Does getting help actually work?

[LIGHT00129]

I was just wondering for the people who went to therapy, got medication etc whether that did help in any way? I have got to the point where I am too tired of this and I can only see ctb as the way out. But am I stupid for at least not talking to someone and trying to get help idk? I just don't want to go through with talking to someone and it doesn't help and where I haven't spoken to someone ever, it feels normal to feel this way, which is why I haven't really thought to get 'help' as silly as it sounds. Thanks

 

[LighthouseHermit]

It didn't for me, and I've been treated since I could talk. But every person is different. If it's an option, you could always try. If it doesn't work for you, you can always stop.

 

[TBONTB]

I've had it help, and had it not help. Definitely worth a try.

 

[Haematemesis]

If you have one shot in life and going to die anyway why not try this alleged professional support?

Try it and even if that doesn't work for you this site will welcome you with open arms.

 

[LastNite]

For me no. For you maybe. Talking for some people helps a lot. In fact a lot of people who commit suicide just needed a talk and someone to listen to them. But theres also another type of people who never see improvement after therapy. Therapy itself is meant to lift your mood up, show you that theres someone who cares, and supports you. A therapist can give you ideas on how to improve your quality of life but they can never actually change anything. For example my life is fucked. I wont get into how it is fucked. But it just is. Somehow my therapist thinks going outside more will help me or talking to people will. She thinks because Im always awkward and silent that I hate my life. Thats not true at all. That part of my life is bothersome but it's fixable and I dont mind it much. I just dont care to fix it. Theres other problems which I can never fix that I didnt tell her about. What's annoying with therapy is your feelings. You'll eventually get a feeling that it's useless or just a lie. I've always felt like it's a cash grab. I got insurance and I plan on soon to stop going there because I was forced there in the first place when I first took a try at going when I was 16. Ive been going for years but I dont really feel any connection. It's not the therapist it's just my life. She'll never admit Im fucked which is why I plan on not going anymore.


I wont tell you to make a decision but ask yourself how it could help before trying. And for medication if you have major depressive disorder like me then probably no. Nothing helped in fact most of them hurt me physically. Cymbalta put me in a spot where I genuinely want to grab a knife and gush out my guts when I tried to quit it. The withdrawals from it were not easy. My psychiatrist didnt help taper it at all even when I asked she said yes but still didnt send in anything.

 

[LighthouseHermit]

On a suicide forum, I think most of the answers you will get will be no. A lot of people here were damaged by the mental health system.

 

[Hollowman]

Helps some people and kills others. I was on an antipsychotic and I read through the pamphlet in the samples I was given. At the end of the long list of side effects it said sudden unexplained death was possible. I wish that would've happened.

 

[dust-in-the-wind]

Never helped me but everyone is different. It's worth you trying.

 

[itsgone2]

I mean it really depends on why you're there but why not try it, like others have suggested.

I first went about 20 years ago after a surgery that went wrong. So there were physical issues I had and it caused a lot of pain. No one can really help that. So how much can they really do in that situation? I've had other things like a divorce was it was more helpful. The divorce was sad but ultimately just something to process and they helped with that.
But now I'm in an actual bad spot again. It's been triggered first by my company being sold and knowing I'll eventually lose my job. But there are other things i haven't discussed here yet. Regardless, can they save my job? Of course not. So can they help? Not really. They give me meds but what's the point?
Sorry for ranting.

 

[dhk96]

For some, I guess. You have to find the right medication that works for you (this process is Hell and can make things feel worse in the short term) and couple that with intensive therapy with the right people. Who you choose to work with for treatment is very important because there are a lot of horrible and incompetent people working in the mental health field.

The medication won't forcibly make you happy and neither will the therapy, but they're there to provide you with tools to help make living life easier. For some people, that's enough to keep them going. But the whole process is potentially long and strenuous.

You ultimately have to want to 'get better' or have some hope that you can 'get better.' Better in the sense that you might start thinking "all right, let's keep trying since I'm still here and sticking around isn't as bad as it used to be."

Personally, I don't have any hope in myself. I thought I could at least become someone who wants to get better but I can't. I know that my desire to be free from consciousness will always be wired in me, and that I'll never think that I truly want to "keep trying." Having to think/feel or experience anything, even moments of happiness, is insufferable so I'm not going to chase after "what ifs" and "things that are worth living for."

Maybe you have some desire to get better. Or at least some hope of becoming someone that wants to get better (even if it's difficult to envision a positive future). I can't say that medication/therapy will definitely help, especially since my limited experience with medication and therapy has only been bad, but if you're curious and want to try anything you can, it might be worth a shot. Just be aware of any risks and to not 'overshare' with the wrong people.

Whatever decision you make is respectable and yours to make.

 

[copioushopelessness]

Helps some people and kills others. I was on an antipsychotic and I read through the pamphlet in the samples I was given. At the end of the long list of side effects it said sudden unexplained death was possible. I wish that would've happened.

How did you get off of it? Was it hard?

 

[areyousafe??]

The answer is likely "no" because of the people you are asking. I suppose the people who have had it help them wouldn't be on a suicide forum.

Antidepressants definitely helped me when I initially started on them. My only regret is that I didn't combine it with talk therapy, I've only recently starting seeing a psychologist.

Definitely give it a go! The antidepressants I started on helped to lift my mood and I didn't experience any side effects on them.

 

[StrawberryBlood]

I have been in therapy and medicated for years and I can say that it has helped, but I still feel like I'm hanging by a thread. So, it didn't save me, but it hasn't killed me either. Always consider the financial side of this if you are American and don't qualify for government insurance.

 

[Pale_Rider]

I think I am more stable after starting therapy. No meds. I still think about CTB, but my experiences. My ability to CTB has definitely been diminished. Not gonna lie, life sucks, I'm still broken, but I guess those deep torrential emotions are more stable then they were. There still do spin up occasionally, or more.

 

[nihilistkaze7]

i would highly recommend going down that path before CTB. you have nothing to lose if you are going to anyways.

 

[CumbriaCTB]

If you see CTB as the only way out then therapy isn't going to work. They always say that you have to "want to get better" but they never tell you how to actually want to get better... you have to just want it? Very confusing. You've also said you don't want talk about it so it's going to be a pain when you inevitably have to talk to and later drop the shit therapists every couple of weeks until you find the rare therapist who can actually do their job - that can get disheartening very quick. Oh, and if you're in a socialised healthcare system (e.g. NHS in the UK) or a rural area with one (1) therapist within driving distance then you're stuck with whoever you're given even if they're terrible at their job.

As for "wanting to get better", do you have a family? Friends? Anyone you care about at all? Those who drone on about "internal motivation" are full of shit and either take their friends & family for granted or have drank the hyperindividualism kool-aid. At this stage, your motivation needs to be external and if you don't have that (friends & family) then it's not going to work. After all, what's the point of going through all of that effort if you could just CTB? It's called the "easy way out" for a reason... why not take the "permanent solution to a temporary problem [and all of the other problems that inevitably come after]" if there's nobody in your life to be hurt by your death?

If you have (non-abusive) friends & family then, sweet, there's your motivation to go to therapy. If you don't... you should still go to therapy. Why? I feel as if the above is best experienced personally because that way I've described my frustration with trying to do therapy without an external support network really doesn't do it justice with regards to how bad it actually is. It really is something you ought to experience yourself.

Sincerely,
CumbriaCTB

 

[PotentiallyWasted]

Maybe the people that it has helped aren't here anymore because they know that if they want to get better this isn't the best site to be on?

 

[Spicy Tteokbokki]

I tried various forms of help, but the problem arises when I get help for the wrong diagnosis' or for the wrong problems, completely ignoring the root cause of my suffering.
If I got proper help tacking my ADHD, Autism and lived in a peaceful safe area and got help to process almost two decades of trauma both at home, school and outside, and had enough money to not worry about feeding myself properly, then sure, I bet I'd feel quite good overall and very happy.

But all the help I've gotten focused on the wrong things, so it's only harmed me further, with one exception where I had a psychologist who did actually try to work with me on the things that did matter.

 

[PI3.14]

Unfortunately, not. I still recommend giving it a shot though, especially if you plan to CTB.

 

[concession]

It is not about just talking with someone it is about wanting to work on yourself and improve.
Good specialist will help you to know yourself better and detect harmful patterns. Then you can gradually (will not happen over a month or two) learn how to deal with this better. You still need to work on yourself though.

Bad specialist will put you on some shit that will help short-term and then you will get anything from just drug that stopped working to full-blown lifelong destructive addiction.

 

[Irisse]

Meds helped me regarding psychosis but my wish for death is still here. I do believe one should try it and see if it works for them.

 

[Fish_astronaut]

I actually think therapy and medication is helpful for emotional depression once you find the right combo. I am doing both and feel better overall. It has really helped me process some trauma I have been carrying forever. That said, it has done nothing for my nihilism, in fact has actually increased it, which I think is just how my brain and heart work. I still want to CTB for existential reasons. I do not feel like the suffering of life is worth it and I genuinely do not think therapy will change that. Just my experience.

 

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[plan c]

I happen to have one strange idea on this... getting help is not guaranteed to work, just like how listing all the DEs don't always guarantee analytical solutions. I don't know where this analogy comes from, but to me MH care provides some temporary fixes and makeshifts I can recourse to rather than a total or perfect "recovery". (Just like getting some special-case solutions and building some intuition instead of pulling of the entire assortment of DEs all at once)

And to this extent I suppose it's hard to decide if it did fix me. or did it not? i dunno

im in a funny state of mind today. don't mind me if my words do not keep track of where my head is

 

[Unknown21]

I don't think this is the right place for this question buddy.

 

[grey.skye]

It's worth trying! I'm still struggling but it has helped plenty of people before. I'm sorry you're also in a hard place but you're worthy of having help and support. Nobody should have to go through this alone the recovery forum also has a lot of resources

 

[losingsteam3141]

Think it depends. For some people, having a new perspective on their lives might help. In addition, medication may help any chemical imbalance, but for others, nothing really helps.

For me, its situational and the situation I am in is spiraling downwards. I am talking to a counselor as well as a psychiatrist, but nothing can do will change the fact that any chance of salvaging a good life may be over.

 

[moonmuse]

it helps a little yes

 

[Off_Switch]

Once we've gotten to this point, I think it's pretty safe to say that imany relief would be temporary, at best.

 

[Steve Vermont]

I was just wondering for the people who went to therapy, got medication etc whether that did help in any way? I have got to the point where I am too tired of this and I can only see ctb as the way out. But am I stupid for at least not talking to someone and trying to get help idk? I just don't want to go through with talking to someone and it doesn't help and where I haven't spoken to someone ever, it feels normal to feel this way, which is why I haven't really thought to get 'help' as silly as it sounds. Thanks

Therapy and benzos and esc have kept me alive for ten years, so I'd say yes. Granted, I almost killed myself two weeks ago, but still.