Does it really get better?

[Baskol1]

Many people say you should never commit suicide, because it could always get better. And it will definitely get better in the future. But is this really the truth? Or is this only true for healthy people? How exactly will it get better? What if you have an disease that cant be cured? Or even a disability? Why cant it get worse? Because of optimistic delusions? Or why does is always get better? Is anyone older here, and did it get better?

 

[TheGoodGuy]

It only got worse for me year after year because of physical problems I can literally say that in 1 year my health will be worse the same in 2 years, 5 years etc. and the same the other way that if I go back 1 year my health will be better, 2 years 5 years and so on. It didn´t get better for me just worse and will continue to do so

 

[Baskol1]

It only got worse for me year after year because of physical problems I can literally say that in 1 year my health will be worse the same in 2 years, 5 years etc. and the same the other way that if I go back 1 year my health will be better, 2 years 5 years and so on. It didn´t get better for me just worse and will continue to do so

Exactly, especially if youre older than 30 or 40 your health will always get worse.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

Exactly, especially if youre older than 30 or 40 your health will always get worse.

I am 25 but I have worse health than my 82 year old grandpa (I am not kidding)

 

[Baskol1]

I am 25 but I have worse health than my 82 year old granpa (I am not kidding)

Yes, not everyone is that lucky, there are 100 years old who still work, and terminally ill 20 year olds. Life is extremely unfair.

 

[Final Escape]

Many people say you should never commit suicide, because it could always get better. And it will definitely get better in the future. But is this really the truth? Or is this only true for healthy people? How exactly will it get better? What if you have an disease that cant be cured? Or even a disability? Why cant it get worse? Because of optimistic delusions? Or why does is always get better? Is anyone older here, and did it get better?

It can get better but not if u are not getting help in some way. I'm realizing my biggest problem has been the lack of insight into bad mental habits, addiction, self centeredness. Not having relationships, support network. I wish I had known sooner about the programs like NA, AA. Just because u are functional and seem to have it together does not mean u aren't an addict. Like even if u don't feel u are abusing a substance but u isolate, and have bad mental habits. If I did not start going to these meetings I probably would have ctb by now because I didn't understand what is going on with me. Many people in the addiction meetings bring up their illnesses they are struggling with. They seem to still be happy though and greatful.

Exactly, especially if youre older than 30 or 40 your health will always get worse.

Or it could get better. There was a 30 something diabetic man at a addiction meeting the other day. He's trying to change his diet habits to be able to stop having to use insulin. It was really inspiring to listen to him talk yesterday about his struggles.

 

[StillWaiting]

Don't feel that it will ever get better anymore.
Nothing feels real to me ever since a few years ago.
Waking up to do things while looking forward to bed time. Everyday the same thing repeats until it becomes so scary to think that tomorrow will come if I don't ctb

 

[Baskol1]

Don't feel that it will ever get better anymore.
Nothing feels real to me ever since a few years ago.
Waking up to do things while looking forward to bed time. Everyday the same thing repeats until it becomes so scary to think that tomorrow will come if I don't ctb

Did you know that some suicide prevention advocates actually commited suicide? Ironic.

 

[StillWaiting]

Did you know that some suicide prevention advocates actually commited suicide? Ironic.

I don't know that actually. Never really called suicide helpline or get close to any of those suicide prevention advocates.
Wonder what are their actual reasons to ctb.

 

[Baskol1]

I don't know that actually. Never really called suicide helpline or get close to any of those suicide prevention advocates.
Wonder what are their actual reasons to ctb.

They realized its a lie, its bullshit, all the platitudes are bullshit.

 

[StillWaiting]

They realized its a lie, its bullshit, all the platitudes are bullshit.

Can kinda understand why.
I feel that I no longer believe life is worth suffering for after spending time thinking about life.
People always tell me to look at the bright side of life. It is hard when you just feel so trapped.
Realized you are spending your whole life trying to earn money to keep yourself alive for the sake of being alive.

 

[Baskol1]

Can kinda understand why.
I feel that I no longer believe life is worth suffering for after spending time thinking about life.
People always tell me to look at the bright side of life. It is hard when you just feel so trapped.
Realized you are spending your whole life trying to earn money to keep yourself alive for the sake of being alive.

Many people arent actually that happy.

 

[StillWaiting]

Many people arent actually that happy.

But most people accept that it is a way of life?

 

[Baskol1]

But most people accept that it is a way of life?

Most people dont commit suicide. They just accept it, yes.

 

[JoeFailure]

Many people say you should never commit suicide, because it could always get better. And it will definitely get better in the future. But is this really the truth? Or is this only true for healthy people? How exactly will it get better? What if you have an disease that cant be cured? Or even a disability? Why cant it get worse? Because of optimistic delusions? Or why does is always get better? Is anyone older here, and did it get better?

There's no real answer to this. It can get better or it can get worse or stay the same. I'm 35 and never even thought about CTB until about 5 months ago.

My honest opinion is that with your youth you should try. If nothing else, your 20's can be the best time of your life and you could always CTB later on in life. I'd give anything to have my 20's back.

 

[Baskol1]

There's no real answer to this. It can get better or it can get worse or stay the same. I'm 35 and never even thought about CTB until about 5 months ago.

My honest opinion is that with your youth you should try. If nothing else, your 20's can be the best time of your life and you could always CTB later on in life. I'd give anything to have my 20's back.

Well not everyone is healthy in his 20s, yes most people are, im personally not.

 

[Blackjack]

Many people say you should never commit suicide, because it could always get better. And it will definitely get better in the future. But is this really the truth? Or is this only true for healthy people? How exactly will it get better? What if you have an disease that cant be cured? Or even a disability? Why cant it get worse? Because of optimistic delusions? Or why does is always get better? Is anyone older here, and did it get better?

Yes I'm older & no it didn't get better.

 

[262653]

Maybe you could predict the outcome of your life based on your conditions, by making an extensive research on some predictors, like degenerative diseases, body capabilities, country, familial welfare, I dunno. Hopefully it won't hurt to be prepared with a reliable method. It's like having a pension fund, a retreat plan, something to cover up from potential losses. I'd rely on emotions as to when, and on rationality as to how. Trust yourself, you know.

 

[oopswronglife]

I'm just repeating others' sentiments, but I always say to this "it might...it might not" which is completely unhelpful. Life really is one of those things you cannot predict and by the time you "know" it's over. That's an existential problem and bigger than any of us can solve.

We here tend to think it always gets worse because it has for us. People who have decent lives or who rebuilt after suffering tend to think it always gets better because it did for them. People are REALLY bad at not projecting their own experience in any situation, including life as a whole, as "the reality" in the big picture.

 

[JoeFailure]

Also, you can't really go by what you see here for a question like that. I don't think many people who's lives have gotten markedly better look for a pro-choice suicide forum to post on.

 

[TAW122]

I think it's bullshit mainly and just stuff people spew/parrot off without thinking. Yes, while it is true that things can and do get better (for a lot of people), it is no guarantee that it will for everyone. Sometimes, things can only get worse, like others have said and those people simply just cope until they are unable to anymore, which in that case then they CTB. I myself, things did get better, but it could certainly have taken a turn for the other way as well. I am mainly just sticking around because things haven't gotten to that "point" where I would CTB and my circumstances as of now as still salvageable, which allows me to live a bit longer.

 

[JimFord99]

Life has gotten worse for me too, years ago slowly but increasing. With time passing by the pace increased, now I have reached the breaking point. You all will probably experience the same.

 

[HGL91]

When my car was totaled, people said, "The important thing is that you are okay!" And I couldn't help but wish I got totaled like my car did, because life has gotten worse and worse.

 

[JimFord99]

Thing is, they say it could get better. This statement already includes the optional 'no it won't ' just by adding the word 'could'.
Why does someone says something like that? No idea.

 

[TheFinalCountdown]

For me things have only ever gotten worse over time. A part of me has always believed that things would get better but I've been proven wrong too often and for too long. I realise now that should have killed myself a long time ago

 

[sadsadinfp]

Depends on what the problems are that led you to consider this, I think, as well as temperament, family circumstances, etc.

For me since the first time I considered suicide (13) there have been about... two good years, but the rest have all been terrible. If I'd just done it at 13 I'd only have one regret, that I wouldn't have met my one really nice friend R. at university, but unfortunately we're both very shy and anxious people and we haven't even texted in about 9 months, so even that's not a completely happy thought. Obviously for some people though it does get better, so never say never, I guess.

 

[k75]

I think that for some people, it can get better, even if it doesn't feel like it now. That's why I think it's good to exhaust every other option first, before deciding to ctb.

Sometimes, there's a fixable explanation behind the urges, like a hormone imbalance or even vitamin deficiency. Low vitamin D levels actually do make you suicidal and depressed, and so do low thyroid hormones (I know both from experience). And those are totally curable.

But sometimes it's not a correctable situation. People do have chronic or terminal illnesses that won't get better, and there are bad situations that just get worse. Trauma, physical conditions... A lot of things just won't get better.

Anyway, I've been trying everything I possibly can to make sure I can't fix this, because I really wish it didn't have to end this way. But sadly, nothing has worked and I'm just spiraling deeper. It's nearing the end for me. At least I know it's not an impulsive decision. Sometimes, I break down and want to act right away, but I resist the urges because I know I need to be clearheaded when I actually do it. And there are things I want to wrap up first.

 

[k3v3r]

it depends, for some people things might get better. You can never be completely sure

 

[Midnight]

Depends on so many factors about each person individually that's it's impossible to predict. For some it does for some it doesn't. Also you are talking about the future ... There's no way of telling what the future will hold.

There's only one option to find out if it was worth it or not and that's to stick arround. If you feel the odd's are against you and you don't wish to find out well then there is also the other option.

If there ever existed a way to know many would have died already and perhaps some would be still arround.

 

[JimFord99]

This is either living a little peace of freedom you have in a rat cage or escaping forever to this unknown 'what comes next'. For myself, I am done with the cage. Since I decided to deck myself my depression and anxiety has decreased a little bit.