Depriving us of reliable suicide methods makes us more likely to commit suicide

[Marktheghost]

I don't know for sure if that's true, but I have some (anecdotal) evidence to back it up.

I've got a reliable suicide method, and after years and years of knowing I want to kill myself, I'm feeling uncertain about it now. I was nowhere near this hesitant about it when I attempted to kill myself before, when I was nowhere near so sure I was actually going to die. Now I know I've got a nearly 100% guaranteed way of killing myself, I'm far more hesitant about it.

I think this is evidence that if people have to use an unreliable method, they're more likely to attempt suicide; and if they're more likely to attempt suicide, they're more likely to succeed in killing themselves.

 

[sadworld]

I understand. I've received a reliable method to 100% kill myself a few months ago. I was about to do it on impulse before but once I received it I felt calm and I was able to view life from a different perspective, knowing I have my safe way out. Depriving us of reliable methods might not just make a few of us more likely to commit suicide but also people will use more gory methods, like jumping in front of a train because they are not able to have a peaceful and reliable way to go.

 

[ARW3N]

I don't really know the answer to that. However, I do know that those involved in suicide prevention work on the premise that reducing the means to suicide reduces the suicide rate.

 

[DetachedDreamer97]

It's as George Sterling once said when asked why he held a vial of cyanide with him for many years: A prison becomes a home if you have the key.

For years, I was getting increasingly desperate and all I've had were methods that were not guaranteed to work, and would potentially lead to brain damage if not successful. All I desired was something that would effectively kill me by stopping the heart that will either be undetectable or be no antidote that'll effectively save me and kill me fast and with minimal pain. Since I completed my cocktail, I'm not so worried anymore. Though, there'll be a day I'll work on upgrading, but this is good enough as of now.

 

[TiGz]

Can you guys maybe name and explain some of the reliable suicide methods??

 

[TriggerHappy]

Can you guys maybe name and explain some of the reliable suicide methods??
PLEASE?!!!!
- the more I study the more I. doubt the more I struggle to focus on method (and getting it's 'elements')

PLEASE IF ANYONE HAS REALLY GOOD METHODS - I LIKE NARCOTICS / ALCOHOL / HANGING
(NOT INTO KNIVES (didn't work) am opiate addict so o.d is impossible.

 

[RottenApple]

I've read that an important percentage of people that receive the approval for their euthanasia requests never take the assisted suicide option because the relief of knowing that they have a way out makes them want to go on with their lives. So, I think that there are good reasons to believe that if assisted suicide or euthanasia was available for people with suicidal ideation, it could decrease the percentage of people that finally take their own lives.

 

[DetachedDreamer97]

Can you guys maybe name and explain some of the reliable suicide methods??
PLEASE?!!!!
- the more I study the more I. doubt the more I struggle to focus on method (and getting it's 'elements')

PLEASE IF ANYONE HAS REALLY GOOD METHODS - I LIKE NARCOTICS / ALCOHOL / HANGING
(NOT INTO KNIVES (didn't work) am opiate addict so o.d is impossible.

Look into this...

TOXINS

The Dark Biology Guide to poisonous (toxic) plants and animals. The page includes a guide of nearly every poisonous plant known to man and some of the most toxic and posionous animals. It's a poison treasure trove.

www.darkbiology.com

ashweb methods: traditional a.s.h methods file

https://web.archive.org/web/2020*/8ch.net/suicide/index.html <—— Use dates within the year 2019 and back.

 

[Tkmiz_Tsukumizu]

I've read that an important percentage of people that receive the approval for their euthanasia requests never take the assisted suicide option because the relief of knowing that they have a way out makes them want to go on with their lives. So, I think that there are good reasons to believe that if assisted suicide or euthanasia was available for people with suicidal ideation, it could decrease the percentage of people that finally take their own lives.

Good album

 

[Jumping_realms]

@RottenApple I like your avatar.

I have the shirt of that album with "Sunshine", the dog, on the front.

 

[FuneralCry]

Yes, I think if euthanasia was available everywhere, it would make life more bearable knowing there was a definite way out if things got too bad. If there is no reliable methods, then people are more likely to impulse suicide as they feel trapped and they do it out of desperation.

 

[Mr2005]

Or want to at the very least

 

[TriggerHappy]

Look into this

Look into this...

TOXINS

The Dark Biology Guide to poisonous (toxic) plants and animals. The page includes a guide of nearly every poisonous plant known to man and some of the most toxic and posionous animals. It's a poison treasure trove.

www.darkbiology.com

ashweb methods: traditional a.s.h methods file

https://web.archive.org/web/2020*/8ch.net/suicide/index.html <—— Use dates within the year 2019 and back.

Thank you...
I mean it - really been struggling with everything... its gotta // gonna happen soon.
Have told my family - they're weirdly supportive, they understand my journey...
( my sister has shared willingness to smother me while I was sleeping; so wish she'd done it...)
I've told her about my method, etc :: she's concerned about legalities // my body etc.
Promised her I'd dissappear and she wouldn't have (as she put it 'inconvenience' ) of dealing with my body // crimescene.

Yeah. This ones for all you guys who's families beg you not to do it / get help etc. You lucky fuckers (count your blessings)
I'm sorry I'm hurting these days and decisions are truly heavy...

 

[DetachedDreamer97]

Look into this

Thank you...
I mean it - really been struggling with everything... its gotta // gonna happen soon.
Have told my family - they're weirdly supportive, they understand my journey...
( my sister has shared willingness to smother me while I was sleeping; so wish she'd done it...)
I've told her about my method, etc :: she's concerned about legalities // my body etc.
Promised her I'd dissappear and she wouldn't have (as she put it 'inconvenience' ) of dealing with my body // crimescene.

Yeah. This ones for all you guys who's families beg you not to do it / get help etc. You lucky fuckers (count your blessings)
I'm sorry I'm hurting these days and decisions are truly heavy...

No problem!
And I'm glad you have a very understanding family. I wish mine were, but ah well… My grandma is, but told me to let her know when so that she'll ctb (I'm likely not). I'll try to count my blessings. Though I'll say there is one person that is pulling me away from the abyss, and it's not family. It's a lady friend I met online. But there'll be a day I'll have to do what I gotta do.

If I may, what method did you choose?

 

[cantseethelight]

I don't know for sure if that's true, but I have some (anecdotal) evidence to back it up.

I've got a reliable suicide method, and after years and years of knowing I want to kill myself, I'm feeling uncertain about it now. I was nowhere near this hesitant about it when I attempted to kill myself before, when I was nowhere near so sure I was actually going to die. Now I know I've got a nearly 100% guaranteed way of killing myself, I'm far more hesitant about it.

I think this is evidence that if people have to use an unreliable method, they're more likely to attempt suicide; and if they're more likely to attempt suicide, they're more likely to succeed in killing themselves.

Yeah I can completely resonate with this too. Having also had years of suicidal ideation and finally attempting it in 2014, after hitting "rock bottom" with a method that looking back could have taken me out pretty effortlessly. And that was more out of panic/impulse.

now that I have found a method that seems to be definite in the result one executed, I'm not really sure how to go about it. And suddenly questioning whether a future self would regret making this decision.

but back to your point, if I hadn't had such a sure way of going, I would be looking into whatever I could to get out.

 

[Freelyffe88]

Depriving people of painless/reliable suicide methods causes more people to continue suffering in their lives whereas they otherwise wouldn't. Think of all the people who are on their death beds slowly dying over the course of days, weeks, months, etc. If they had an option of taking something like Nembutal or being in agony for a questionable period of time... the vast majority would take the Nembutal. That's an extreme example, but I think it still applies to people who are suffering through life as well.

Figuring out your method and receiving whatever it is that you need to carry it out, is almost certainly going to have a calming effect, because you know that you're not trapped and have a way out if need be. It definitely had a calming effect on me when I received my SN. For the most part I think if people had an easy/pain free suicide option available to them, a lot more people would commit suicide... but i don't think that's a bad thing. People should have self ownership and they should have this choice. No one should have the right to dictate to you what they think is in your best self interest.

There's also many layers associated with suicide. Many people go through a process of thinking they want to commit suicide, but often times the distance between that, having the method in front of them and carrying out the act is pretty drastic. Many people change their mind when it gets to the last step. Someone who doesn't have the option/resources to get to that last step will possibly continue thinking that they want to die, but can't, whereas the person who's faced it and changed their mind could move on knowing that they don't want to die. Anyways, I see having a reliable suicide option available to everyone as an astronomically positive thing.

 

[cantseethelight]

Depriving people of painless/reliable suicide methods causes more people to continue suffering in their lives whereas they otherwise wouldn't. Think of all the people who are on their death beds slowly dying over the course of days, weeks, months, etc. If they had an option of taking something like Nembutal or being in agony for a questionable period of time... the vast majority would take the Nembutal. That's an extreme example, but I think it still applies to people who are suffering through life as well.

Figuring out your method and receiving whatever it is that you need to carry it out, is almost certainly going to have a calming effect, because you know that you're not trapped and have a way out if need be. It definitely had a calming effect on me when I received my SN. For the most part I think if people had an easy/pain free suicide option available to them, a lot more people would commit suicide... but i don't think that's a bad thing. People should have self ownership and they should have this choice. No one should have the right to dictate to you what they think is in your best self interest.

There's also many layers associated with suicide. Many people go through a process of thinking they want to commit suicide, but often times the distance between that, having the method in front of them and carrying out the act is pretty drastic. Many people change their mind when it gets to the last step. Someone who doesn't have the option/resources to get to that last step will possibly continue thinking that they want to die, but can't, whereas the person who's faced it and changed their mind could move on knowing that they don't want to die. Anyways, I see having a reliable suicide option available to everyone as an astronomically positive thing.

Very well put. Are you from the U.K.?

 

[Anonymous_A]

If somebody really wanted to die.
Like absolutely die, they've reached the point of no return then they'd hang them self
I honestly doubt most people who do ctb don't look endlessly for methods. Maybe a few searches here and there but I doubt a lot of vigorous research.
Heck even kids (as young as 10) hang them self, I doubt they look around much tbh

N is the most 'painless' way to ctb around here. Yet people still question it, they doubt it and look for ways to why it wouldn't work on them.

If there was a 100% sure way, people would still doubt it. Can't really win lol

 

[Freelyffe88]

Very well put. Are you from the U.K.?

No, I'm from the U.S.