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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
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The truth is that there could never be anything wrong with suicide, no matter what. I find it disturbing how people wish to remove method information and options, denying people the choice and of course it's so horrible how we have to struggle so much with leaving behind a life that we never asked for in the first place with the risks of methods failing. All those who wish to prevent suicide and just prolong suffering must be delusional. How can they be so blind to the cruel reality of this existence, what really is the benefit to existing, the reality is that life is just a terrible mistake and the fact that we can feel pain is such a horrific thing.

Surely it would be preferable to avoid all that but yet despite the way that life is being undeniable, people are still in denial and use their delusions in order to try to prolong people's suffering and force people to stay here. Do these people really want to reach old age where they will deteriorate and just die anyway. Wouldn't they rather control when they die as after all, we will all die someday. We at least deserve the option to be able to exit without stigma, secrecy and complications involved.

Life itself really is so unnecessary and is the cause of all problems after all. The idea that life is overall a positive thing is a lie, it's objectively not true. So many people are trapped in all these horrible situations. Life exists to cause people to suffer all for the sake of it and life will likely just get worse the longer that humans exist. So of course it's certainly disturbing when people say things like 'suicide is never a way out'. They don't understand what others go through and they cannot see life from their point of view as they are not experiencing their life, so how could they say that. They have no right to. To me, suicide is a perfectly rational decision, it makes sense to prevent future suffering and there should always be accessible ways out of this life, because as if there isn't then existence is nothing more than a prison. I do believe that in a life like this anyone could potentially become suicidal, it would be different if those people were forced to confront the reality of this existence if something horrible happened to them.
 
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ArchmagePrincess

ArchmagePrincess

Magical Princess of Death
Aug 31, 2022
146
It's very frustrating knowing so much of the world lives in delusion, even those close to us if we have them. I think the truth is because we all die and become nothing anyways life or death themselves don't matter. And instead of trying to take the intelligent and nuanced route of accepting that and making your own meaning from the meaninglessness of existence or ending things on your own terms they freak out and try to come up with nonsense to avoid thinking about it.

They come up with afterlives, religions, inherent value to life, meaningless platitudes, workaholism, all to avoid the reality that nothing matters. To us who live in so much pain we have already been on a journey accepting and understanding our efforts and pain ultimately don't mean anything and that absolutely, if someone doesn't want to be alive anymore, there's nothing wrong about them leaving.

But to allow us to CTB means surrendering to that truth. That it's okay to die because life isn't inherently valuable, and for some will not become positive in any sense. That's terrifying to them, so in order to keep up their delusion they must believe to CTB is wrong at any cost of logic or suffering of others.
 
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WhyBotherAnymore?

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Nov 2, 2021
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You're absolutely right. Too many people don't give it any thought as to how much suffering people are enforced to endure. They look at things from their own perspective and can't truly appreciate the full depth of the suffering so many of us have to put up with. That expression about 'walking a mile in someones shoes' springs to mind. When hope has been lost, it's so hard to keep going and yet, I can't seem to take that final step and end it. The whole thing leaves you feeling hollow!
 
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TAW122

TAW122

Emissary of the right to die.
Aug 30, 2018
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Well written post @FuneralCry. I find life itself to be the root of all problems and to perhaps address why people see death and suicide as a terrible thing, I think @ArchmagePrincess summed it up very well. I will add to her point that one part of pro-lifers' reasoning is that rights exist only because one is alive and refuse to see that free will takes precedence over conscious. Pro-lifers' believe that consciousness (existence) itself is why there are rights and by overriding consciousness itself is defying it, thus they claim suicide to be wrong as it overrides the conscious. This was something an ethics/philosophy professor once said in an conversation about rights in general (which was back in 2010 or so when I was in college/university).

I hope my explanation makes sense. Also, just fyi, I don't agree with my professor nor the pro-lifers'. I'm simply pointing out a niche, but possible piece of logic to explain why pro-lifers' think the way they do.
 

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