Do NOT ship SN into Australia

[limaneta]

I have seen a couple people from Australia trying to see how to get access to SN here.
You cannot buy SN as an individual (only commercial purposes) in Australia.
You also can NOT order SN to Australia.
You can try. The sellers overseas will warn you but will still post it.
When it arrives in Australia it will be flagged and stopped at the border by Australia Border Force and two cops will be sent to destination of the package for a welfare check. They will come knocking at your door. The SN will remain with ABF.
You can try calling them(ABF) beforehand but when I did they said it's probably fine then all THAT still happened.
I have no idea if coming with SN on your person into the border works or buying it off someone who somehow has some within Australia does too but if you do not want cops knocking on your door; do not ship SN into Australia from anywhere!!!

 

[Ol Messier 87]

This is the kind of thing I dread too, but with France.

 

[enduringwinter]

Damn why are they like this

As if high surveillance and governments being total shit in general ain't what's pushing people to a dead end in the first place

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

That's total oppression prison slavery injustice .

We are all going to die anyway . Why do they want to keep us suffering until we die anyway? What is wrong with those monsters? They are pure evil

 

[Pluto]

 

[Ol Messier 87]

That's a highly toxic product, so that's quiet quite normal that it is subject to significant surveillance at the borders. Even if, in this case, it doesn't serve our interests.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

This is the kind of thing I dread too, but with France.

If you order from within the EU it's highly unlikely you will get a welfare check or anything. There're no customs controls/border controls within the EEA.

 

[Manfrotto99]

This maybe the case but not always. There are people in Australia who have bought it online in EU and imported it here only recently with no problems at all.

 

[Ol Messier 87]

If you order from within the EU it's highly unlikely you will get a welfare check or anything. There're no customs controls/border controls within the EEA.

You're probably right, and that's what I also thought at first, but not having any particular knowledge on a legal level, and in particular on the laws which could concern the ordering and delivery of such products, even within the EU (because the legislation obviously changes from a country to another), I admit that it's enough to make me a little tense.

 

[limaneta]

This maybe the case but not always. There are people in Australia who have bought it online in EU and imported it here only recently with no problems at all.

I agree; they may not catch all the packages but it is a good chance they will. It's a worse experience than I described it. Could be worse because the other people I talked to that this happened to as well, ended up being taken to a psych ward. Who is willing to take the chance?

Also after the ordeal, ABF keeps sending letters to get you to contact them about it and explain.

My landlord was not okay at all with police showing up at the door, my lease was not renewed and I had to stay on someone's couch until I could find another rental. All just terrible. Don't risk it. If you do, weigh the risks v benefits.

 

[Timothy7dff]

If I couldn't find an SN source, I would use the YouTube videos on how to make SN from sodium nitrate. It's not THAT complicated.

 

[singingcrow]

idk what to do now because this was going to be my method :(

 

[dogthebenzohunter]

Also don't mention suicide on RuneScape. Had 2 cops show up to my door. I just told them I was smithing and joking around. They didn't understand smithing.

 

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

You also can NOT order SN to Australia.

I'm sorry but this is not at all true.

When it arrives in Australia it will be flagged and stopped at the border by Australia Border Force and two cops will be sent to destination of the package for a welfare check. They will come knocking at your door. The SN will remain with ABF.

Also not true. Nope.

You can try calling them(ABF) beforehand but when I did they said it's probably fine then all THAT still happened.

Perhaps calling border forces was what triggered your incident. I can't speak to your personal experiences, all of that may well have happened to you. It didn't happen to me & you definitely don't get to speak to mine. Perhaps if you wanted to be helpful to other Australians you could share who your source was as that could also be your issue.
But although hard to source, SN is not illegal in Australia. I know that multiple OS sellers send to Australia regularly, without a single hiccup. Suppliers that lie on the package. Suppliers that tell the truth. It's not illegal. I was completely terrified of customs, of welfare checks, absolutely terrified. And none of that happened to me or any of the other Aussies I know here. I ordered from DMC without a hitch. B from Poland send here without a hitch. There are others but my only personal experience is with DMC.

.if you do not want cops knocking on your door; do not ship SN into Australia from anywhere!!!

Again, just not true. I feel bad if this has been your genuine experience. Again, I can't know your circumstances. But if you're legitimate, please share who you purchased from & what triggered the welfare check etc. I absolutely despise the idea that people may have read your post as fact - the "do not ship SN into Australia from anywhere!!!" bit is wrong & not up for debate. Any Aussies out there that read this & still want SN, reach out to other Aussie's who had success - I used DMC, but reach out to others & find who they used. And reach out to OP directly to see who they used that caused such trouble. I know it wasn't DMC. I highly doubt it's B from Poland. And a lot of the labs send here regularly too. Please don't be put off by one person speaking for everyone.

 

[Dot]

Also don't mention suicide on RuneScape. Had 2 cops show up to my door. I just told them I was smithing and joking around. They didn't understand smithing.

Smithng on osrs mkes slf wn2 ctb tbf

 

[crystalziline]

I have seen a couple people from Australia trying to see how to get access to SN here.
You cannot buy SN as an individual (only commercial purposes) in Australia.
You also can NOT order SN to Australia.
You can try. The sellers overseas will warn you but will still post it.
When it arrives in Australia it will be flagged and stopped at the border by Australia Border Force and two cops will be sent to destination of the package for a welfare check. They will come knocking at your door. The SN will remain with ABF.
You can try calling them(ABF) beforehand but when I did they said it's probably fine then all THAT still happened.
I have no idea if coming with SN on your person into the border works or buying it off someone who somehow has some within Australia does too but if you do not want cops knocking on your door; do not ship SN into Australia from anywhere!!!

I'm worried this would be the case for NZ too. I'm also too impatient to wait. I'd ideally like a method that is painless, yesterday.

 

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

I'm worried this would be the case for NZ too. I'm also too impatient to wait. I'd ideally like a method that is painless, yesterday.

Perhaps search here for NZ / New Zealand & see what comes up? People who had success importing to your country. Or do a thread asking for help? Or reach out to reliable sources to see if they successfully import to NZ.
As I posted above, I successfully received in Australia, not an issue in the world, not a single one. OP spoke for everyone with all the bits about you can't ship from anywhere stuff, it's simply untrue for Australia. I won't speak for everyone but I had success. Perhaps you will too, if you so choose. Best of luck.

 

[Fate]

I'm from Australia, and my SN arrived with no issues!

 

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

I'm from Australia, and my SN arrived with no issues!

Congratulations!!
And thank you for sharing an Australian success on this highly inaccurate thread.
I received SN in Australia too & made a thread called
"SN in Australia -YES YOU CAN GET IT IN 2024".
If you could search that thread & just copy & paste your above message (or add more details if you're comfortable), that would be absolutely amazing.
To help fellow Australians that come after us who may believe the whole Border Force seizure & cannot import from anywhere stuff in this thread.
But if not, that's completely fine too.
Best of luck to you.

 

[LunarLight]

This is the kind of thing I dread too, but with France.

SN is not a controlled substance in France, you don't have to worry. I got mine from two different sources without a hiccup.

 

[Ol Messier 87]

SN is not a controlled substance in France, you don't have to worry. I got mine from two different sources without a hiccup.

Thanks for your advice, and you're right, I've had mine for 2 weeks now. It wasn't that easy to find, though (I didn't want to take it from DMC, no trust).

 

[LunarLight]

Thanks for your advice, and you're right, I've had mine for 2 weeks now. It wasn't that easy to find, though (I didn't want to take it from DMC, no trust).

Good, I don't trust DMC either as he seems to keep your personal information on his computer for promotional purposes. To me, that sounds like a recipe for welfare checks once he's arrested, just like Kenneth Law from Canada…

 

[Ol Messier 87]

I don't know about this story (I heard about the SN method rather recently) and I won't be around anymore when he gets arrested anyway, but I don't trust drug dealers, no matter what their merchandise is.

 

[SixNeufUn]

I don't know about this story (I heard about the SN method rather recently) and I won't be around anymore when he gets arrested anyway, but I don't trust drug dealers, no matter what their merchandise is.

Hello, I saw you talked about France. Did you ordered from aboard?

 

[singingcrow]

Good, I don't trust DMC either as he seems to keep your personal information on his computer for promotional purposes. To me, that sounds like a recipe for welfare checks once he's arrested, just like Kenneth Law from Canada…

anyway I can avoid this happening? I haven't ordered mine from dmc yet

 

[LunarLight]

Hello, I saw you talked about France. Did you ordered from aboard?

I'm from France and did order from Poland twice.

anyway I can avoid this happening? I haven't ordered mine from dmc yet

You can avoid this by not ordering from him, or explicitly asking him to delete your data after the delivery. But you can't be sure 100% he will comply.

 

[Ol Messier 87]

Hello, I saw you talked about France. Did you ordered from aboard?

I'm from France and did order from Poland twice.

Absolument.

 

[SixNeufUn]

I'm from France and did order from Poland twice.

You can avoid this by not ordering from him, or explicitly asking him to delete your data after the delivery. But you can't be sure 100% he will delete it.

Oh I am from France too. I never thought there will be French people . Pourquoi je parle anglais en fait ptdr. Enchanté en tout cas. Honnêtement je suis à point ou je m'en soucis pas d'avoir une visite de la police. La sn cest juste le premier moyen et d'autres méthodes en réserve. J'ai commandé hier chez dmc et franchement j'espère ca arrivera sans encombre

 

[LunarLight]

Oh I am from France too. I never thought there will be French people . Pourquoi je parle anglais en fait ptdr. Enchanté en tout cas. Honnêtement je suis à point ou je m'en soucis pas d'avoir une visite de la police. La sn cest juste le premier moyen et d'autres méthodes en réserve. J'ai commandé hier chez dmc et franchement j'espère ca arrivera sans encombre

Oui, il y a quelques français ici même si nous ne sommes pas bien nombreux. Il n'y aura pas de visite de la police rassure-toi, les gens en parlent ici pour faire peur mais j'explique dans ce thread pourquoi il n'y a pas à s'inquiéter.

 

[TheLonelyReaper]

I have seen a couple people from Australia trying to see how to get access to SN here.
You cannot buy SN as an individual (only commercial purposes) in Australia.
You also can NOT order SN to Australia.
You can try. The sellers overseas will warn you but will still post it.
When it arrives in Australia it will be flagged and stopped at the border by Australia Border Force and two cops will be sent to destination of the package for a welfare check. They will come knocking at your door. The SN will remain with ABF.
You can try calling them(ABF) beforehand but when I did they said it's probably fine then all THAT still happened.
I have no idea if coming with SN on your person into the border works or buying it off someone who somehow has some within Australia does too but if you do not want cops knocking on your door; do not ship SN into Australia from anywhere!!!

Does someone know how can we get sn in Italy?