Discussion Do you think you can change your nature?

[Kibby]

I was wondering if everyone here is a victim to nature or nurture but looking at other threads it seems to be 50/50 though no one here is losing it without a reason it looks like. Seems like suffering begets suffering and its a prerequisite to be here.

My question is if any of you truly believe you can change yourself at your core, change who you are and how you feel about it all, if everything went right maybe? Or is it just over, you are what you are and once you get past a certain point in life or age your fate is set? From my PoV, changing how you view and react to the world is akin to changing your personality itself, changing how your brain reacts to things so I'm not sure on it. Maybe it can be done.

 

[ma0]

I don't really care at this point. If I could, I'm too much of a lazy, unmotivated jackass to attempt to get better. I may as well just go down the rabbit hole.

 

[zznz1]

a part of you will stay as a part of the same quality, forever.

Victims of nature will become victims of nurture to some extent no matter how much control you can exercise over it.

The ways in which our core becomes clearer to us are subject to impossible to predict trends and emergence.

There is a part of you that can never change, but you can never truly know it. You create your life as much as you find it.

The uncertainty and promise is wholly binding in a way nothing else can be

 

[divinemistress36]

No, I cant change my faulty brain wiring. I have tried for so many years

 

[idelttoilfsadness21]

Nope and don't want to... I love me, I hate this world, and I'm out to kill myself believing I never could changed... I had experience and life before all of this and I appreciated my nature... This world's too damn fucked up for me

 

[Kibby]

a part of you will stay as a part of the same quality, forever.

Victims of nature will become victims of nurture to some extent no matter how much control you can exercise over it.

The ways in which our core becomes clearer to us are subject to impossible to predict trends and emergence.

There is a part of you that can never change, but you can never truly know it. You create your life as much as you find it.

The uncertainty and promise is wholly binding in a way nothing else can be

Yes, the unknowing way of it all is still rough in it of itself. Wonder if anything could have been done or if it was just over from the start. But yes, in the end all that matters is what we can do now and what could have been is unknown and will forever be unknown. I just wonder if the nature of oneself can be changed, maybe not past a certain age but maybe possible. Who knows. I'll try. I hope the others here manage to find a way too but meh; it is what it is.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I can but why should I? What's the point in ignoring everything that I acknowledge about the world? The truth is harsh and cruel but it's important as it allows me to make decisions that will spare myself as well as others from suffering in this world. The truth is important for me to be an antinatalist and to not bring anybody else into this world

 

[zznz1]

Yes, the unknowing way of it all is still rough in it of itself. Wonder if anything could have been done or if it was just over from the start. But yes, in the end all that matters is what we can do now and what could have been is unknown and will forever be unknown. I just wonder if the nature of oneself can be changed, maybe not past a certain age but maybe possible. Who knows. I'll try. I hope the others here manage to find a way too but meh; it is what it is.

Something can always be done, this is just truth. Something could have been done, something could be done in the future, there is something you could do right now that would radically change the meaning of everything you could care about. What you have done will shift in modern and future importance, and your perception of your emotions can change drastically and contextualize moments or phases of your life in ways that are to nobody but yourself "changing the past". Every part of life is trying, everything you are is something you've tried to be whether by nature or nurture.

I can but why should I? What's the point in ignoring everything that I acknowledge about the world? The truth is harsh and cruel but it's important as it allows me to make decisions that will spare myself as well as others from suffering in this world. The truth is important for me to be an antinatalist and to not bring anybody else into this world

I apologize if I'm unwelcomed or detouring but is antinatalism considered by you folk to be a branch of hedonism

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I apologize if I'm unwelcomed or detouring but is antinatalism considered by you folk to be a branch of hedonism

I don't quite understand what you mean by this. I'm more so of an antinatalist due to suffering based reasons such as how the risks that are inherent to life which cause suffering is uncertain and thus it's important to be risk averse. I also think that there is no need to create a person as it isn't like they are in some purgatory wishing to be born and they aren't missing out on anything by not being born as they are non existent. I don't think that I follow antinatalism due to hedonic related reasons and I can't really imagine any hedonic reasons for antinatalism

 

[Nadienobody]

I'm not sure if it is possible for me to change, I have been like this since I was born. But even if it was possible, is it even worth it? I'm too tired and don't really care about life anymore, I'm just waiting for the inevitable to happen.

 

[Forveleth]

COULD I? Yes. It was life circumstances that got me here so I could change myself if my life changed enough. Do I WANT to? No. If everything suddenly turned around for me, I still would not want to live. Life has shown me too many dark things and even if there is a ton of good out there, I am done with life in general.

 

[l.a557]

No

 

[human909]

I don't care about life anymore, there is too much pain and suffering in me. I just want peace not getting back out there living in this stupid world.

 

[NonEssential]

I'm unsure, ever since I was a little kid I've had problems with social anxiety and low self esteem (no trauma caused that, it's just how I've been all my life)
Maybe enough self care and attempts at socializing could imporve me somewhat, but I don't really have the motivation and I have zero clue as to how I'd even ever try to talk to someone I don't know. I immediately assume I'm an annoyance to anyone I'd approach.

 

[Tortured_empath]

yes well i hope at the very least

 

[SilentSadness]

It's really got nothing to do with me or anything I've done, I'm trapped in a flesh cage where I'm tormented by others and the limits of my body. We are controlled and abused by our own brains, we don't have power to change anything. In my case, I think I've made good decisions but it doesn't matter, I am still condemned to the slavery and imprisonment of this society. This world couldn't be further from anything I would want, the only time I'm not suffering is when I've deluded myself in fantasy, life wouldn't be so bad as an ongoing dream away from the cruelty and consistency of this society and this world.

 

[Redacted24]

I don't think it's possible to change our nature. I'm weird to society as a whole and always will be. I can try to act differently, but it's in my nature to be as I am.
It'd be nice to be accepted as I am, by anyone, but that just doesn't seem to happen.
I do try to not take the rejection internally but it still has negative impacts on my self esteem, and that drives depression.

 

[goredpet]

i'm giving it one last shot. i want to live, it's just all so overwhelming to me. if i can't change things, id rather go, but i might as well give medication a shot while im here.

I don't think it's possible to change our nature. I'm weird to society as a whole and always will be. I can try to act differently, but it's in my nature to be as I am.
It'd be nice to be accepted as I am, by anyone, but that just doesn't seem to happen.
I do try to not take the rejection internally but it still has negative impacts on my self esteem, and that drives depression.

i relate to this one far too much

 

[loneloser]

I've been this way too long to go back to what I was before. I don't remember myself nor do I know who/what I am anymore now. I don't think it's possible for me but it may be possible for others. Even then, I'm also just way too fucking lazy and "don't-care"-like lol. My upbringing was, to say the least, horrible. And I was dealt with horrendous cards from the beginning. I don't think I was ever meant to be anything in life.

 

[Kibby]

damn. good luck to you all