Does age matter?

[Bodydysmorphia34]

Is there a "too young for suicide"?

I'm 23 and I don't want anymore but some people be like "you're so young, life will get better". I feel like life will only get worse the older I get, your health decreases, you become lonelier and my bodydysmorphia will probably only get worse

 

[Division Day]

There is, but 23 isn't necessarily it.

I knew suicidal people who were 13 or 14 who did get better and are glad to be alive. But the older you get, the more likely you are what you are.

 

[WAITING TO DIE]

The suicide fairy doesn't discriminate who it touches as regards age, and even more suffering is guaranteed the older we become.
Just because someone is young doesn't mean they should live if they are going through unbearable suffering.

 

[sserafim]

Is there a "too young for suicide"?

I'm 23 and I don't want anymore but some people be like "you're so young, life will get better". I feel like life will only get worse the older I get, your health decreases, you become lonelier and my bodydysmorphia will probably only get worse

I'm 23 as well and I honestly think this is as good as it gets. I'm planning to ctb before 25 maximum. I never wanted to become an adult or live past 18 anyways, and I think that once you reach adulthood, life just goes downhill from there. I would hate to have to get old and have my health and mental capacity/cognition decrease. I also think that life only gets worse as you get older. I honestly see nothing good about adulthood, middle age or old age. I never wanted to grow up and I think it's sad that I did. I think the people who say "life will get better" are preaching false hope and optimism. There's no guarantee that it will, they can't see the future. Life could get better, but it could also get worse. There's potential for things to go either way.

 

[skaro]

The suicide fairy doesn't discriminate who it touches as regards age, and even more suffering is guaranteed the older we become.
Just because someone is young doesn't mean they should live if they are going through unbearable suffering.

I still feel like the younger you are, the more likely you are to make impulse decisions without properly thinking things through though. I know some people who admitted they were very suicidal for a while when they were younger but they're nothing like that today, so. Personally for me, things didn't really get much better yet (hence the reason I'm on this forum) but I know that for alot of people it does, so

 

[Moniker]

I think it's one of the better points that gets raised, but only goes so far. I believe the potential for things to get better is worth considering, but I'm sure most people are already doing that.

I'm also a young guy and, as I see it, my life is awful right now. There are decades worth of potential moments where my life could turn around. However, would any rational person endure constant suffering for the sake of some vague possible future where things improve? Mind you, improvement isn't even guaranteed to happen. Still, that's just my perspective. If someone else thinks life gets better and chooses to trek on, more power to them.

 

[ForgottenAgain]

I'm 29 and my life was at its worse between 14 and 20.
In terms of my life, it did improve quite a bit with adulthood. Actually, one thing I used to tell people was that my life started at 24, when I was able to be independent, have my own place and my rules.

Having said that, I'm not happy. I'm not suffering as deeply as I was and now I am in control of things. Also with age comes more capacity to deal with bullshit that comes along the way, but you're not unbreakable.

So, for me personally, I'm glad I didn't ctb when I was younger because I would have never experienced having my own place and getting the job I wanted. However, I'm not doing good.

 

[fuyu]

When I was younger, someone in my class killed themselves at 14.
I think the question has many answers. If you have faith in getting better, you sure have a lot of time ahead of you. Maybe it all depends on how you consider death? But yeah, the "healthiest" point of view would be that if you're willing to give up anyway, you can just give a chance to living, instead of ctb at 25% of your lifespan

 

[Kobusu]

Is there a "too young for suicide"?

I'm 23 and I don't want anymore but some people be like "you're so young, life will get better". I feel like life will only get worse the older I get, your health decreases, you become lonelier and my bodydysmorphia will probably only get worse

Hmmm I'd say just like with everything in life, your age and experience play a part. I am also 23, and I've both felt that I was too young and that I had waited too long at times. There have equally been times I'm glad I have waited so long. The truth is, it's complicated. There's much more to it than that, but at the same time, that's all there really is. It is just very complicated.

 

[FuneralCry]

Nobody is obligated to continue suffering in this existence they were burdened with in the first place, I don't believe that people should be punished by being forced to suffer simply because other people were selfish enough to so cruelly procreate.

And anyway the decision to die is a personal decision, not something for other people to decide, I cannot stand those people with their delusional life is a "gift" views who refuse to accept suicide as a valid option, they repulse me.

I believe the less time spent trapped in this existence the better, I'd personally always view it as preferable to not exist as death is the absence of all suffering, nobody can be harmed by not existing yet there is no limit as to how much we can suffer in this existence.

I see death as a relief and for me suicide means self care, I'm close to turning 23 and it really feels like I've been stuck here for such a long time. I'm not "young" I believe even one second existing as a conscious being is one second too long, only never existing is true perfection to me.

 

[HollowDrop]

Life is unpredictable, good and bad changes and events can happen. I feel it's logical to encourage the young to keep going and hold onto any hope they have because you really never know what they might find in life. Especially because if you want to kill yourself anyway might as well go and do what you want and it might end up with you finding something new and good. Unless they are in so much mental or physical pain they really cannot enjoy anything anymore or they are subject of endless torture. When you are very young you're even more vulnerable to making rash decisions you can not take back, not only in terms of suicide but also crime and changing your body. Most people have done things as a kid they wish they could take back, and I'm also glad I didn't go through with some of my plans as a kid.
But like many things, it is quite situational to everyone's personal circumstances. Sometimes death would bring the peace someone needs regardless of age.

 

[Cress]

The thing with younger people is other people just like to impose their fantasies of the potential that they could have. There's a hilarious outlook that they have that Anyone could be a doctor or a rock star so to speak in their mind. However only if they end up taking their own life Or are considering it. Otherwise They will say that you need to be more conservative with your goals Being an artist or movie director or following your dreams Is risky.

After a recent rewatching of Tantacrul's video He went on and on about all the potential that he saw in one of his viewers that ended up catching the bus I don't think he ever once made the realization that if that person hadn't CTB Tantacrul Would have never interacted with him to such a degree. I don't know I feel like there's probably a way to go about pro life arguments I suppose but the way most people go about it are filled with hypocrisies

 

[Abandoned Character]

Well, the line is somewhere right? I wouldn't want a toddler to ctb...

 

[tranny123]

life gets harder and harder each year, i feel like you are never too young

 

[gbi2]

No the age doesn't matter but I think the younger the person is the more tragic it can be seen as, especially when it is a child who has done it because of bullying.
It is one thing to be a very mature adult and feel like there is no one to turn to, because there have been many choices along the way that the lack of options can be down to personal choices made, but when it is a child who felt they had to end it all, that they felt there was no-one who could help them, it leaves so many more questions unanswered, not least once the parents have made a statement saying how lovely their little boy or girl was.

 

[Forever Sleep]

It's impossible to say. None of us has a crystal ball. Things could get better. They could get a lot worse. For me, my 30's were better than my 20's. Just depends really on where you are now and where you'll be then. Personally, I think it has to be entirely up to the individual. You are the expert on you. No one else is living your life. No one else is going to have to put the work in if you want to change it. Personally, I hate it when people promise that everything will improve because- how the hell do they know?!! Still- things could improve. Really depends on whether you have hope left I suppose. Or- you feel the obligation to stay. In which case- it might be best to try and improve your situation as best you can.

 

[Rhizomorph1]

I don't think it is black and white. We absolutely do need to draw the line somewhere for pragmatic reasons (as another user mentioned, I wouldn't want a toddler to ctb). I think 18 is a pretty solid age to draw this line for neurobiological reasons, but there will undoubtedly be people who at the age of 18 probably shouldn't be ctb too. But then there are people who at age 18 have probably thought it through and people at age 30 who are too young.

Only you can really decide this, but this is the reason I encourage making as impartial of an assessment as possible. The world outside this forum will inundate you with pro-life rhetoric and those on this forum will inundate you with pro-ctb rhetoric.

Try your best to make your own decision and not let others' values influence you too much, would be my advice. Be wary of the biases on both this forum and offline. I would recommend spending some considerable personal time journaling to write down your feelings, the pros and cons of ctb and your method of choice, as well as planning, researching, etc. I've made a contract with myself to exhaust my options for recovery and spending a minimum of 6 months contemplating the decision to ensure it is not done hastily/in impaired mind.

To avoid premature ctb and ensure a dignified death, I absolutely believe a structured plan and serious introspection is needed, ideally free from the coercive influence of others and the impulsivity that mental illnesses can cause (not that mental illness is an invalid reason to ctb, but ideally you can plan in a frame of mind that is not spontaneously influenced by the illness in a given moment)

 

[Life'sA6itch]

Is there a "too young for suicide"?

I'm 23 and I don't want anymore but some people be like "you're so young, life will get better". I feel like life will only get worse the older I get, your health decreases, you become lonelier and my bodydysmorphia will probably only get

No, there is no too young for suicide. I wish my 1st attempt on the night of my 13th birthday worked. I was angry that I woke up, knew I was cheated out of escape and finding rest or relief at 13. There is something we're all given, intuition and it is not restricted by age. You know something (or multiple things are) is wrong, you already know the low likelihood of it getting better. My intuition was correct, the manure that is my life got worse and worse (abuse & neglect). Just speaking from personal experience.