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Mav

Mav

Lost somewhere
Aug 30, 2024
16
You called me a "troll", accused me of being an "activist", saying I failed cause I didn't follow SN "protocols….
For a forum offering support, y'all were clearly NOT doing that.
Let the troll explain….

I did a lot of research and found such different experiences among individuals like it was night & day. Of course there is a "protocol" on potency, fasting times, and amount. But it is most certainly NOT that cut & dry. That is why you see multiple failed attempts using the method to a T.
Hell, people have survived jumping off of the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco. This and every other method are not a "one size fits all". Not even close. You can jump from a second story building & die instantly on impact…or just break a few bones. You can jump off of the tallest buildings & bridges, and the same applies. You can die on impact, or you can slowly die in severe pain while awaiting rescue. Or, you can be rescued & survive which will most likely be an absolutely awful experience.
Being told not to make a blanket statement is ridiculous.
I'm not saying it doesn't work. I'm saying there is no guarantee, and there is still a large possibility it won't work.
Nothing is guaranteed.
You just have to truly think about what you are willing to do & willing to experience while the method takes time to work or if you fail. I feel offering my experience can give everyone here the opportunity to know & learn that nothing is guaranteed to work. Nothing.

I have a medical condition called gastroparesis. My stomach is 85% paralyzed. Fasting times for me are incredibly different from normal because contents remain in my stomach 85% longer than the norm. Tht being said, I absorb through the stomach incredibly slow. If I take medication, it takes up to 3-4 hours to start working & I need a considerably higher dose than the recommended ones. I researched it at great length taking into consideration the half life of the SN, as well as the antiemetics. Also calculating my gastric emptying with absorption rated to ensure that the method would be successful. I didn't fail because I didn't follow the "protocol". I failed because there is absolutely no way to accurately calculate or measure the amount/potency with my medical condition. I also have AI, in which my body does not produce cortisol. If you don't know what that is, then there is no way for you to be able to understand why or how I determined the formula I used. I'll say again….everyone is different, this is NOT one size fits all, and it is most certainly NOT guaranteed. I am not trying to troll or give misinformation. I'm telling my experience associated with the way my body functions.
Taking all that into consideration, makes my experience far from flawed. It makes the protocol flawed because it gives absolutely NO consideration to such obstacles that absolutely need to account for changes & major modifications.

I'm not encouraging or discouraging anything here. Failing was devastating to me. Extremely. I'm very sick & I suffer greatly. Waking up in the ICU was pretty awful to say the least. Read on in the thread on more explanation to my experience. I'm offering genuine advice & correct information as a helpful tool. NOT to cause any encouragement or lack there of…..

Thank you.
 
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locked*n*loaded

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Apr 15, 2022
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The problem seems to be that SN is not the correct choice for you. Most people don't have your condition(s). It's best not to use "blanket" statements and inferences that SN may not be the best choice "for anyone" simply because it's not right for you.
 
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TheHolySword

TheHolySword

empty heart
Nov 22, 2024
925
A standard protocol cannot possibly account for every single variable that exists. It's your job to figure out how to update the formula to better suit your condition. The protocol is not flawed because it didn't work for your unique situation. I'm sorry that it didn't work and that you had to endure the trauma of surviving but maybe the method just isn't for you. You're right, it's not a one size fits all, sometimes it just doesn't fit and you have to choose something else. No method is guaranteed either and if anyone is trying to tell you otherwise don't listen to them.
 
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leloyon

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Feb 4, 2023
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Most people do not have your condition, you are an outlier.
 
Salting the wounds

Salting the wounds

Member
Dec 2, 2024
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Literally the world has to align itself with your ideals, the other day I saw a case of a young man who worked in construction, a machine fell on him and his body literally cut in half (he even lost his digestive system and intimate parts).
Question that is still alive, it took hours to get to the hospital.
And there are people here who want to do it with a simple knife.
 
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Corvette90

Member
Jan 2, 2025
56
You called me a "troll", accused me of being an "activist", saying I failed cause I didn't follow SN "protocols….
For a forum offering support, y'all were clearly NOT doing that.
Let the troll explain….

I have a medical condition called gastroparesis. My stomach is 85% paralyzed. Fasting times for me are incredibly different from normal because contents remain in my stomach 85% longer than the norm. Tht being said, I absorb through the stomach incredibly slow. If I take medication, it takes up to 3-4 hours to start working & I need a considerably higher dose than the recommended ones. I researched it at great length taking into consideration the half life of the SN, as well as the antiemetics. Also calculating my gastric emptying with absorption rated to ensure that the method would be successful. I didn't fail because I didn't follow the "protocol". I failed because there is absolutely no way to accurately calculate or measure the amount/potency with my medical condition. I also have AI, in which my body does not produce cortisol. If you don't know what that is, then there is no way for you to be able to understand why or how I determined the formula I used. I'll say again….everyone is different, this is NOT one size fits all, and it is most certainly NOT guaranteed. I am not trying to troll or give misinformation. I'm telling my experience associated with the way my body functions.
Taking all that into consideration, makes my experience far from flawed. It makes the protocol flawed because it gives absolutely NO consideration to such obstacles that absolutely need to account for changes & major modifications.

I'm not encouraging or discouraging anything here. Failing was devastating to me. Extremely. I'm very sick & I suffer greatly. Waking up in the ICU was pretty awful to say the least. Read on in the thread on more explanation to my experience. I'm offering genuine advice & correct information as a helpful tool. NOT to cause any encouragement or lack there of…..

Thank you.
Hey @Mav firstly I didn't see your previous post that you are referring to. I am just going off what you have written in this post. I'm sorry people assumed you were a troll 😔. I think people may have jumped to conclusions as there have been people determined to upset the apple cart. Also numerous bad press for this site I think puts everyone on edge and people can get a little defensive. With methods you are correct in that nothing is 💯 guaranteed. SN does seem to be a favourite on here. Its not too difficult to access as a method and it doesn't seem as daunting to knock back some meds and salty water in comparison to other methods. In my opinion anyway.

I am very aware of gastroparesis. I haven't been officially diagnosed but doctors told me way back when I was a teenager that my system is very slow. I hardly used to eat anything and basically lived off smoothies. Anyway I won't bore you with all my digestive issues etc. I will say that I have a lot of empathy for your situation. This really worries me. As this is my preferred method. And psychology I have set my mind on this.
Does this mean you are abandoning this method completely?
Once again I'm sorry you had a traumatic experience with waking up in ICU etc.
 
SummerSolesLongLost

SummerSolesLongLost

Member
Feb 20, 2025
21
Some with gastroparesis should not even try SN, Pretty sure the PPH mentions this. Look into inert gas that will do the trick.
 

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