Discussion Do you think suicide will ever be made illegal again?

[Forever Sleep]

I feel as if in many ways, we are regressing. That our freedoms to be who we are and live how we want are being restricted. Do you think it could go so far as making suicide illegal again? I suppose you could argue that the results of attempting suicide now are already similar to committing a crime- involuntary sectioning. It's weird to think that attempting suicide could land someone with a criminal record though.

Ironically, I imagine it would make it harder for them to 'recover' too. I doubt employers would be too keen on seeing that. The police officers were actually kind enough to be clear that my welfair check years back wouldn't be visible to potential employers.

I suppose if enough of the population are so miserable they start offing themselves in economically inconvenient numbers, maybe they will prohibit it though.

What do you think? Would people tolerate that? Would some welcome it? Prefer to see their children suffering in jail so long as they are still alive?

 

[roommate]

Well I've heard that in the netherlands assisted suicide will make some tiny steps to make it easier for elders.
But aslong as the world vote for more conservative right parties/leader; I think that the main opinion would be more towards that people should be "manning up".

I don't see it becoming illigal in the Netherlands though, we're too liberal for that.

 

[shineboy2k15taliban]

in my country, and the region itself, suicide is still illegal
people get fined for attempting suicide and sometimes jailtime aswell
just a decade ago they would get executed for suicide attempts but as the region is getting modernized and trying to reel in more tourists, they stopped doing so and thats what led to fines and imprisonment instead

 

[Pluto]

 

[Forever Sleep]

in my country, and the region itself, suicide is still illegal
people get fined for attempting suicide and sometimes jailtime aswell
just a decade ago they would get executed for suicide attempts but as the region is getting modernized and trying to reel in more tourists, they stopped doing so and thats what led to fines and imprisonment instead

I wondered if you could be executed for attempting suicide. A pretty paradoxical 'punishment' really.

It must be especially difficult for you I imagine. They must be very against sites like this I would think.

 

[cowboypants]

It's hard to predict with the way things have turned around in the last decade with all the right wing push across the globe. But in India I don't think it would be ever illegal one has to go to jail for it. They only decriminalized it in the last decade. I've never heard of anyone being subjected to prison for it, ever since I was born

 

[SchizoGymnast]

In the US, I doubt that will happen, just because if an attempt is successful, the only punishment could be meted out on surviving family members and such, which a good lawyer could argue is a violation of due process or cruel and unusual punishment.

Plus we have a pretty big suicide prevention lobby that needs people willing to confess suicidality, which will happen a lot less if suicide is made a crime.

Just my uneducated opinion.

 

[shineboy2k15taliban]

I wondered if you could be executed for attempting suicide. A pretty paradoxical 'punishment' really.

it actually makes sense once you know why they do it… its an islamic state, an by executing them they are 'saving the soul', so they're giving the suicidal person what they want, in a way that doesnt affect their afterlife for the worse

It must be especially difficult for you I imagine. They must be very against sites like this I would think.

yeah this websites banned i have to use a VPN censorship here is very heavy a lot of things are blocked

 

[Forever Sleep]

it actually makes sense once you know why they do it… its an islamic state, an by executing them they are 'saving the soul', so they're giving the suicidal person what they want, in a way that doesnt affect their afterlife for the worse



yeah this websites banned i have to use a VPN censorship here is very heavy a lot of things are blocked

That's interesting. So- is it considered more honourable to be killed rather than kill yourself? What about the executioner though? Don't they get into (religious) trouble?

In the US, I doubt that will happen, just because if an attempt is successful, the only punishment could be meted out on surviving family members and such, which a good lawyer could argue is a violation of due process or cruel and unusual punishment.

Plus we have a pretty big suicide prevention lobby that needs people willing to confess suicidality, which will happen a lot less if suicide is made a crime.

Just my uneducated opinion.

That's a good point. I didn't actually consider successful attempts and the legal aftetmath on the family.

 

[SchizoGymnast]

it actually makes sense once you know why they do it… its an islamic state, an by executing them they are 'saving the soul', so they're giving the suicidal person what they want, in a way that doesnt affect their afterlife for the worse



yeah this websites banned i have to use a VPN censorship here is very heavy a lot of things are blocked

Yikes. May the odds ever be in your favor.

 

[shineboy2k15taliban]

That's interesting. So- is it considered more honourable to be killed rather than kill yourself? What about the executioner though? Don't they get into (religious) trouble?.

yeah exactly, suicide is seen as a sin that damages the soul, but if someone else carries it out under the law, its not the same in religious terms
its like taking justice into human hands in a way thats 'permitted'
the executioner is seen more as carrying out god's law, not acting on personal will, so they don't get blamed religiously
its all very complicated but thats the reasoning they use.
basically like a medically assisted suicide, except its not medical (rather brutal, beheading is the most common method) and its against your will

 

[SilentSadness]

I'm not sure what you would expect to change if suicide became illegal. They already persecute and imprison suicidal people, take down and restrict sources, censor information and discussion, smear the names of suicidal people, regulate reporting about it, and even call the police on suspects. It doesn't go on your criminal record but you certainly get added to their lists which prevent you from doing anything you want to do. It's 100% a crime whether the law says so or not.

 

[JesiBel]

If you buy illegal substances to attempt suicide and the police seize them, you'll likely be recorded in some report or file... just as they are with possession of drugs and medications of dubious origin.

It is not illegal to commit suicide, but the substances acquired to carry it out.

 

[Valhala]

in my country, and the region itself, suicide is still illegal
people get fined for attempting suicide and sometimes jailtime aswell
just a decade ago they would get executed for suicide attempts but as the region is getting modernized and trying to reel in more tourists, they stopped doing so and thats what led to fines and imprisonment instead

Isn't it paradoxical to execute someone for attempting suicide?!? If a person really wants CTB, they are actually doing them a favor.

 

[Apathy79]

I'm pretty sure attempted suicide is still illegal here. It's one of the strangest laws. It's one of those things like abortion though I think. Technically illegal by the letter of the law because it's a murder / attempted murder, but not actually enforced.

 

[divinemistress36]

In the USA no but they will and do lock people up in psych hospitals for attempting

 

[Cauliflour]

I wondered if you could be executed for attempting suicide. A pretty paradoxical 'punishment' really.

Hell yeah! They get to do all the organising and sorting out and all I have to do is sit in a prison cell and choose my last meal? Sign me up! I wanna pick guillotine.

What do they do if your plan was successful though? Chop off the head of your corpse?

 

[MissWannaLive]

I think instead of jail they should just put more money for actual psychiatrist hospitals and people who tried to commit would be put there off charge. But obviously that is too perfectionist view on world and it would never work like that. For me making suicide illegal is just an idiotic idea at it's very core. If someone fails what they are gonna do? Put them in jail? If someone already attempted then putting them in jail will only make things worse and would probably lead anyway to another attempt this time successful. There is unfortunately no cure for that. Yes some may say therapy and some try to have hope but being realistic if someone truly wants to end it they will find a way. Whether it will be legal for them to do that or not. I doubt someone who wants to die would care much if it's illegal. Such laws bring literally nothing, at least I see no use for them. We live in a fucked up world unfortunately. I wouldn't be surprised if they made a law like that again but I doubt it would truly change anything. I guess the only thing that would increase would be the number of prisoners and that also doesn't bring anything worthy. What would even a judge say? "So Mr. X since you attempted to kill yourself because you have depression and we increased the price of your meds so you had to drop them, you will go to jail for 10 years" it even sounds bizarre.
I don't think law like that can be taken seriously.