asthedayends00
flyingtourist
- Oct 18, 2024
- 122
Mental health services, medication etc. I feel some situations can't be fixed with any type of outside help, does anyone agree?
opheliaoveragain
Eating Disordered Junkie
- Jun 2, 2024
- 1,179
I think if mental health services were what they are truly supposed to be, places like this wouldn't exist. But they never will be, so here we are. I agree that some situations cannot be fixed, I also believe in exhausting all other options before CTB, within reason.
OnMyLast Legs
Too many regrets
- Oct 29, 2024
- 72
Hoo buddy, I'm trying. I have no money so I'm relying on Medicaid and the "social safety net" of doctors etc. They've treated me well so far but there are long waits. I know I've been deluded in the past, so maybe I can escape this state of mind too. Unfortunately in my depression it seems I'm finally seeing things clearly: my life is fucked.
Didn't help me any, but I'd never suggest they might not be of assistance to someone else.
My issue is that whenever I try get help, due to the fact a psychiatrist diagnosed me with bpd in 5 minutes, nobody will take me seriously. I've exhausted every avenue possible, but I always end up faced with a professional who decides either that I can't possibly be genuine and that I'll snap out of it without help because I'm impulsive, not ill, or that what I'm saying I'm only saying because I want the attention. I genuinely used to believe things could get better, but being met with a brick wall or more trauma whenever I reach out has taught me otherwise.
angelicat
Member
- Oct 29, 2024
- 9
I agree that some situations can not be fixed but not all situations. It's better to try to get help first than to deny any help. In my opinion it's better to talk to professionals first and only take medication if it's really necessary. I'm so sick of the Pharma industry generally and them thinking chemicals can fix everything, based on my own experience.
That's what i hate about the system nowadays. In movies psychiatrists are always portrayed as someone who genuinely helps you and focuses only on you. But irl its soo different, they only see u as their job and some patient out of the hundreds they have, diagnose you with some test that only takes about an hour (without even getting to know you) and then prescribe you meds and only rely on that to fix you. But what else are they supposed to do, they cant just focus on one patient and it's their job. I just want them to be more enthusiastic about what they are doing and to treat their patients as people and not just as patients.
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Treatment can help but there's no guarantee.
Imo the earlier MH issues are treated the better the chances that treatment is successful.
Imo the earlier MH issues are treated the better the chances that treatment is successful.
supremelimbo
Member
- Sep 29, 2024
- 40
ijustwishtodie
death will be my ultimate bliss
- Oct 29, 2023
- 4,856
I have no idea about somebody else since their life and personal circumstances are different but, in my case, treatment can't help me since my issues are with life itself and the only way to not have to deal with life is to be dead. For me, N would be the best treatment ever for my issues
asthedayends00
flyingtourist
- Oct 18, 2024
- 122
ijustwishtodie
death will be my ultimate bliss
- Oct 29, 2023
- 4,856
For one, I struggle with doing things in life that everybody has to. Things like work, chores and responsibilities. I struggle with it all since my neurotype is such that I'm unable to handle the stress and effort caused by these things plus I'm not able to compete with everybody else adequately enough. I got a bad set of cards yet I'm expected to compete with everybody with a good set of cards and it's just a perpetual uphill battle for me. Another issue is that I don't want to do these things to begin with. Ever since I was born, I had no motivation to do anything. I've always wanted an easy life and to be lazy, not to go through suffering and hardship. I don't consider suffering to be valuable and I never will.
Also, I'm scared of the risk that could happen in the future. The future has so much risk to it and that scares me. This is all because I'm alive. If I'm dead, there will be no risk of future suffering
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KuriGohan&Kamehameha
想死不能 - 想活不能
- Nov 23, 2020
- 1,704
For some people, depending on what their issue is and if it has been correctly identified, the tools we have available now certainly have the potential to help. This is just my opinion though. It really depends on what the issue is, imo, and if the right strategies are applied to the situation rather than throwing anything that sticks.
One example I can think of is if a person with social anxiety has a springboard to practice conversations with, and get used to the idea of socialising again in a non-judgemental environment, this type of exposure can be noticeably effective for many people and help them develop the skills to comfortably break away from social avoidance.
Some people with ADHD see a miraculous improvement once they're prescribed stimulant drugs. And while I think antipsychotics are awful medications that should be phased out of practice due to the potential for damaging side effects, as a blunt mechanism for pulling someone out of a psychotic episode, they do tend to work for that intended purpose.
With other issues I think is where it starts to get tenacious. Concepts like depression, being suicidal, etc are so vaguely defined that people with two very different issues can be placed in the same category, and what works for one person may not work for another because their fundamental problem doesn't match. An acute episode of being suicidal that goes away after two or three days is not the same as someone who has been actively self harming and longing for death since they were a teenager. Yet, the mental health system will always regard these two situations as the same, and put forward the exact same treatments for both parties.
It always feels like the system is tailored towards acute episodes, and short term illness. When you get into the territory of long standing problems, I think it's more difficult to find anything helpful, in my own personal experience. Because for a lot of complex issues, there just aren't any evidence based treatments available. For myself, autism is at the crux of many of my issues, but there is absolutely nothing that can be done about that. Quite literally, many of us are told we just have to cope and get by the rest of our lives and aren't offered anything.
The fundamental problem is that research moves at a snail's pace and the healthcare field is a minefield of liability. No one wants to take risks or gambles due to the potential for lawsuits and accountability, so getting new treatments to the market is an insanely slow process, and even if something does show promise in a trial, once again the liability issue makes it difficult for doctors to actually try new things or manage risk. It's a pretty shitty system, and I think the potential to help people would ultimately be increased if doctors cared more about trying to help patients no matter what rather than pissing their pants over liability concerns every two seconds.
One example I can think of is if a person with social anxiety has a springboard to practice conversations with, and get used to the idea of socialising again in a non-judgemental environment, this type of exposure can be noticeably effective for many people and help them develop the skills to comfortably break away from social avoidance.
Some people with ADHD see a miraculous improvement once they're prescribed stimulant drugs. And while I think antipsychotics are awful medications that should be phased out of practice due to the potential for damaging side effects, as a blunt mechanism for pulling someone out of a psychotic episode, they do tend to work for that intended purpose.
With other issues I think is where it starts to get tenacious. Concepts like depression, being suicidal, etc are so vaguely defined that people with two very different issues can be placed in the same category, and what works for one person may not work for another because their fundamental problem doesn't match. An acute episode of being suicidal that goes away after two or three days is not the same as someone who has been actively self harming and longing for death since they were a teenager. Yet, the mental health system will always regard these two situations as the same, and put forward the exact same treatments for both parties.
It always feels like the system is tailored towards acute episodes, and short term illness. When you get into the territory of long standing problems, I think it's more difficult to find anything helpful, in my own personal experience. Because for a lot of complex issues, there just aren't any evidence based treatments available. For myself, autism is at the crux of many of my issues, but there is absolutely nothing that can be done about that. Quite literally, many of us are told we just have to cope and get by the rest of our lives and aren't offered anything.
The fundamental problem is that research moves at a snail's pace and the healthcare field is a minefield of liability. No one wants to take risks or gambles due to the potential for lawsuits and accountability, so getting new treatments to the market is an insanely slow process, and even if something does show promise in a trial, once again the liability issue makes it difficult for doctors to actually try new things or manage risk. It's a pretty shitty system, and I think the potential to help people would ultimately be increased if doctors cared more about trying to help patients no matter what rather than pissing their pants over liability concerns every two seconds.
uglyugly
Student
- Aug 24, 2024
- 164
No, I don't think anyone outside of me in the "medical" feild can help. No fucking way am I drugging myself into oblivion or paying some jackass therapist to pretend to care. Not trying to suggest that others should not seek help if they want to and that it would not work - it might.
I figure it this way: I will either fix my problems myself or they won't be fixed. Because IMO if I rely on drugs and therapy then I am letting someone else fix me and they will mold me in their image and not mine. No thanks. I'd rather be me even if me sucks.
I figure it this way: I will either fix my problems myself or they won't be fixed. Because IMO if I rely on drugs and therapy then I am letting someone else fix me and they will mold me in their image and not mine. No thanks. I'd rather be me even if me sucks.
EvisceratedJester
|| What Else Could I Be But a Jester ||
- Oct 21, 2023
- 3,467
For some people, treatment does help and for others, it does not. It depends on many factors, such as the mental illness they have, the severity of it, along with how they, as an individual, respond to treatment. Tbh, I don't get the point of this question.
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