Do you ever call pro lifer friends and family out on their guilt trips?

[Ambivalent1]

They get so mad. It's funny. Silly fools in love with a treacherous whore called Life.

 

[AerialBoundaries]

It ain't easy. I can't call my best pal out because his brother took his own life. He's a stoic guy, so we don't talk about that subject, but I know he's very concerned about me.

 

[Ambivalent1]

It ain't easy. I can't call my best pal out because his brother took his own life. He's a stoic guy, so we don't talk about that subject, but I know he's very concerned about me.

Poke holes in his stoic facade.

 

[AkaRed]

That's probably the response that irks me the most. The "what about meeee???". I understand the concern, I really do. But the last thing I EVER want to be hearing is "People care about you, that should be enough!" Like fuck off.
<3

 

[StolenLife]

My parents don't even bother with the cliches, they straight up judge anyone who commited suicide (except in case of severe physical illness) as a weak person and tell me that I'm talking nonsense. There is nothing weak about committing suicide, on the contrary. And even if it was, I'm tired of being strong for everyone when my life sucks and I feel nothing toward this world. All that because they want to keep up appearances. My suicide is like the ultimate proof that they screwed up their parenting.

 

[TeflonMummy]

My parents don't even bother with the cliches, they straight up judge anyone who commited suicide (except in case of severe physical illness) as a weak person and tell me that I'm talking nonsense. There is nothing weak about committing suicide, on the contrary. And even if it was, I'm tired of being strong for everyone when my life sucks and I feel nothing toward this world. All that because they want to keep up appearances. My suicide is like the ultimate proof that they screwed up their parenting.

I totally agree. I don't know where the "weak" mentality has arisen, likely from ignorance about how strong you actually have to be to kill yourself. Especially in some methods. I don't feel like there's anything more empowering for a person than to be able to control what they have to experience, and suicide is a tool that allows you to do that in the ways you see fit for your life.