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So my fear and anxiety has ratcheted up by a ton recently. I had a plan to CTB and wanted to do this the best way possible. I didn't expect to have worsening symptoms. Not sure why I didn't work on that part of this but now I'm worried it's going to interfere with my ability to carry out a well thought out and fullsafe plan. I think I may need to have access to a solid plan b and soon. I wanted more time and that just sucks. I worked my ass off to get well enough I could enjoy pieces of this existence, and I did!! But surviving has been a full-time job since my older brother tried to murder me at 3 days before my 3rd birthday. Yep, I was a fucking toddler/baby!! And my skull was literally crushed...I was doing deep brain stem posturing and noone thought I could survive such a severe brain injury. Let's not even get into the fact that it was straight up child abuse. So anyways that's only the beginning. Or foundation. I'm convinced my brain has never fully recovered but I did adapt amazingly well and my life mantra has been to NEVER LET THEM WIN! But if they can try to kill a child, imagine the years of ugly, evil shit that followed. Or don't but you know what I mean....
so there is much ambivalence to know it's time to CTB and yet fighting against that my whole life, like I wanted to be dead since I was 8yrs old.
I really thought I had gotten past the worst of it.... and I did work so hard to heal as much as possible from the horror shitshow my childhood was. I was proud even. I graduated from nursing school in my 30's, I planned on writing a book and I had purpose and fight. I have a beautiful daughter. Who hasn't spoken to me in a year and sadly this encourages me to think it's time.
But my cognition is really declining. And I feel like maybe I'm running out of time....I didn't think my mind would go like it has. I always was relatively intelligent and apparently I took that for granted. I knew my health was poor and my body was broken down from all the physical abuse but my mind was actually pretty strong. Sure alot of mental "issues"but I had self awareness and focused on hope and finding answers.
Course I wish it could be different. I even think there is still hope for someone as damaged as me but it will take more then I have to find it. And I waited too long to organize shit . Story of my life, procrastinate!!
Fuck
This is so very distressing. I did see a therapist a few days ago and surprisingly she said she has no issue with me heading for euthenasia. I was straight honest about it but I made it seem like I would of do it only if I was approved for medical help. I now think my chronic pain will be dismissed as simply a symptom of psych disease and for that I need to leave the country. I can't do that for 4 years, financial reasons. I'm realizing I don't have that long and now I'm scared.
Why does life have to be such a fucking hardass battle every minute?? Ok I know it's not but shit I'd love a tiny break to catch my breath.
Hope this was ok to post. I haven't posted before so maybe I should have done more of an intro?? But this was what I was thinking about....I'm 49 years old female with cptsd, did, bipolar, horrific religious abuse abuse, genetic mutations, thyroid issues post hysterectomy, cancer history, gastrectomy and multiple surgeries with metal fusions and many traumas, physical and mental. Been a year off any medications because I can no longer process synthetic Rx well so I have Kratom for pain. And cbd/thc. History of heavy opoid use until I maxed out on methadone and realized the meds were killing me. It's frustrating because I think someone smarter and healthier then I could figure out what's going on with me and help me learn how to fix it but I suppose that's my si talking? Just wanted a different outcome. Oh and I quit smoking and totally changed my diet and noticed a big difference in some of my psych symptoms!! I would have never thought my depression could be vitamin D deficiency and or gluten/diary/sugar related!!
 
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I'm so sad that not a single person here responded. Today was so hard and I feel so alone and really hoped that someone would relate even a little. This just reinforces how bad I am at connecting with others...maybe I did something wrong but is 8 hrs typical for being ignored? Maybe it was just too long and nobody wants to read all my complaining...
 
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I wasn't on in the afternoon. I just read your post now. I'm really sorry you are going through all that pain.

I have a beautiful daughter. Who hasn't spoken to me in a year and sadly this encourages me to think it's time.

Have you thought of reaching out to her?
 
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I wasn't on in the afternoon. I just read your post now. I'm really sorry you are going through all that pain.



Have you thought of reaching out to her?

Thank you for being kind, I know we are all in pain!
She made it clear she wants space from me, yes that will probably change eventually but for now I'm respecting her desires. I just thought I'd have more time for saying goodbye....
 
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Didn't even see it to be honest....I miss posts all the time...it's not intentional. I will read the original you wrote and edit this post to respond. Don't feel intentionally ignored. We are all struggling. You didn't do anything wrong. Just bad timing.

*I read it all. Boy you've been through it for sure. As for all the "why's" nobody can answer those. If there is a plan or a god or something it's incomprehensible how it could be so cruel. About the 4 years is that to save up to go to Dignitas or something? You don't have to pay some Swiss people 10-15,000 bucks just to ctb. You can do the exact same thing where you want for about 500 bucks.

Sounds like your daughter weighs heavy on your mind...might try reaching out and seeing what happens. You want to end things now so it's not like that can get worse. Might be something positive that comes from it.

The meds really do a number on us. Long term nobody was meant to be taking chemicals but so many of us get forced into that corner for various reasons. That's not your fault...none of this is. I tried the Vitamin D and no sugar and every possible miracle cure thing as well and it didn't do a damn thing for the real problems. Never hurts to be as healthy as you can with habits, but its not enough I know.

On top of that aging just sucks...body breaking down and mind getting slower. It's entirely natural that you feel this way....and many of us can intimately empathize...sorry we can't do what you most want and fix it.

Thanks for reading and responding...I am new to online forms and just wasn't sure if maybe I'd missed some ettiquette and of course I looked at other posts and saw people responding to others and of course went to the personal even though I figured it was me being overly sensitive. Didn't used to be so thinskinned....
I only wanted to do dignitas because I guess I wanted my choice to be legitimacized for my daughter's sake. Thought it would make it easier for her to be allowed to say goodbye...it's just such a wierd balance to figure out how to say goodbye and be allowed without fear of repraisals. I am going to go ahead and get some N tho and was even considering H...having some experience (obvious fails) with OD attempts I'm just wanting a failsafe way....
I also think if someone approves me, it sort of is like medicine really jacked me up worse and feels like they shouldn't get to take away the "easier" way out when the other choices they did such damage....but maybe I'm just wanting to blame or displace responsibility?? My father was a physician and all sisters (and eventually me) RN's so I have a very ambivalent relationship with the medical community so it's all kind of mixed up some I'll admit. And it would be paid with my inheritance and something wierdly poetic about using those abusers money for my end....I have no access til then and I used to feel like it was hush money with shitton of strings attached.
Wow. Guess I still have some processing to do. Sorry but thanks for the questions as they make me rethink my choices.
Anyways appreciate the empathy, I figured I couldn't be the only one ...I know I used to grasp anything that could bring me relief but you are right it is only a drop in the bucket ...i DO miss donuts something awful tho!! Lol
 
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So my fear and anxiety has ratcheted up by a ton recently. I had a plan to CTB and wanted to do this the best way possible. I didn't expect to have worsening symptoms. Not sure why I didn't work on that part of this but now I'm worried it's going to interfere with my ability to carry out a well thought out and fullsafe plan. I think I may need to have access to a solid plan b and soon. I wanted more time and that just sucks. I worked my ass off to get well enough I could enjoy pieces of this existence, and I did!! But surviving has been a full-time job since my older brother tried to murder me at 3 days before my 3rd birthday. Yep, I was a fucking toddler/baby!! And my skull was literally crushed...I was doing deep brain stem posturing and noone thought I could survive such a severe brain injury. Let's not even get into the fact that it was straight up child abuse. So anyways that's only the beginning. Or foundation. I'm convinced my brain has never fully recovered but I did adapt amazingly well and my life mantra has been to NEVER LET THEM WIN! But if they can try to kill a child, imagine the years of ugly, evil shit that followed. Or don't but you know what I mean....
so there is much ambivalence to know it's time to CTB and yet fighting against that my whole life, like I wanted to be dead since I was 8yrs old.
I really thought I had gotten past the worst of it.... and I did work so hard to heal as much as possible from the horror shitshow my childhood was. I was proud even. I graduated from nursing school in my 30's, I planned on writing a book and I had purpose and fight. I have a beautiful daughter. Who hasn't spoken to me in a year and sadly this encourages me to think it's time.
But my cognition is really declining. And I feel like maybe I'm running out of time....I didn't think my mind would go like it has. I always was relatively intelligent and apparently I took that for granted. I knew my health was poor and my body was broken down from all the physical abuse but my mind was actually pretty strong. Sure alot of mental "issues"but I had self awareness and focused on hope and finding answers.
Course I wish it could be different. I even think there is still hope for someone as damaged as me but it will take more then I have to find it. And I waited too long to organize shit . Story of my life, procrastinate!!
Fuck
This is so very distressing. I did see a therapist a few days ago and surprisingly she said she has no issue with me heading for euthenasia. I was straight honest about it but I made it seem like I would of do it only if I was approved for medical help. I now think my chronic pain will be dismissed as simply a symptom of psych disease and for that I need to leave the country. I can't do that for 4 years, financial reasons. I'm realizing I don't have that long and now I'm scared.
Why does life have to be such a fucking hardass battle every minute?? Ok I know it's not but shit I'd love a tiny break to catch my breath.
Hope this was ok to post. I haven't posted before so maybe I should have done more of an intro?? But this was what I was thinking about....I'm 49 years old female with cptsd, did, bipolar, horrific religious abuse abuse, genetic mutations, thyroid issues post hysterectomy, cancer history, gastrectomy and multiple surgeries with metal fusions and many traumas, physical and mental. Been a year off any medications because I can no longer process synthetic Rx well so I have Kratom for pain. And cbd/thc. History of heavy opoid use until I maxed out on methadone and realized the meds were killing me. It's frustrating because I think someone smarter and healthier then I could figure out what's going on with me and help me learn how to fix it but I suppose that's my si talking? Just wanted a different outcome. Oh and I quit smoking and totally changed my diet and noticed a big difference in some of my psych symptoms!! I would have never thought my depression could be vitamin D deficiency and or gluten/diary/sugar related!!

I only just saw your post, so not ignoring you on purpose or anything. I don't usually get on the forum until the evenings.

Oh whoa, Thewhowithin69, you've been through it and then some, to thoroughly understate things. Wow, if I had been through even a small portion of the horrific traumas and hurt you have, I probably would have ctb a long time ago. I know that's not very helpful to you, but I hope you understand that I feel for you, truly. You have been amazingly, incredibly strong and brave to have survived with great successes, too, to this point, and you have every reason and right to feel proud of that. I'm glad that you do! :-)

I'm not sure I can offer anything helpful here, unfortunately. I can relate somewhat to the changes you've made to diet and habits having done similarly the past year or so. But my depression only deepened rather than lightened as those little pleasures were removed one by one. My various physical symptoms got a little better but not much else improved. Glad you got even a little relief in that regard. Good for you for quitting tobacco, not easy to do. I did it cold turkey almost 2 years ago for the third time in my life. Chewed on licorice root to help the first 3 weeks, then it's psychological craving for a while, and then I just forget about it! Easy peasy!? Yeah, sure... (roll eyes). I justified nightly med MJ when I quit, thought I'd stop when I was over the craving. Nope, still nightly smoking but it does helps me sleep (another excuse, I know, oh well, too bad for me).

I can't really speak to your psychological issues. Is your cognition level deteriorating similar to Alzheimer's? Forgetful, repetitive in conversation, motor functions getting wonky, things like that? There must be a way to convince whoever that your chronic pain is not "just psyche" related. With all the physical abuse, trauma, surgeries you've had and is no doubt well documented in your med records, you could possibly get doc assisted suicide, especially in light of what that therapist said. Are you in a state where that is legal now? I hope so, otherwise you could possibly move to one, but it takes 6 months to establish residency, I think. Still, that could be an option for you, a plan, of sorts. Your post read quite nicely so, to me, you're still pretty well here and with us. Can you speak more about what's happening in this regard?

I truly hope you can get the help you need whatever you choose to do. Please do keep us posted and I'm sure we will do our best to respond to you and just be there for you when you need us. That's what we're here for. Yes? Peace, Dearheart! :-)
 
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I only just saw your post, so not ignoring you on purpose or anything. I don't usually get on the forum until the evenings.

Oh whoa, Thewhowithin69, you've been through it and then some, to thoroughly understate things. Wow, if I had been through even a small portion of the horrific traumas and hurt you have, I probably would have ctb a long time ago. I know that's not very helpful to you, but I hope you understand that I feel for you, truly. You have been amazingly, incredibly strong and brave to have survived with great successes, too, to this point, and you have every reason and right to feel proud of that. I'm glad that you do! :-)

I'm not sure I can offer anything helpful here, unfortunately. I can relate somewhat to the changes you've made to diet and habits having done similarly the past year or so. But my depression only deepened rather than lightened as those little pleasures were removed one by one. My various physical symptoms got a little better but not much else improved. Glad you got even a little relief in that regard. Good for you for quitting tobacco, not easy to do. I did it cold turkey almost 2 years ago for the third time in my life. Chewed on licorice root to help the first 3 weeks, then it's psychological craving for a while, and then I just forget about it! Easy peasy!? Yeah, sure... (roll eyes). I justified nightly med MJ when I quit, thought I'd stop when I was over the craving. Nope, still nightly smoking but it does helps me sleep (another excuse, I know, oh well, too bad for me).

I can't really speak to your psychological issues. Is your cognition level deteriorating similar to Alzheimer's? Forgetful, repetitive in conversation, motor functions getting wonky, things like that? There must be a way to convince whoever that your chronic pain is not "just psyche" related. With all the physical abuse, trauma, surgeries you've had and is no doubt well documented in your med records, you could possibly get doc assisted suicide, especially in light of what that therapist said. Are you in a state where that is legal now? I hope so, otherwise you could possibly move to one, but it takes 6 months to establish residency, I think. Still, that could be an option for you, a plan, of sorts. Your post read quite nicely so, to me, you're still pretty well here and with us. Can you speak more about what's happening in this regard?

I truly hope you can get the help you need whatever you choose to do. Please do keep us posted and I'm sure we will do our best to respond to you and just be there for you when you need us. That's what we're here for. Yes? Peace, Dearheart! :-)

Thank you onegoodreason!
I moved to Oregon a year ago specifically for their euthenasia laws aws my health was still bad(thought my cancer had returned), had a spinal tumor and just wasn't getting anywhere with health care treatment....then I did all those lifestyle/diet changes and saw some improvements (my tumor actually shrunk and they now think maybe it was cyst instead??) But like the other poster said all these changes have added to my depression cuz now I can't even enjoy the "bad foods" that usually brought comfort!! I try to be positive and I wish I had known 30 years ago that things like diet could play a role in my feeling better. Now it's all too little too late honestly....
The cognitive stuff does feel like dementia/alzhiemers stuff and then I read that bipolar actual does degenerate your brain if you continue to cycle and while I'm still insure if that's an accurate diagnosis, something is wrong and getting worse!! Was just told I have fibromyalgia and I thought of course I do....sheesh
Maybe it's just that not being on any meds anymore means I'm not snowed and I'm finding this life too painful in too many ways to keep surviving ....when I realize I've been medicated my whole life and only been off for the past year well maybe that's a big part of the problem!! I just don't know how to fight any more tho....I'm fairly exhuasted!!
Sorry your here too but so appreciate your kindness in reaching out!
I contacted a lawyer up here who can maybe help me navigate their laws but it's looking like a diagnosis still has to be terminal and I'm just not sure about fighting for my right to die publically!!
Hope you find some peace too
 
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