Discussion Do you know anyone whos life was ruined by a criminal record?

[nigelhernandez]

I've just learned that one of my friends who had completed a four year degree in Law and was going to do a bachelors is set to go into court for a drunken assault on someone. It's very shocking to me and his family/friends as he's not the type of person who would be violent at all. I guess though he got addicted to the abundance of coke and alcohol that's awash in the pubs and nightclubs here in Ireland.

Do you know similar stories like this

 

[mem12]

I know someone who had a criminal record on her case and it affected her employment. But managed to sort herself out but someone helped her a lot. NOt sure how law firms would react to a person with a criminal record....

 

[Brick In The Wall]

I know more than my share of people ruined by criminal misconduct. Even small infractions can quickly stack up against you. Which can easily prevent you from getting even a simple job, phone (contract), car, apartment, or house.

 

[Final Escape]

Many lol! But mine is because I got busted for prostitution twice. My friend got busted for holding up a pharmacy but he's not this terrible guy or anything. He's really nice. I've known many felons because I guess antisocials attract other antisocials. You don't even have to know the person is one it's like a 6th sense lol! I tended to often enjoy the company of other antisocial types because I didn't fit in to the norm.

I know more than my share of people ruined by criminal misconduct. Even small infractions can quickly stack up against you. Which can easily prevent you from getting even a simple job, phone (contract), car, apartment, or house.

We live in a total police state. Even if u aren't actually causing serious harm to anyone the laws can be illegitimate or arbitrary. Many laws are just there to punish things the state doesn't like but it has nothing to do with what is moral or not, or right or wrong. Not all laws are actually there because it helps the average person but they do give more power to the state over us.

I've just learned that one of my friends who had completed a four year degree in Law and was going to do a bachelors is set to go into court for a drunken assault on someone. It's very shocking to me and his family/friends as he's not the type of person who would be violent at all. I guess though he got addicted to the abundance of coke and alcohol that's awash in the pubs and nightclubs here in Ireland.

Do you know similar stories like this

Drugs like coke and alcohol tend to raise aggression in people. So those are the ones u really want to stay away from. I know so many people who got in trouble over alcohol and meth especially. I rarely hear about coke.

 

[Wayfaerer]

I know more than my share of people ruined by criminal misconduct. Even small infractions can quickly stack up against you. Which can easily prevent you from getting even a simple job, phone (contract), car, apartment, or house.

Wait, even a phone contract?! That's ridiculous!

 

[lotus11]

YES me...I mean I have bigger problems in my life but I stole something small from a shop during my university days 7 or 8 years ago and got caught. Its still on my record and has prevented me from getting loads of jobs. In fact, as a result, I have been unemployed this entire year. I am currently working with a lawyer to try to get it removed because it's absolutely ridiculous.

Can't even remember what I stole...I think it was some chocolates or something like that. Honestly, I've done way 'worse' things.....spent weeks of my life on drugs, got money for having sex. And I am punished for 8 YEARS for stealing some chocolates?

Technically I could have stolen chocolates EVERY SINGLE DAY for the past 8 years and it still would not be financially viable for me nor the state to prevent me from getting employment for this long!!

The system is so fucked. I would honestly say I'm a really good person, but I struggle a lot in life, mentally financially.....all doing something like this is going to do is encourage me to steal more because I have no money from being unemployed ffs!!!!!


I mean I am not saying don't punish people for stealing...but the punishment is completely and utterly out of proportion!!!

 

[Xocoyotziin]

Not exactly the same and it was a long time ago so I'm not sure how well I remember.

My high school bf's parents were both mostly absent drug addicts. I don't think they were outright abusive, his mom obviously loved him but was too wrapped up in her own troubles to act on it. At some point his mom turned a new leaf, got a job, and started being more present in his life. While she wasn't perfect, as no one is, she had been making demonstrable strides towards repairing her relationship with him and providing for him. One night, while returning home from work, she was pulled over for something, I don't remember what, but I do remember it was not because she was intoxicated, and arrested because they found heroin in her car.

She was fired. I don't recall her going to jail but I don't remember that well, I block out a lot of this time. She might have, because it was a violation of her probation and he had to move in with his grandmother. Even though she had probably been using heroin the entire time that she had been making progress, the fact that she was found with it was taken as a sign that she hadn't really progressed at all and she was punished for it, and that punishment was exactly what undid the progress she made.

How the fuck do you expect people to move on with their lives if they're continually set back by things no one can reasonably change overnight, and that through proof of action they're effectively compensating for or maybe even no longer hampered by? I hate that this was supposedly an act of justice when all it did was rewind time and hurt a child who did nothing wrong in the first place.

 

[catalepsy]

I have a friend who downloaded a bunch of random, nondescript files on a file sharing platform and got busted for pandering - he never knew until the cops were rummaging through his belongings, and didn't find out the specifics until he got to talk to a lawyer. Now his life is basically ruined, and he had to spend 2 years in jail getting beat up and abused due to being labelled a pedophile.

 

[Xocoyotziin]

@catalepsy
This is fucking terrifying. Pedophilia is the present day 15 minutes of hate and there's so much bias to get through to prove innocence.

 

[catalepsy]

@catalepsy
This is fucking terrifying. Pedophilia is the present day 15 minutes of hate and there's so much bias to get through to prove innocence.

It's even more terrifying if you consider the fact that WPA2 is fully compromised and there won't be a viable replacement for quite a while. It might not sound relevant, but it definitely is. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the people getting brought up on pandering charges aren't in reality either innocent, or only circumstantially guilty like my friend was.

 

[Xocoyotziin]

I wouldn't be surprised if most people getting brought up on any kind of charges without direct biological evidence linking them to those charges are entirely innocent either. You can never prove the rate of truly wrongful convictions, it's inherent to the problem.

What scares me the most is how people look past how easy it is to frame someone of a "cybercrime". I'm hardly technologically literate but even I know how little autonomy an unprepared person has over their, I don't know what to call it, computational space.

I don't know what WPA2 even is, a form of encryption I guess? That's not a good sign.

God even this makes me want to quit reality right fucking now. Remember how that one chick who was walking her dog had her life ruined over some perceived racist comment she made even though she thought her life was being threatened? This world doesn't know what mercy is. I want so bad to be fucking done. I hate it here.

This is eugenics in action. They're breeding out sensitivity. I hope very much that ecological devastation will outpace the hell that we made for ourselves. At least nature will give us a chance to redefine ourselves in the aftermath.

 

[benjamind2020]

They're breeding out sensitivity. I hope very much that ecological devastation will outpace the hell that we made for ourselves. At least nature will give us a chance to redefine ourselves in the aftermath.

Yep. Breeding out sensitivity. That's why I got people trying to come after me because I said I was against the idea of strapping a baby boy down to a table to cut his privates. One day I might come after one them instead especially if they want to make a big deal about it. I am sick of cruelty to children and this is a great example.

 

[deleted]

I have a friend who downloaded a bunch of random, nondescript files on a file sharing platform and got busted for pandering - he never knew until the cops were rummaging through his belongings, and didn't find out the specifics until he got to talk to a lawyer. Now his life is basically ruined, and he had to spend 2 years in jail getting beat up and abused due to being labelled a pedophile.

This is real torture, imagine my country that does not need evidence for you to be accused of rapist or pedophile, I have seen so many reports of men who lost their lives because of false accusations

 

[Wayfaerer]

Yep. Breeding out sensitivity. That's why I got people trying to come after me because I said I was against the idea of strapping a baby boy down to a table to cut his privates. One day I might come after one them instead especially if they want to make a big deal about it. I am sick of cruelty to children and this is a great example.

Infant circumcision is such a cynical practice I have no doubt that those who preform it know exactly what they're doing and they just don't care. It's Americanism in it's purest form: fucking people over for money, that's what it's all about.

 

[benjamind2020]

Infant circumcision is such a cynical practice I have no doubt that those who preform it know exactly what they're doing and they just don't care. It's Americanism in it's purest form: fucking people over for money, that's what it's all about.

We have the same problem here in Australia albeit on a much smaller scale.

Our rate is around ~5% compared to the US rate of around ~45%

The tide is turning and the more people learn about this horrid abuse the sooner it will be put to an end.

We have a few arsehole doctors who still do it but almost all of them are old and almost retired. Hopefully it dies out in Australia in my lifetime.

 

[Wayfaerer]

We have the same problem here in Australia albeit on a much smaller scale.

Our rate is around ~5% compared to the US rate of around ~45%

The tide is turning and the more people learn about this horrid abuse the sooner it will be put to an end.

We have a few arsehole doctors who still do it but almost all of them are old and almost retired. Hopefully it does out in Australia in my lifetime.

There is a lot of ignorance regarding it in the united states. I didn't even know I was circumcised until I was 18 and by the time I learned that you can actually SUE THEM and WIN, I was already beyond the statute of limitations. Which is a shame because I would've squeezed them for as much money as possible if I had known this before. It's disgusting how high and mighty doctors consider themselves when really they're just salesmen with medical degrees. Big whoop.

 

[benjamind2020]

There is a lot of ignorance regarding it in the united states. I didn't even know I was circumcised until I was 18 and by the time I learned that you can actually SUE THEM and WIN, I was already beyond the statute of limitations. Which is a shame because I would've squeezed them for as much money as possible if I had known this before. It's disgusting how high and mighty doctors consider themselves when really they're just salesmen with medical degrees. Big whoop.

I still have a great deal of respect for doctors here in Australia - except for the ones who brag about how many 10s of 1000s of circumcisions they've done. I put those doctors in the same category as the pedophiles in the Church who systematically abuse kids. I am not even joking.

The trauma this causes to a child is horrific and I care not one damn about the "peer reviewed" evidence when I know it's a lucrative business.

If I could pull the pin on a guillotine and one of these "I've done 25,000 circumcisions" doctor's neck was on the cutting block I honest to God would pull that pin without hesitation and would walk away without a care in the world.

 

[benjamind2020]

I didn't even know I was circumcised until I was 18 and by the time I learned that you can actually SUE THEM and WIN, I was already beyond the statute of limitations. Which is a shame because I would've squeezed them for as much money as possible if I had known this before.

Geez I'm sorry to equate these baby cutters to pedophiles but really that's what they are - child abusers. And I believe you may be able to sue whoever hurt you. I don't believe there is a statute of limitations on anything that was done without your consent. Your parents could also sue to care providers for failing to provide nonbiased information.

I do see a massive class action lawsuit on the cards. Child abuse is child abuse no matter how well covered up it is. Circumcision is child sexual abuse hiding in plain sight.

 

[Wayfaerer]

Geez I'm sorry to equate these baby cutters to pedophiles but really that's what they are - child abusers. And I believe you may be able to sue whoever hurt you. I don't believe there is a statute of limitations on anything that was done without your consent. Your parents could also sue to care providers for failing to provide nonbiased information.

I do see a massive class action lawsuit on the cards. Child abuse is child abuse no matter how well covered up it is. Circumcision is child sexual abuse hiding in plain sight.

From what I've read, at least here in the states, there are statute of limitations which is BULLSHIT. I tried looking it up but anyway, I'm going to CTB in the near-future so too little too late even if I somehow could sue them. I think it's fair to equate them to child predators.

 

[mattwitt]

When I was 18 y/o and still in high school I was arrested for something, spent 2 weeks in jail and ended up with 2 felonies on my adult record for the rest of my life. Because of that and some other things my was life was ruined before I graduated high school. Now I'm here : )

 

[benjamind2020]

When I was 18 y/o and still in high school I was arrested for something, spent 2 weeks in jail and ended up with 2 felonies on my adult record for the rest of my life. Because of that and some other things my was life was ruined before I graduated high school. Now I'm here : )

It's crazy you know how stupid the idea of prison as "rehabilitation and reintegration into society" when the true motive is to punish the offender basically for life.

The worst part really is when the prisoner is released - because not many employees are willing to take on an ex-felon.

One would assume that once someone has paid their dues to society that they would be allowed to get on with their life and actually be part of society again...but under the current system it seems impossible.

 

[Meditation guide]

cleaned out his bank account,

All but two states allow the police to TAKE ALL YOUR MONEY when you get arrested. And they do it. Take it all from your bank accounts, every last penny. Take your car too. N. Carolina and New Mexico are the only states that don't do this. I don't know how often it happens but much more than people think. They do not need any reason. It happens upon the arrest in most states although a few make it happen only after conviction.

Many states also take away people's driver's licenses after an arrest. So they are totally screwed and can't get jobs, apartments and no driver's licenses.

 

[mattwitt]

It's crazy you know how stupid the idea of prison as "rehabilitation and reintegration into society" when the true motive is to punish the offender basically for life.

The worst part really is when the prisoner is released - because not many employees are willing to take on an ex-felon.

One would assume that once someone has paid their dues to society that they would be allowed to get on with their life and actually be part of society again...but under the current system it seems impossible.

Thanks ! And I agree ! And if they are going to ruin peoples life's like that then they should have suicide clinics so people can just end their misery and sufferings.

 

[benjamind2020]

Thanks ! And I agree ! And if they are going to ruin peoples life's like that then they should have suicide clinics so people can just end their misery and sufferings.

That's probably why they don't. Humans at the highest level treat those at the bottom most rung of the ladder and then wonder why there is so much animosity towards them.

 

[Lupgevif]

No, I actually know someone who's doing well despite a criminal record. He helped hold a rich guy hostage in 2016, he's already out of jail and I think already served all the social work he needed to do. Now he's already back into trying to be a lawyer.