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EmoIsNotAPhase

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would this work fast? Bleach is too weak and all I can find online is the effects of mixing not digesting it I assume it would but I dint want to live with the after effects if I survive I dint care about pain especially if I get the release of death
 
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You are looking at a very painful death. Do your research, household websites, poison control websites, you will see the symptoms and effects of this. Unless you are a masochist I would not recommend this. Also you will more than likely puke it up and f up your throat and stomach for the rest of your life. Not to mention the fumes fing things up like your eyes and nose.
 
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You are looking at a very painful death. Do your research, household websites, poison control websites, you will see the symptoms and effects of this. Unless you are a masochist I would not recommend this. Also you will more than likely puke it up and f up your throat and stomach for the rest of your life. Not to mention the fumes fing things up like your eyes and nose.
I mean honestly I've been a masochist all my life but the throwing it up and surviving is what I'm worried about I'm trying to find the effects so I can plan ahead but I can't find them combined I guess it's not a commonly google term I know it's toxic just to breath the mixture thought if it's dangerous to breath it in it's got to be a lot worse to then ingest it
 
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The active ingredient in most bleaches is sodium hypochlorite and ammonia is well ammonia ( NH3 ), mixing these two will give varying degrees and concentrations of chloramine. Chloramine is what we use in most of the western world to sterilize tap water. In high concentrations, it can eat through the mucous lining of your stomach as it reacts with some of the HCL in your stomach to get in varying concentrations of perchlorites. You could dissolve and eat through your stomach tissue, not guaranteed. Probably one of the most painful deaths one could envision. This not a good idea and most likely you will be severely damaged and not dead.
 
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Not only will it not work fast, it probably won't work at all. If it did, I can't think of many more unpleasant ways to die than from internal chemical burns.

https://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/what-if/what-if-drink-bleach.htm
I would need industrial bleach to drink bleach alone yeah I read that article in my research but I think people have died just by mixing ammonia and bleach I know if I survive I won't be able to talk or probably eat it's a huge risk
 
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The active ingredient in most bleaches is sodium hypochlorite and ammonia is well ammonia ( NH3 ), mixing these two will give varying degrees and concentrations of chloramine. Chloramine is what we use in most of the western world to sterilize tap water. In high concentrations, it can eat through the mucous lining of your stomach as it reacts with some of the HCL in your stomach to get in varying concentrations of perchlorites. You could dissolve and eat through your stomach tissue, not guaranteed. Probably one of the most painful deaths one could envision. This not a good idea and most likely you will be severely damaged and not dead.
Thank you for this information if I only suffere a short time the pain doesn't matter
 
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I would need industrial bleach to drink bleach alone yeah I read that article in my research but I think people have died just by mixing ammonia and bleach I know if I survive I won't be able to talk or probably eat it's a huge risk

This is just horrifying to even think about. Yes, you could lose most of your esophagus and end up with a feeding tube in your abdomen. The pain of the attempt itself would be unimaginable. I'm going to urge you not to do this.
 
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This is just horrifying to even think about. Yes, you could lose most of your esophagus and end up with a feeding tube in your abdomen. The pain of the attempt itself would be unimaginable. I'm going to urge you not to do this.

Please do not do this. Ginger understands the biology of this and I get the chemistry. This would be one of the most agonizing things anyone could ever do to themselves.
 
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EmoIsNotAPhase

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I'm sorry guys I'm so fucking desperate tonight I can't take it got the idea to just go to the store and pick these up and then drink them both in the parking lot
 
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I'm sorry guys I'm so fucking desperate tonight I can't take it

Please believe us when we tell you some things are far worse than desperation.

Stay online. Talk about what's hurting you so much... it really can be cathartic.
 
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I wouldn't do it bro. I understand how it feels to be fucking desperate, but this would be an excruciating method (not to mention the risk of failure and ending up with permanent damage). I would urge you to pick another method.
 
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I played a new basketball game with my brother tonight and just remembering my favorite sport and knowing I may never play again that realization unlocked too much for me and I can't deal I just can't I've been hysterical since and I don't get it but fuck I don't want to live knowing i won't rock climb I won't hike I won't do everything I love I'm so useless disabled and I just don't want to be the burden anymore I want it over fuck I want this over I dint want to deal another day
 
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I mean honestly I've been a masochist all my life but the throwing it up and surviving is what I'm worried about I'm trying to find the effects so I can plan ahead but I can't find them combined I guess it's not a commonly google term I know it's toxic just to breath the mixture thought if it's dangerous to breath it in it's got to be a lot worse to then ingest it
https://www.reference.com/science/happens-mix-bleach-ammonia-2fcdfd6710cbf89c
found in 5 seconds (literally). There are other search engines other than google. Google filters a lot.

Just don't do it. Gingerplum gave good advice.
 
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CazualT, I'm crushed to hear this. But remember, everyone, and this means you, deserves to CTB in the best way possible if they are determined to do it. There are many good people here, and I'm not one of them, that can help you discover and learn what's best for you in this situation. Believe it or not, we are all here in some form of pain and distress, but we want it to be the best and peaceful for you.
 
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https://www.reference.com/science/happens-mix-bleach-ammonia-2fcdfd6710cbf89c
found in 5 seconds (literally). There are other search engines other than google. Google filters a lot.

Just don't do it. Gingerplum gave good advice.
When I started reasearchimg my mistake was researching I was googling then together I had to research the chemical that produced and got the results I was looking for I had a complete shit week I know it's better to just continue looking for the gun I'm just rock bottom right now looking for anything I could do to night already failed at hanging I admit I can't fucking think straight I'm just sick of ducking suffering I just wanted this fight to be over I'm sorry
 
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ReadyasEver

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No reason to be sorry. Absolutely none.
 
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When I started reasearchimg my mistake was researching I was googling then together I had to research the chemical that produced and got the results I was looking for I had a complete shit week I know it's better to just continue looking for the gun I'm just rock bottom right now looking for anything I could do to night already failed at hanging I admit I can't fucking think straight I'm just sick of ducking suffering I just wanted this fight to be over I'm sorry
You have no reason to apologize. I am sure most of the people here have been where you are. Just don't go galavanting off on a method you have not researched throughly and have looked into other viable options. You do not want to make an attempt that will leave you in a horrible state because it will make your current situation even worse than what it is currently and perhaps not able to make another.

Take some time no matter how absolutely horrible it might be right now. Take a breath and talk to the people here. They are here for you. I would include myself but I will be gone from here tomorrow. No one here wants to see you hurt worse than what you are and to only ease the suffering. If you are going to CTB put a solid plan in place with all the pieces looked at so you know you have the highest chance of success.
 
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I played a new basketball game with my brother tonight and just remembering my favorite sport and knowing I may never play again that realization unlocked too much for me and I can't deal I just can't I've been hysterical since and I don't get it but fuck I don't want to live knowing i won't rock climb I won't hike I won't do everything I love I'm so useless disabled and I just don't want to be the burden anymore I want it over fuck I want this over I dint want to deal another day

I am so sorry you are hurting so badly....I do know to some extent how hard it is to wrap your mind around a previously healthy body having some deficit/disability. I just wanted you to know that I'm sorry your grieving your health and those feelings can be so intense and overwhelming.
I agree with everyone else that planning a good death is the very least of what you deserve! I know impulsivity can be a strong pull but but you actually deserve some time to mourn your losses!
I am so sorry for whatever has happened to your health/body/mobility.
Gentle hugs
 
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Dec 18, 2018
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Do not drink them! It is extremely unlikely you could swallow more than a mouthful. Your body will react in a way that will make it impossible to swallow more. I've seen a person who tried this. They have to eat through a tube and are in constant unbearable pain. It just burns the inside of the mouth , esophagus, and stomach. She has to have surgery every two weeks where they shove a balloon down her esophagus and inflate it. It rips the scarring apart to temporarily widen the diameter enough to get food in her. Her life really sucks now.

Mixing Ammonia and bleach in a container together while you are in an enclosed space can work. The enclosed space has to be airtight and you have to overcome your survival instinct. Your eyes, armpits, groin, anywhere with moisture will burn like fire. Your lungs and mouth will burn like fire. It takes agonizing minutes trying to fight the will to get out of the room. You will start vomiting. Snot and tears will be running down your face, burning. If you do this, you MUST post a warning note outside the enclosed space warning potential rescuers and first responders to NOT open the door without respirators stating DANGER CHLORINE GAS! Don't open door! Call Fire department first!

You could permanently injure or kill anyone who comes in for you.

My suggestion is to take a deep breath. Use this site to research a more reliable method. You found a Mecca of people who understand what you are going through and information on reliable ways to ctb.

We are here to help you no mapper what you choose.

Don't try to drink it. I'm 100% sure you will not die and will cause yourself life changing pain and disability.
 
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Do not drink them! It is extremely unlikely you could swallow more than a mouthful. Your body will react in a way that will make it impossible to swallow more. I've seen a person who tried this. They have to eat through a tube and are in constant unbearable pain. It just burns the inside of the mouth , esophagus, and stomach. She has to have surgery every two weeks where they shove a balloon down her esophagus and inflate it. It rips the scarring apart to temporarily widen the diameter enough to get food in her. Her life really sucks now.

Mixing Ammonia and bleach in a container together while you are in an enclosed space can work. The enclosed space has to be airtight and you have to overcome your survival instinct. Your eyes, armpits, groin, anywhere with moisture will burn like fire. Your lungs and mouth will burn like fire. It takes agonizing minutes trying to fight the will to get out of the room. You will start vomiting. Snot and tears will be running down your face, burning. If you do this, you MUST post a warning note outside the enclosed space warning potential rescuers and first responders to NOT open the door without respirators stating DANGER CHLORINE GAS! Don't open door! Call Fire department first!

You could permanently injure or kill anyone who comes in for you.

My suggestion is to take a deep breath. Use this site to research a more reliable method. You found a Mecca of people who understand what you are going through and information on reliable ways to ctb.

We are here to help you no mapper what you choose.

Don't try to drink it. I'm 100% sure you will not die and will cause yourself life changing pain and disability.

Your ability to describe potential reactions is infuriatingly good. I can almost feel it viscerally as I read it.

I haz the jealousy.
 
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Your ability to describe potential reactions is infuriatingly good. I can almost feel it viscerally as I read it.

I haz the jealousy.
@gingerplum thank you! You gave me a genuine laugh out loud. You and I make a great team! Add @TiredHorse and we are the Three Darkskateers of the SSF!
 
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TiredHorse

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Oh lordy. I almost couldn't bear to read this thread. No, please don't use bleach and ammonia. Won't work, and too horrible to contemplate.

@Stillnotsure, I am deeply honored to be included as a member of the SSF Dark Triad!
 
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Oh lordy. I almost couldn't bear to read this thread. No, please don't use bleach and ammonia. Won't work, and too horrible to contemplate.

@Stillnotsure, I am deeply honored to be included as a member of the SSF Dark Triad!

The third of the triumvirate hath spoken.
 
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While I'm sure everyone here supports your decision to ctb, definitely don't do it cause it sounds way too painful and will make your life even worse if you survive (which seems very likely).

You might consider looking into SN. While getting the antiemetics can be a pain it's basically this without the horrible burning pain and it's reversible if you vomit or change your mind.
 
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