Do you want to be saved?

[noname223]

I've read an "expert" about suicide forums in a news magazine. He told most people here don't really want to die instead they want to be saved. Only the minority would really want to end it. I think he speaks from somethings that occurs to many suicidal people.
Yes I would not ctb IF I had other options. I would even take mediocre alternatives to suicide. However all my options are truly horrible. I don't want to live this living nightmare.
Yes please give me 1 million dollar and a nice girlfriend. Maybe I will rethink my situation. I think my suicidality would not disappear but the decision might be another one.
But the truth is at least for me. Life is hard, life is very hard. Life often does not treat you fairly and the weakest in the society are screwed. Not every illness can be sufficiently cured. Sometimes medication does not work and therapists give you up.

Whereelse can I go when psychiatry gives me up. I don't need a pro-lifer that prohibits me to ctb or bans this forum. When life quality sucks over years and there is no improvement insight why not having the right to end it and find support here. Discuss with other people how life has tormented us and find ways to end it peacefully.

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

Yes please give me 1 million dollar and a nice girlfriend.

Best I can do is five dollars and an ugly boyfriend.

 

[LakatosDiogenesz]

If I wanted to be saved I'd post on a forum called Sanctioned Saved.

 

[FuneralCry]

I don't want to be saved. I think my desire to not exist is wired into my brain. Nothing can change it. I was born with neurological problems which made it hard for me to cope with this life. Apart from that I just see life as meaningless as we all just die anyway.

I dread the thought of old age. I just think for some people life just isn't for them, and therefore there should be more acceptance towards suicide and there should be peaceful ways out as it is cruel to make people suffer for decades. I want death to save me from this life and take me to eternal nothingness.

 

[IWantToSleep]

I'd guess a majority of suicidal people want to get better, but the whole point is they don't see themselves getting better/have any hope that they will.

 

[motel rooms]

I am already saved. Meet my personal Savior #blessed #saved

 

[WornOutLife]

Haha no, no way I want to be saved!
I was "saved" last year and only became more suicidal!

 

[Symbiote]

I've been "saved' multiple times only to fall back in the surging waters of life trying to strangle whatever soul I had left inside of me. Nowadays, I do not want to be saved. I want my family to just let go. I want others to let go and stop clinging on to me in an attempt to save me because I'll only let you down again....and again.

 

[MYStERY_Man]

Not yet. Curiously enough, after starting an attempt at recovery, which could indicate I'd like to be saved, I've been closer to CBTing than at any point in 2020.

 

[LastFlowers]

If there is no viable solution to the root issue, then no saving can be performed.
The problem is that other people want to define our definition of "help" and if it doesn't match up with our own, and we deny it, then they blame us and say we don't want to be "saved" or "helped".
They similarly believe they are "saving" people when they stop them from committing suicide, but do nothing to solve the reason they attempted it in the first place.
It's really just a giant mess of willful miscommunication on the part of the prolifers or those around us who refuse to understand or acknowledge the situation for what it is.

 

[Shadowrider]

As you guys have stated it: many of us are in hopeless situations that have very little - or no - chance to improve. This is what such naive do-gooders don't seem to get.

We all have good reasons to be suicidal. Hey, nobody is nuts enough to just get up one day and think "well, why not try to kill myself? Being suicidal must be a nice pastime!"

Yes, I do agree nobody would want to CTB if they had any other options. I think everyone who came to the decision to do the deed (and didn't do it out of a sudden impulse, influenced by substances or insanity) had tried everything else before doing it.

Yes please give me a Master's Degree and at least 10 years of experience in any of the fields I am interested in, or at least the possibility to study and have a future. Or at least a McJob where my possible AvPD is tolerated so that I could support myself. Then I would rethink the situation, would be motivated in getting better and not doing insane things that are equivalents of a suicide attempt.

If there is no viable solution to the root issue, then no saving can be performed.
The problem is that other people want to define our definition of "help" and if it doesn't match up with our own, and we deny it, then they blame us and say we don't want to be "saved" or "helped".
They similarly believe they are "saving" people when they stop them from committing suicide, but do nothing to solve the reason they attempted it in the first place.
It's really just a giant mess of willful miscommunication on the part of the prolifers or those around us who refuse to understand or acknowledge the situation for what it is.

This!

These "helpful" people, in reality, are lacking empathy. They want to "help" us the way they think it's right.

I really like how you point at the main problem: "saving" somebody's live will _not_ solve the reason why they want to die.

 

[Freakazette]

You cannot be actually saved, though, right? Since you were born, death was iminnent - just a matter of time, of when and how... If you want to get old enough to wait for it whilist you don't recongnize yourself in the mirror anymore and cannot jump out of the bed, and even some mere stairs seeming like a rollercoaster to yourself... In case there isn't any sort of accident in the meantime leading to your death, then you can wait to be saved not being actually saved at all.

 

[LastFlowers]

As you guys have stated it: many of us are in hopeless situations that have very little - or no - chance to improve. This is what such naive do-gooders don't seem to get.

We all have good reasons to be suicidal. Hey, nobody is nuts enough to just get up one day and think "well, why not try to kill myself? Being suicidal must be a nice pastime!"

Yes, I do agree nobody would want to CTB if they had any other options. I think everyone who came to the decision to do the deed (and didn't do it out of a sudden impulse, influenced by substances or insanity) had tried everything else before doing it.

Yes please give me a Master's Degree and at least 10 years of experience in any of the fields I am interested in, or at least the possibility to study and have a future. Or at least a McJob where my possible AvPD is tolerated so that I could support myself. Then I would rethink the situation, would be motivated in getting better and not doing insane things that are equivalents of a suicide attempt.

This!

These "helpful" people, in reality, are lacking empathy. They want to "help" us the way they think it's right.

I really like how you point at the main problem: "saving" somebody's live will _not_ solve the reason why they want to die.

Exactly, and when all else fails and they (the "do-gooders") have no choice but to realize our actual core issues can't be resolved, they move on to the tactic of telling us our problems don't exist outside of our "certifiable" minds.
They seek us out, they destroy our only option of ending the suffering, and then they dismiss said suffering.
That is all their arsenal consists of.
Even when we die, a lot of us have our true reasons for suicide swept under the rug, every last one of us will be chalked down to "mentally ill", giving no credence to any environmental or situational predicaments or trauma.
The onus is always placed upon our backs, even when we are no longer there to defend ourselves, the rest of society pats eachother's shoulders and absolves themselves of any guilt or responsibility.

If I wanted to be saved I'd post on a forum called Sanctioned Saved.

Aka every other corner of the Internet besides this site.

 

[Shadowrider]

Exactly, and when all else fails and they (the "do-gooders") have no choice but to realize our actual core issues can't be resolved, they move on to the tactic of telling us our problems don't exist outside of our "certifiable" minds.
They seek us out, they destroy our only option of ending the suffering, and then they dismiss said suffering.
That is all their arsenal consists of.
Even when we die, a lot of us have our true reasons for suicide swept under the rug, every last one of us will be chalked down to "mentally ill", giving no credence to any environmental or situational predicaments or trauma.
The onus is always placed upon our backs, even when we are no longer there to defend ourselves, the rest of society pats eachother's shoulders and absolves themselves of any guilt or responsibility.

Aka every other corner of the Internet besides this site.

Yes. They go out of their way to save their idealized little self-image. They invalidate us just to make themselves look as nice and as good as they'd like to believe they are. At the cost of us whom they allegedly tried to "save". I cannot help but think of a certain word beginning with N (and ending with "arcissistic", can anybody guess?)
Oh yeah. Denial. If they (tm) cannot solve the problem, then the problem must be fictional.

Pathologizing is what I loathe most! This "mentally ill" label annoys the hell out of me (and saves other, "pro-life" and "normal" people from the uncomfortable responsibility). Yes, because "mental illnesses" occur spontaneously. No precursors. Nobody gets traumatized, develops a personality disorder, and/or learns maladaptive coping mechanisms with a reason. It just happens. "Because some people are mentally ill - read: not one of us".

 

[UKscotty]

Nah, I have been well and I have been suicidal. In the end you realise that life is pointless anyway and you are just here to breed and die. What does 'being saved' even mean? Saved in the sense your mental health improves, just to wake up and realise its all for nothing anyway. No thank you.

 

[ixkitty]

I believe I can probably say if I was raised with more "be happy as you are" .. and more listening ears.. and less bullying, anti everything that isn't biblical, anti keep your mouth shut because no one cares about your opinion, and less you suck at everything but breathing... maybe !..... okay actually I think I'd still be in the same situation, it would just surprise more people.

 

[jusbug]

i do, i want to be saved

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

I'm completely split about this. Exactly 50% of my psyche does wish to be saved even though there is such a small chance of that happening and it's completely beyond my control.

The other half of me is aware that this chance of being saved is so small that it might as well be zero. It also believes that not even getting saved will matter since I'll find a way to hedonic treadmill my way through and still wind up unhappy and unable to escape whereas for now I'm perfectly able to exit when I'm ready.

 

[bluedreamscape]

I would only be saved by an amount of money that would mean I wouldn't have to work.

 

[Pookie]

I can't be saved.

 

[Sans]

YES I want to be saved. But my body is fucked beyond repair, there's no existing surgery that could make me into a normal member of society again. And if there was, I don't have that kind of money. I think I can hold out for like another five years tops, otherwise it's CTB time.

 

[motel rooms]

I can't be saved.

Yes, yes you can. Just open your heart to Him:

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[Pookie]

Yes, yes you can. Just open your heart to Him:

Jesus! My favourite imaginary friend.

Or is that his daddy? I can't really tell.

 

[motel rooms]

Or is that his daddy? I can't really tell.

No, this is his Father

 

[Pookie]

No, this is his Father

A genetic misfit, I see.

 

[motel rooms]

A genetic misfit, I see.

Well, we on SaSu are His children, so what else could He be?

 

[wanttodie]

no i do not want to be saved I want to die I want my life to be over

 

[Marktheghost]

I'd guess a majority of suicidal people want to get better, but the whole point is they don't see themselves getting better/have any hope that they will.

Yep. This is me.

 

[All Things Must Pass]

I do, but that's not possible with the current technology.

 

[Bedrock48]

If I ever get to the point that someone has to answer the question of whether to save me, then hell no just let me go. I've not gotten that far for someone to break all my ribs and/or keep me alive on machines.

Today, this very moment, if I was to become suicidal I would try to get help and be "saved" from my ideation. So I guess it depends on the day but if I attempt again then I'd respectfully want people to see that I don't want to be saved.