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suicidall

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May 19, 2020
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i really need to do this. i'm not fine. it has been more then five years I have to deal with all this pain that never goes away.
 
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Despondent

Despondent

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Dec 20, 2019
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I don't think there's really any methods that guarantee ctb without pain.

There are methods where some won't be as painful as others.
 
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suicidall

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May 19, 2020
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I don't think there's really any methods that guarantee ctb without pain.

There are methods where some won't be as painful as others.

I bought a rope. I read that hanging, it takes 3 minutes to die. (sorry for my english, it's not my born language)
 
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LMLN

Paragon
Aug 10, 2019
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I guess N, but it is very hard to get it, and it's expensive.
 
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Living sucks

Forced out of life before I wanted to leave
Mar 27, 2020
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You really have to research the methods for yourself and decide .
Start by reading here

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/resource-compilation.3/
 
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TheSkyIsBlue

Student
May 16, 2020
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Helium. I don't know how to obtain it however.
 
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Emily123

Arcanist
May 28, 2019
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N is a apinless method but it is not possible to find the medicine
 
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GirlBye

Member
Apr 13, 2020
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I'm not sure N is 100% painless. After doing my own research i found in some cases ( like when giving the death penalty to prisoners) one guy said he could feel it burning through his veins. That sort of put me off N as an option, but either way as people have said its very hard to obtain and expensive.
 
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Aap

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Apr 26, 2020
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Many medicines can burn when given via IV (toradol, propofol, etc.); it's just the way it is. In the grand scheme of things, it is mild discomfort. N tastes bad and doesn't burn orally. Via IV, given the amounts or concentrations used, it probably is slightly more uncomfortable than propofol. You are talking about seconds of potential mild discomfort and then sleep.
 
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autumnal

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Feb 4, 2020
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I'm not sure N is 100% painless. After doing my own research i found in some cases ( like when giving the death penalty to prisoners) one guy said he could feel it burning through his veins. That sort of put me off N as an option, but either way as people have said its very hard to obtain and expensive.

I'm not 100% certain, but if I recall correctly the incident you mention was not caused by the pentobarbital itself, but was due to inadequate dosage of either or both of the first two drugs (pentobarbital and muscle relaxant) in the three drug protocol. This error accidentally left the prisoner conscious and non-paralysed to experience the painful effects of the third heart-stopping drug (potassium chloride).

But to be blunt, even if it had been a rare side effect of injecting the pentobarbital itself, N would still remain the absolute gold standard of painless suicide methods. As @Aap mentions, N is usually taken orally, so injection pain is largely irrelevant. But even if you did for some reason choose to inject it, it is just a mild local discomfort before the blissful and painless unconsciousness that N provides. Frankly, short of getting a medical team to give you a full general anaesthetic before they ended your life, absolutely nothing beats it for peacefulness.
 
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Icunurse

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May 20, 2020
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I knew someone who took a syringe pump home- filled it with tramadol, propofol and a paralysing agent to stop him breathing.. I hope the propofol knocked him out.. who knows what's painless?? Watching last 24 hours of Amy Winehouse- I think getting a blood alcohol of above 0.5 sounds like a fairly ok option but you may vomit??
 
newfernicher

newfernicher

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Apr 5, 2020
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How about SN? I read you become unconscious and dont feel anything. Although it could be frightening drinking it and waiting to pass out. Requires great motivation.
 
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Icunurse

Icunurse

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May 20, 2020
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How about SN? I read you become unconscious and dont feel anything. Although it could be frightening drinking it and waiting to pass out. Requires great motivation.
I just read the tread that someone put on watching someone die with sn, sounded painful
 
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pthnrdnojvsc

Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
Aug 12, 2019
2,649
I just read the tread that someone put on watching someone die with sn, sounded painful
I don't think that a single person typing something on the internet should be taken as the definitive statement about SN when there are many more cases saying the opposite that SN is not painful but painless.

In this podcast on 5/17/20 , The author of the Peaceful Pill handbook Philip Nitschke says that they at exit international have received many eye witness SN ctb reports. Philip Nitschke said all the SN ctb reports show no signs of pain at all. So this further confirms what some of us saw on this website Sanctioned Suicide from these 16 cases of the SN ctb attempt survivors who all said that the SN method is painLess : Link is here: SN failures (16 cases).

This is the podcast:



Furthermore he says in the podcast that "SN is the new nembutal the holy grail".

I agree with with PN imo SN is painLess.
How about SN? I read you become unconscious and dont feel anything
 
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newfernicher

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Apr 5, 2020
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I just read the tread that someone put on watching someone die with sn, sounded painful
I just read the tread that someone put on watching someone die with sn, sounded painful
Damn I was going to buy soon. then I guess nitrogen and hellium are best choices. perhaps all these ways would be painfull. My brother overdosed with morphine years ago. But I saved him. He had passed out and there were scars on his chest, his body had struggled to wake him up by scratching his skin.
 
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Aap

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Apr 26, 2020
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Not quite sure what you meant by your last sentence. If there were scars, they by definition were not associated with his OD. Likewise, the body can't manifest cuts on itself. I'm not sure if you were trying to say he scratched himself (with his fingers). He may have simPly been scratching away the blissful morphine fairies that itch when they dance on your skin.
 
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newfernicher

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Apr 5, 2020
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Not quite sure what you meant by your last sentence. If there were scars, they by definition were not associated with his OD. Likewise, the body can't manifest cuts on itself. I'm not sure if you were trying to say he had scratched himself (with his fing. He may have simPly been scratching away the blissful morphine fairies that itch when they dance on your skin.
Yes sorry English is not my mother tongue. He had scratched himself with his fingers while being unconscious, like the body was struggling (survival instinct). There was skin under his nails. I did mouth to mouth rescusitation, his lungs were empty no heart beat. Mouth and fingers had become dark. After a few tries his hearbeat cameback and mom called the ambulance. They said he definitely is going to have brain damage but he came out totally fine lol .
 
Alain

Alain

Student
Mar 11, 2020
107
How about SN? I read you become unconscious and dont feel anything. Although it could be frightening drinking it and waiting to pass out. Requires great motivation.
It seems very random depending on people. Some people say the pain is tolerable, others say it's a horrible way to CTB. If you live in EU, you will probably won't even have access to SN anyway as it's a regulated chemical.
I would recommend Helium or Nitrogen, but again, it's hard to get. I mean you can get helium easily but it will be a mix of air and helium and it may just leave you brain damages. If you can find pure inert gas such as helium or nitrogen, and if you can built a setup, I think it's the best way to leave without pain.
 
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4eyebiped

Mage
Dec 28, 2019
567
Is death was easy and painless I imagine the population would easily be halved, if not more. The environment appreciate that at least.
 
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braketimez

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Mar 15, 2020
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Is death was easy and painless I imagine the population would easily be halved, if not more. The environment appreciate that at least.

Yeah, and the members of this forum wouldn't exist
 
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Winston

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May 7, 2020
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I understand that as pellets from a shotgun plow faster than the speed of sound through your brain stem, death is instantaneous- no time to feel pain. I'm counting on that theory. But not the cinematic, "under the chin." Has to be through the mouth.
 
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SpottedPanda

SpottedPanda

I'm all about coffee and cigarettes
Jul 24, 2019
612
I wish I had access to powerful firearms for suicide use, though living in the UK, it's practically impossible
 
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newfernicher

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Apr 5, 2020
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It seems very random depending on people. Some people say the pain is tolerable, others say it's a horrible way to CTB. If you live in EU, you will probably won't even have access to SN anyway as it's a regulated chemical.
I would recommend Helium or Nitrogen, but again, it's hard to get. I mean you can get helium easily but it will be a mix of air and helium and it may just leave you brain damages. If you can find pure inert gas such as helium or nitrogen, and if you can built a setup, I think it's the best way to leave without pain.
I live in Iran. I have access to SN and nitrogen and hellium. There are websites that sell these. I first was thinking about nitrogen but then in seems the setup is difficult to prepare. Like the mask and tube and the gas pressure. So I thought SN would be easier and safer. I would prefer to go by nitrogen if I can find an easy setting for it.
 
Alain

Alain

Student
Mar 11, 2020
107
I understand that as pellets from a shotgun plow faster than the speed of sound through your brain stem, death is instantaneous- no time to feel pain. I'm counting on that theory. But not the cinematic, "under the chin." Has to be through the mouth.
I know it sounds dumb, but I fear that method more than any other methods. I always imagine that the moment my face/skull/brain is being destroyed lasts forever in my point of view. You know, like if I would be stuck in this moment with all the pain for a very long time, like a super slowmotion. Scientifically it's just super stupid and I know it's a non-sense. Maybe I over fear any possible pain...

I live in Iran. I have access to SN and nitrogen and hellium. There are websites that sell these. I first was thinking about nitrogen but then in seems the setup is difficult to prepare. Like the mask and tube and the gas pressure. So I thought SN would be easier and safer. I would prefer to go by nitrogen if I can find an easy setting for it.
I totally get what you mean here. The setup seams complicated to make it yourself. I know I can't do anything right with my hands, I'm too clumsy, so I would fear to make it wrong.
But I think it would worse the try to learn how to make it and make it right, if I had access to good quality helium.
 
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Alec

Wizard
Apr 22, 2019
681
It seems very random depending on people. Some people say the pain is tolerable, others say it's a horrible way to CTB. If you live in EU, you will probably won't even have access to SN anyway as it's a regulated chemical.
I would recommend Helium or Nitrogen, but again, it's hard to get. I mean you can get helium easily but it will be a mix of air and helium and it may just leave you brain damages. If you can find pure inert gas such as helium or nitrogen, and if you can built a setup, I think it's the best way to leave without pain.
Wait what? Who told you SN is a regulated chemical in EU? I'm in EU and I bought it just fine from another EU based seller(just in another EU country, it was shipped into my EU country so it went through borders between EU countries and everything was fine) and it arrived just fine no problems. Plus I've heard of others in EU buying it without problems, even people on this site told about their successful experience of buying SN in EU.
 
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Alain

Student
Mar 11, 2020
107
Wait what? Who told you SN is a regulated chemical in EU? I'm in EU and I bought it just fine from another EU based seller(just in another EU country, it was shipped into my EU country so it went through borders between EU countries and everything was fine) and it arrived just fine no problems. Plus I've heard of others in EU buying it without problems, even people on this site told about their successful experience of buying SN in EU.
I'm VERY interested. Could you please send me the link so I can order SN there too? I am in France btw, maybe laws are more restrictive than in your country. But if I can order SN from any other EU country and get it delivered, I would be dumb to not try to.
 
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lifeisbutadream

Warlock
Oct 4, 2018
722
It seems very random depending on people. Some people say the pain is tolerable, others say it's a horrible way to CTB. If you live in EU, you will probably won't even have access to SN anyway as it's a regulated chemical.
I would recommend Helium or Nitrogen, but again, it's hard to get. I mean you can get helium easily but it will be a mix of air and helium and it may just leave you brain damages. If you can find pure inert gas such as helium or nitrogen, and if you can built a setup, I think it's the best way to leave without pain.


"I would recommend Helium or Nitrogen, but again, it's hard to get. ..."

Nitrogen is not hard to get. It is used for many purposes and it is, possibly unlike party balloon helium nowadays, sold pure. True though you need to build a setup, but that is fairly simple.
 
Chalken

Chalken

Decaying
Nov 20, 2018
214
Honestly, a minute or less of pain to avoid years of pain doesn't sound that bad.
 
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