LiveSlowDieFast

LiveSlowDieFast

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Nov 14, 2018
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I'm still pretty young (early twenties) and while I completely understand when people on here say that those of my age still have a good chance of seeing things get better for them, I simply cannot see anything good happening in the future. I explained why I feel that way in a text I initially wrote to a friend on here, but now I was wondering if others can relate as well:

"I guess it's of course to a degree the usual depression stuff (no joy, self-hate, no motivation etc.), but recently I also felt this sense of utter hopelessness more strongly than ever before. I dunno if I ever talked about what's going with my family, but in the past months 2 of my grandparents have already died, one was my paternal grandfather and one my maternal grandmother. Of course it's natural since they were quite old, but especially my grandmother suffered immensely due to cancer in her last few months, which of course especially took a toll on my mom.

Left behind are my maternal grandfather, who is just extremely sad to look at because he is so lonely and hasn't really got anyone to talk to, except my mom and one of my uncles. The other person is my paternal grandmother who is suffering from dementia, which is brutal on my dad and the rest of the family. She isn't so far gone that she is completely unaware either. She mostly doesn't recognise us anymore (including my dad and his brothers), but she is also aware that something is "wrong", which in turn makes her suffer and that of course takes a toll on my dad and so on.

What I'm trying to get at is that my parents are watching their parents die horribly and it's been pretty awful on them. My parents are nearing their 60s now and they've had me quite late. Basically I know that what happens or has happened to my grandparents will happen to my parents soon too. They'll get cancer and die in pain in a death that will drag on for months or years, or they'll helplessly watch as their mind decays and they eventually forget who me or my sister are. My mother is already getting much more forgetful than before.

I know everyone goes through this eventually, but I just don't think I'll be able to deal with it.

But that's not all.

There is also stuff that isn't related to me personally. The past few months I have completely stopped following the news, because they make me so anxious. Occasionally something will slip through though.

I've been reading more and more about climate change and its effects and it gives me a sense of terror I can't quite put into words. Every terrifying prediction scientists make is follow by one that is even more terrifying in the light of new data and such. We can already feel the effects today and it will only get worse. We genuinely are going to see a ecological and sociological collapse within our lifetimes unlike anything humans have ever experienced.

I just don't see anything positive that will happen in my future. Even if I do recover, how much time is there left before I'll watch my parents die horribly and until the effects of climate change will have made life unbearable? The more I think about all of this the more I just want to kill myself. Selfishly so, just so that I won't have to go through that pain."
 
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Redt2go

Redt2go

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Yes I feel everything you're saying here. Today I had a good dream so things seem a bit brighter... It's a bit difficult to distinguish the difference between my depressive realism and my hopelessness as a symptom of depression.
 
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LiveSlowDieFast

LiveSlowDieFast

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Yes I feel everything you're saying here. Today I had a good dream so things seem a bit brighter... It's a bit difficult to distinguish the difference between my depressive realism and my hopelessness as a symptom of depression.
I was wondering this too. A lot of people go through situations like mine, but seem to be fine. I was half-expecting there to be a suicide epidemic amongst climate scientists, but most of them seem to cope reasonably well.

I think these two things you mentioned might feed off of each other; depression making it harder to cope with things, which makes you more upset by terrible headlines and personal tragedies, which fuels depression and so on
 
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Chlo

Chlo

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Feb 17, 2019
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Can relate to a lot of what you said @LiveSlowDieFast...also understand what's if like to have older parents. My mom is 57 and my dad is 76 (I'm 24). All my grandparents except for my maternal grandmother have died long ago, but seeing my father age is really hard to watch. He's physically relatively okay, but his OCD, anxiety, depression have gotten so much worse, it's sad and makes me wonder if my and brother's mental problems will only get worse as we get older.


Yes I feel everything you're saying here. Today I had a good dream so things seem a bit brighter... It's a bit difficult to distinguish the difference between my depressive realism and my hopelessness as a symptom of depression.

This reminded me of how I've been mistaking my dreams for reality. In a dream I had yesterday, I had $50 to spare, and I woke up looking for it today only to be disappointed lol.
 
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LiveSlowDieFast

LiveSlowDieFast

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Can relate to a lot of what you said @LiveSlowDieFast...also understand what's if like to have older parents. My mom is 57 and my dad is 76 (I'm 24). All my grandparents except for my maternal grandmother have died long ago, but seeing my father age is really hard to watch. He's physically relatively okay, but his OCD and anxiety and depression has gotten so much worse, it's sad.
So sorry to hear that about your dad.
 
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Chlo

Chlo

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So sorry to hear that about your dad.

Ohh it's okay. ♥️ He lives in my home state still so I can't see him, but my mom helps him out, and he manages to keep a pretty decent social circle all things considering, so there's that.
 
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LiveSlowDieFast

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Ohh it's okay. ♥️ He lives in my home state still so I can't see him, but my mom helps him out, and he manages to keep a pretty decent social circle all things considering, so there's that.
I'm glad to hear he at least has people around him to keep him company, since so many old people suffer from so much loneliness :)
 
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JustAboutDone

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I know I'm really old so this thread doesn't apply to me so forgive me for poking my snout in.

But...

I had a couple of points.
One. Definitely, yes, hopelessness and anxiety is or can be part and parcel of depression or a depressive illness e.g. season affected disorder or such like or social anxiety or OCD . If you haven't seen a doctor it may be worth a visit to talk it over.

Second, I do think your generation has the downside of the bombardment of negative information from the media. There is lots of happy stories each day in towns and cities but that doesn't sell papers and no one is interested so news is mostly terror and murder and no jobs and no money etc etc and with t'internet this is shoved in your face 24/7.

Three. (I'll stop soon I promise) a lot of you will suffer from having to deal with Parental Expectations and Social Expectations which are a heavy and tedious cross to bear. It's this weird notion parents have that you must be SUCCESSFUL so they can be PROUD and brag about you to their friends/aunts etc

Plus you are supposed to be WILDLY SOCIABLE at age 16-25 with thousands of friends and party all the time and be amazing at school and college. Well just Fck all that tbh. Stick on a pair of blinkers and find your way through the maze and you WILL come out the other side as just perfectly fine lovely people. You just need to find your own groove, the things YOU like and do things YOUR way
 
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Autumn Winter

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I know I'm really old so this thread doesn't apply to me so forgive me for poking my snout in.

But...

I had a couple of points.
One. Definitely, yes, hopelessness and anxiety is or can be part and parcel of depression or a depressive illness e.g. season affected disorder or such like or social anxiety or OCD . If you haven't seen a doctor it may be worth a visit to talk it over.

Second, I do think your generation has the downside of the bombardment of negative information from the media. There is lots of happy stories each day in towns and cities but that doesn't sell papers and no one is interested so news is mostly terror and murder and no jobs and no money etc etc and with t'internet this is shoved in your face 24/7.

Three. (I'll stop soon I promise) a lot of you will suffer from having to deal with Parental Expectations and Social Expectations which are a heavy and tedious cross to bear. It's this weird notion parents have that you must be SUCCESSFUL so they can be PROUD and brag about you to their friends/aunts etc

Plus you are supposed to be WILDLY SOCIABLE at age 16-25 with thousands of friends and party all the time and be amazing at school and college. Well just Fck all that tbh. Stick on a pair of blinkers and find your way through the maze and you WILL come out the other side as just perfectly fine lovely people. You just need to find your own groove, the things YOU like and do things YOUR way


This is 100% true for me. And I also can't live with the fact that I'll disappoint my parents by not being able to get my degree and then a great job. I don't want to become a loser and a leech.
 
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JustAboutDone

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This is 100% true for me. And I also can't live with the fact that I'll disappoint my parents by not being able to get my degree and then a great job. I don't want to become a loser and a leech.

If you truly believe your parents will be disappointed then they are not being very good parents. I think parents keep piling the pressure on these days and it's really taking its toll on the mental health of your generation and it's so wrong. Your parents should be proud of you for being you - a caring kind human being. You don't have to finish your degree to prove or achieve anything. It's a good thing to have but not getting it doesn't make you a failure.
 
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mpti

mpti

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Feb 19, 2019
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I can relate somewhat. I'm young too, and I just don't see myself doing anything with my life. And I don't know if I really even want to. I just don't have much of a work ethic, at least not anymore, and that combined with my utter lack of close friends and a romantic relationship has left me feeling hopeless and generally empty.

I think a lot about how I could have several decades left to live, and I can't imagine them being better than my life so far. I just want to be done.
 
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easywayout

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Jan 6, 2020
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I can relate somewhat. I'm young too, and I just don't see myself doing anything with my life. And I don't know if I really even want to. I just don't have much of a work ethic, at least not anymore, and that combined with my utter lack of close friends and a romantic relationship has left me feeling hopeless and generally empty.

I think a lot about how I could have several decades left to live, and I can't imagine them being better than my life so far. I just want to be done.

Pretty much how i feel. I got no drive anymore, people ask me what i want to do and the real answer is just vanish peacefully.
 

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