not happen very often, but you may feel bad if you take a stat dose without prior testing.
2) You can drink just a little bit of water, it will be absorbed very fast anyway.
3) https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-water-amount-lookup-table-draft-version.31851/
Here you can find a table which shows the amount of SN required for your weight and amount of water to mix.
It shows 17,5 g for your body weight. But I will take golden 25 g if have to use SN :heart:
Thank you, i just add 1 more question please help me T + T
 
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@Quarky00 @jgm63
What are your opinions on this subject?
 
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Hi
I can't answer your questions because I suffer from cognitive decline. I am sorry.

If you look for the magnifying glass icon, on the upper right(?) side of the screen, you can search user posts and threads directly by keywords.

Generally, the people who have survived SN have done so because:

1. They called for help.
2. They were found by another person that called for help.
3. They vomited a lot, and so their dose was low.
My plan is to prepare 3 SN drinks. If I vomit after the first one, I will drink the second, etc. I can only speak for myself.

I am sorry that life has brought you here.

Please try to talk to people on the site for support. It is important not to act after 2 days of emotional distress.
Peace.
 
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jgm63

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Hello,
1) There is not much difference whether you take stat dose or 48h regime.
However, when people are euthanized, they get a stat dose.
If you are willing to take a stat dose, I recommend you to test Meto, how your body reacts to it. It does not happen very often, but you may feel bad if you take a stat dose without prior testing.
2) You can drink just a little bit of water, it will be absorbed very fast anyway.
3) https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-water-amount-lookup-table-draft-version.31851/
Here you can find a table which shows the amount of SN required for your weight and amount of water to mix.
It shows 17,5 g for your body weight. But I will take golden 25 g if have to use SN :heart:
f.y.i. That's the old table version......
New version :
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-water-amount-lookup-table-v2.32241/
 
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f.y.i. That's the old table version......
New version :
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-water-amount-lookup-table-v2.32241/
Perfect, I will even save the table :heart:
@ilovedmylife Sorry, according to the new table, it is 20,5g
 
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@ilovedmylife I highly recommend reading the FAQ as it answers most of your question :) Some of Stan's guidelines have been relaxed . See Resource Page .

1. Is STAT dose less likely to work than 48h dose?
No, but Regimen safer, may do 24h instead of 48h

2. Stan said try not to drink 2 hours beforehand, but how can you take the paracetamol or meto without water?
That had been relaxed . You may drink water up to 1h before SN intake . If you need -- may drink small amounts in the last hour . Etc .

3. I'm 172 tall and 68 kg, how much SN and water do i need to be out of earth?
Normal amount . 20g-25g at 50ml-75ml . No need to be precise . I will not use the table , it's confusing .

4. I know that there is case that the person will make sounds before dead, but is it the same for all the cases? I worried that i will make loud sounds that will wake my parents up and i will be found.
It is rare . There are no "convulsion" only slight muscle tremors . Person may "moan" but not loudly . Important not to move , stay sitted etc . Many people make the mistake of walking around . Vomiting is not violent or continuous due to the small amount , 50ml .

Did I miss something ? :)
 
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jgm63

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Professor @Quarky00 and @faust have answered most of your questions.
I'll add some extra info....

1. Is STAT dose less likely to work than 48h dose?
Stat dose should be fine.... For more info, see :
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/n-protocol-regime-regimen-notes.27092/post-642667

3. I'm 172 tall and 68 kg, how much SN and water do i need to be out of earth?
As stated above, see my table.
Professor @Quarky00 doesn't like the table, so you'll have to decide for yourself whether you wish to use it.
Personally I think it's valid and "somewhat useful", but then I would because I made that thread : ¬ )

4. I know that there is case that the person will make sounds before dead, but is it the same for all the cases? I worried that i will make loud sounds that will wake my parents up and i will be found.
Can you have some background noise ? Any late night sports events you watch ?
Can you choose your timing accordingly ?
Have you considered doing it away from home ? Is there no way to somehow organise something like that ?
If not, then I suppose just make the best of what you have to work with......
 
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1. They called for help.
2. They were found by another person that called for help.
3. They vomited a lot, and so their dose was low.
4. They walked about . Don't drink and drive stand kids!

I think (3) is actually rare to non-existent . I have not seen members fail and recover spontaneously at home . Correct me if I'm wrong .
 
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Thank you all so much. @Quarky00 @jgm63 @Dear Flabby @faust
I have other 4 questions, and sorry for being a suicidal perfectionist who wants to be clear about everything lol, and thank you again in advanced
1. i can't find tagamet here, just Kremil-S which includes Magnesium Hydroxide 233 mg, don't know that it can be a good choice for antacid?
Otherwise, Milk Of Magnesium is the better choice for Antacid?
2. I'm in depression and anxiety causing me not able to sleep, do i need to take anything else to help me get in unconscious way?
3. 4 hour is the longest time to be fatal right? in that case, if i take SN at 1 AM successfully then i have 4 more hours to be discovered by my parents (my dad normally gets up at 5AM). Is there anycase that someone gets found and saved even after 4 hours?
4. is there any video link recording the SN fatal process (just curious) ?
 
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1. i can't find tagamet here, just Kremil-S which includes Magnesium Hydroxide 233 mg, don't know that it can be a good choice for antacid?
Otherwise, Milk Of Magnesium is the better choice for Antacid?
Since antacids are so insignificant I wouldn't bother. If we take 20g SN then stomach acid may contradict 1g of it (and we may vomit 10g of it). So I couldn't care less about the type of antacid/acid-regulator... that 1g...



2. I'm in depression and anxiety causing me not able to sleep, do i need to take anything else to help me get in unconscious way?
No. Follow guide. May use benzo etc. SN makes you faint ~ 12m unconscious ~ 18m. Benzo/z , propalonol, painkillers, etc help with symptoms.



3. 4 hour is the longest time to be fatal right? in that case, if i take SN at 1 AM successfully then i have 4 more hours to be discovered by my parents (my dad normally gets up at 5AM). Is there anycase that someone gets found and saved even after 4 hours?
4 hours is for fragile old patients with morphine (slow down metabolism X3). 2h are enough. No one with lethal dose was found and saved after 4h ...



4. is there any video link recording the SN fatal process (just curious) ?
No, and there will never be.
 
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Is there anycase that someone gets found and saved even after 4 hours?
I live with my parents, I tried SN a few months ago. They saved me after >4 hours! Taking SN while my parents were sleeping was a bad idea
 
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can you tell me details of your trial?
I waited for my parents to go to sleep, then take quetiapine, wait 1 hour and take SN. I vomited but then fainted almost immediately. That's probably why I was still alive even after 3-4 hours. But I think if my parents didn't call an ambulance I'd be dead...
 
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I waited for my parents to go to sleep, then take quetiapine, wait 1 hour and take SN. I vomited but then fainted almost immediately. That's probably why I was still alive even after 3-4 hours. But I think if my parents didn't call an ambulance I'd be dead...
Sorry for doubting you , but I find it hard to believe :hug: Did you post that story here previously?

You rarely post here , you told the same story before , about your SN attempt in 2019 , without providing details, answering questions , replying members , saying how much SN you took , etc .

I'm sorry if that happened to you but without further details that story is dubious .



https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...all-an-ambulance-afterwards.33189/post-613023

Please understand that it's not against you , without further details it just doesnt sound right :hug:
 
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Ulisses

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I read a story anyway. he woke up to piss and their parents used him just like smurf kkkkkkkk
 
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I read a story anyway. he woke up to piss and their parents used him just like smurf kkkkkkkk
Smurf :pfff:

Peeing/smurf/parents is a different , recent story , by @ShadowChild .
 
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Sorry for doubting you , but I find it hard to believe :hug: Did you post that story here previously?

You rarely post here , you told the same story before , about your SN attempt in 2019 , without providing details, answering questions , replying members , saying how much SN you took , etc .

I'm sorry if that happened to you but without further details that story is dubious .



https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...all-an-ambulance-afterwards.33189/post-613023

Please understand that it's not against you , without further details it just doesnt sound right :hug:
Well, sorry, I don't post here often because most of the time I simply don't have anything to say :c
 
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Well, sorry, I don't post here often because most of the time I simply don't have anything to say :c
Sorry as well :) Please detail your story if you could . Mentioning it off hand , "oh found after 4h" , creates undue fear .
 
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I waited for my parents to go to sleep, then take quetiapine, wait 1 hour and take SN. I vomited but then fainted almost immediately. That's probably why I was still alive even after 3-4 hours. But I think if my parents didn't call an ambulance I'd be dead...
maybe you didn't take the right amount of SN? Or you didn't take meto, that why you vomitted and didn't absorb enough SN to be fatal?
 
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maybe you didn't take the right amount of SN? Or you didn't take meto, that why you vomitted and didn't absorb enough SN to be fatal?
I took the right amount, I think, 25g. I took quetiapine instead of meto because Stan's guide recommends doing so. Probably should have taken meto as well
 
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maybe you didn't take the right amount of SN? Or you didn't take meto, that why you vomitted and didn't absorb enough SN to be fatal?
I took the right amount, I think, 25g. I took quetiapine instead of meto because Stan's guide recommends doing so. Probably should have taken meto as well
  1. Even without any meto 25g is enough and effective
  2. You dont take quetiapine with meto
  3. Queitiapine taken not "before" but as part of regular meds regimen
  4. You wrote 25g but that dose is PPH's, from recent months, and not in Stan's Guide (unless overweight)

Zed you wrote in February that you tried SN "several months ago" , please give all details . Sorry story as it stands now cannot be considered an SN failure to be relied upon. We do document cases.

Take your time and please provide some details .
  1. Dose of SN
  2. Did you use scales to weigh it
  3. Did you fast 5-8h before
  4. Did you stop water intake at least 2h before?
  5. When did you attempt? Sep Oct Nov?
 
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Sorry as well :) Please detail your story if you could . Mentioning it off hand , "oh found after 4h" , creates undue fear .
I'm not sure what other details I missed. I was doing stat dose with quetiapine, antacid and painkiller
  1. Even without any meto 25g is enough and effective
  2. You dont take quetiapine with meto
  3. You wrote 25g but that dose is PPH's, from recent months, and not in Stan's Guide (unless overweight)

Zed you wrote in February that you tried SN "several months ago" , please give all details . Sorry but your story as it stands now doesn't add up .

Take your time and please provide details .
  1. Dose of SN
  2. Did you use scales to weigh it
  3. Did you fast 5-8h before
  4. When did you attempt? Sep Oct Nov?
I took 25g in 50ml. I used scales. And yes, I did a 6h fast. It was Nov, I think. I didn't have an account on SS at that time, though
 
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I'm not sure what other details I missed. I was doing stat dose with quetiapine, antacid and painkiller

I took 25g in 50ml. I used scales. And yes, I did a 6h fast. It was Nov, I think. I didn't have an account on SS at that time, though

1. How much do you weigh? :hug:

2. If you fainted how do you know it was 4 hours? What hour did you attempt, and when did you arrive to ICU?

3. Where and how did you vomit?

Please understand this is a rare , unique and peculiar case. :heart:
 
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I don't know for sure... maybe around 60-70 kg
Added more questions there

2. If you fainted how do you know 4 hours: what hour did you attempt, and when did you arrive to ICU?

3. Where and how did you vomit?
 
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Added more questions there

2. If you fainted how do you know 4 hours: what hour did you attempt, and when did you arrive to ICU?

3. Where and how did you vomit?
Attempted at 1AM, don't know when arrived to ICU. My mom wakes up at 6AM so probably it was 5 hours, not 4
And I vomited 5-8 minutes after taking SN
 

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