Do you think that one day there will be an easier way than drinking 20cl of N to go away in peace ?

[Noctuidaee]

Do you think that one day there will be an easier way than drinking 20cl of N to go away in peace? (I speak as a person with big health problems)

 

[clueless2dayor2morro]

i don't know. i know in the netherlands (i think, don't quote me on that) they do have a process to go through a peaceful passing after psych evals if you are still a physically healthy young person. there are several documentaries (vice, of course, but i think i've found several other documentaries on this forum documenting people going through the process of euthanasia)

unfortunately, for many places that even allow euthanasia in the first place, you have to have a terminal illness or be very old.

i truly hope that some day, our societies will advance far enough in empathy and in understanding and supportiveness of free choice that we will, ideally, be able to take a route that--when we do choose to euthanize ourselves (whether its with a professional there to administer it or with a drug)-- there will be a process to try to recover and talk us out of wanting to choose the choice of an early, deliberate death even if our bodies are physically healthy and we supposedly have tons of potential years to turn things around and be happy (sarcasm).

i dream of this ideal society to allow us to, after going through attempted recovery and evaluation and proper therapy (perhaps through several therapists rather than one or two shitty therapists), to choose to have a nice view and surrounded by friends, if we have any, to be there with us and talk to us and make jokes or have interesting conversation as we die so that our last memories are pleasant and we feel truly good for once before we pass away.

i know that dreams are not what you want to hear, but that's what your post made me want to write about.

 

[Noctuidaee]

I was so afraid of a "pro N" guilty answer that I admit that your answer seems rather sweat...
I am sick of this life locked in my room to suffer tremendously physically without diagnosis because what I have is not studied ....

I dream of a simpler process than drinking N because I also have an digestive autoimmune disease in parrallele and that leaving forcing myself and I'm afraid of screwing everything up ... at time there was powder that looked easier to drink

I wish so much that a pill coktail or something even easier to absorb is a day soon will be available, I'm so afraid to suffer every minute again in this prison-body ...

 

[SamTam33]

Why can't humans inject it? I'm assuming that's how they put down animals.

 

[Forever Sleep]

Why can't humans inject it? I'm assuming that's how they put down animals.

That's what I was about to say... I imagine it would be possible. Plus- there's the Sarco Pod now- I expect that will become a method in clinics also.

 

[FuneralCry]

At least in my case just being able to drink N would be ideal and easy, but of course there should be the option of being able to be injected with it for those who have difficulty in drinking it. Legalised assisted suicide everywhere is something we so desperately need yet so unfortunately seems to be limited to certain people in certain circumstances. It's tragic how this society that we exist in is so focused on prolonging torture and suffering to the point that such a thing as inevitable as death is mostly denied if one feels a need to exit themselves. But I don't know to answer the question, I hope so but it just depends on whether attitudes in different countries change.

 

[GasMonkey]

Sarco is the future.

 

[Szinuus]

Sarco, I think. N tastes awfully from what I read.

 

[Capsaicin78]

Maybe someday there will be a suicide pill that kills you off randomly in the span of a month or so. you just spent a month in nature and then boom. you fall asleep randomly and then die.

maybe that will be more peaceful then N. you can relax for days/weeks because you know its over already

 

[Noctuidaee]

Maybe someday there will be a suicide pill that kills you off randomly in the span of a month or so. you just spent a month in nature and then boom. you fall asleep randomly and then die.

maybe that will be more peaceful then N. you can relax for days/weeks because you know its over already

I burst out laughing, but I think I get the idea behind it of not having the awareness of the moment just before dying .... but it's also quite scary you know you will but don't know when I will be a bit paranoid lol

I really know why we can't inject N. First of all, you have to know how to inject yourself and have all the equipment, but beyond that, I wonder if veterinary N is not used with other products during animal euthanasia

Sarco is a future that seems for me too far and especially not accessible to everyone ...

My dream would be a new substance that arrives on the market capable of killing quickly and well without suffering and very easy to ingest like several pills or N powder ... I can't believe we live in a world where this does not exist anyway

 

[Capsaicin78]

I burst out laughing, but I think I get the idea behind it of not having the awareness of the moment just before dying .... but it's also quite scary you know you will but don't know when I will be a bit paranoid lol

I really know why we can't inject N. First of all, you have to know how to inject yourself and have all the equipment, but beyond that, I wonder if veterinary N is not used with other products during animal euthanasia

Sarco is a future that seems for me too far and especially not accessible to everyone ...

My dream would be a new substance that arrives on the market capable of killing quickly and well without suffering and very easy to ingest like several pills or N powder ... I can't believe we live in a world where this does not exist anyway

Happy to have put a smile on your face haha

 

[lionetta12]

Do you think that one day there will be an easier way than drinking 20cl of N to go away in peace? (I speak as a person with big health problems)

When taking into consideration how much scientific and medical advancement humans have made in the past 100 years, yes.

 

[Sasel]

yes but I don't revive giles

 

[Noctuidaee]

When taking into consideration how much scientific and medical advancement humans have made in the past 100 years, yes.

I am surprised in a bad way by how few solutions there are to leave with dignity, especially when you live in permanent physical pain cause of post fluoroquinolone issues, auto-immunes issues, post virale, fungal, mold, em/sfc; long covid ... I would really like to see new solutions that make it easier to leave.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

Why can't humans inject it? I'm assuming that's how they put down animals.

I've heard that you can't inject enough of it before it makes you pass out. You'd have to have someone else inject it and I think the laws in most places prevent that. You have to administer it yourself, which is why even the euthanasia clinics have you drink it.

 

[Noctuidaee]

I've heard that you can't inject enough of it before it makes you pass out. You'd have to have someone else inject it and I think the laws in most places prevent that. You have to administer it yourself, which is why even the euthanasia clinics have you drink it.

*(Euthanasia in swizerland allow injection)

 

[WhiteRabbit]

*(Euthanasia in swizerland allow injection)

Good to know, I thought you had to drink it in all of them.

 

[Obliviate]

You know what's crazy? I am sure with all the technological and medical advancements a way can be figured our or there already is but it is not shared with us due to the prolife society...........For example, keeping scientists from sharing their cancer curing treatments becuase more patients mean more money...........sad........everything has to be a business

 

[Noctuidaee]

You know what's crazy? I am sure with all the technological and medical advancements a way can be figured our or there already is but it is not shared with us due to the prolife society...........For example, keeping scientists from sharing their cancer curing treatments becuase more patients mean more money...........sad........everything has to be a business

Pro-life are strangely not the people who suffer from extremely difficult diseases in general... I'm also sure that there are ways and means, it's not possible that something like this doesn't exist anywhere in the world ...???