Resource Demystification of carbon monoxide

[Tristevie]

What seems to be the first is that with carbon monoxide, thought is put to the test, it is an opportunity to fight prejudices which are always stubborn and dangerous, no doubt it is also an opportunity to tame this ever-possible death, whether we like it or not.

What is certain: the suicide, and especially that with carbon monoxide does not date from yesterday, as an example here is a PDF on this method used in France from 1890 to 1899:

http://www.biusante.parisdescartes.fr/sfhm/hsm/HSMx2015x049x003_4/HSMx2015x049x003_4x0427.pdf

(sorry PDF in french)

So this is to explore this enigma on the success of this method, it proves that a small room, ppm tester, or the use of adhesive tape is by no means necessary, reading the articles of the past.

Finally, suicide escapes this growing grip of political power over the bare life of individuals by keeping alive and healthy. October 2018, in Seville, John and Hani commits suicide with carbon monoxide, in the eyes of the general public this suicide remains an enigmatic event...

https://www.google.fr/amp/s/amp.elmundo.es/andalucia/2018/10/17/5bc61fa422601d85758b4577.html

(in Spanish)


"That you have lived enough depends on your will, not on the number of your years." "No matter when your life comes to an end, it is all there, the value of life does not lie in duration, but in what we have done." (Montaigne)

 

[dreamsofdestruction]

it is an opportunity to fight prejudices

What would you say are the most common prejudices?

 

[Tristevie]

@dreamsofdestruction, how in a context entirely oriented towards life, where everything is done to live better and longer can one want to kill oneself(?) Of course, according to our well-meaning media, prejudice comes from the lack of information we have on this subject, no press will make the ideology of a method that has been working for more than 100 years ...

Yes, I could read that this phenomenon came from Asia LOL, by reading some book of the past we count all their lies, to meditate...

 

[Alucard]

So, carbon monoxide is a painless way to commit suicide ?

Burn charcoal in a room, wait outside and enter the room when it is smoky, it works ?

Is it not better to be sure that you have reached 10,000 ppm ? Just a question.

 

[SelfHatingAspie]

So, carbon monoxide is a painless way to commit suicide ?

Burn charcoal in a room, wait outside and enter the room when it is smoky, it works ?

Is it not better to be sure that you have reached 10,000 ppm ? Just a question.

The challenging part is to find a CO meter that reads above 1,000ppm. I've looked into this on and off for a number of years, and I'm yet to find a meter that can measure up to 10,000ppm.

 

[jake3d]

Yeah there was a meter that read up to that at a reasonable price but it's been discontinued.

 

[SelfHatingAspie]

Yeah there was a meter that read up to that at a reasonable price but it's been discontinued.

Ah nuts. Might have to check eBay for secondhand CO meters, then. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[jake3d]

Well it still was in the $200 range so... You could just buy SN.

 

[SelfHatingAspie]

Well it still was in the $200 range so... You could just buy SN.

I've not done as much research into SN as I have into CO, but it's definitely on my shortlist.

 

[Tristevie]

@Alucard, absolutly, the articles of press that I could read on the subject go in this direction, which can be called « soft suicide » so yes painless, the Spanish article that I put in link confirms for example.

For the smoke that it releases it is part of the drawbacks of this method, lighting outdoors or balcony and then put it in the room seems more suitable for me, after this is just my opinion, but know that I have no doubt that this method works.

As for the tester PPM itself, is the 10000 to reach, as you could note with the PDF in French, this method in 1890 already had an effectiveness recognized by the French press, and this famous tester was far from existed at At this time, here I hope I have answered your doubts at best.

 

[jake3d]

I've not done as much research into SN as I have into CO, but it's definitely on my shortlist.

SN's poisoning mechanism is very similar to CO. Both attach to your red blood cells and remove the oxygen from them. That's pretty much all you need to know.

 

[LivingToLong]

Charcoal burning sounds like a really interesting method to me and not one I've heard/read of before either. I like the sound of it; simple, easily obtainable and seemingly painless and effective. Where do I sign up?

OD on commonly available drugs isn't guaranteed, helium/nitrogen (in pure form) not easy to get... other methods seem less attractive to me now.

 

[jake3d]

This is a really interesting method to me and not one I've heard/read of before either. I like the sound of it; simple, easily obtainable and seemingly painless and effective. Where do I sign up?

You can get it from eBay (PM for trusted supplier if you're in Europe), Amazon and even Walmart in the US. The substance is legal almost everywhere and cheap, it is commonly used for preserving meat.

I have also made a tutorial on how to test it (it's not very accurate, but good enough, search my posts) to make sure it hasn't been watered down with common salt.

It is not a completely painless method but based on available data it will hurt less than some of the other poisoning methods (like sodium azide or cyanide) and does not absolutely require the use of heavy sedatives (although you can have some if you like). It is also fully reversible in hospital, there is an antidote for the condition it causes in the body, so if you change your mind after you take it, call an ambulance and you'll be ok.

 

[Tristevie]

The one and only interest of climbing to 10000 PPM is its fast action, in 3 minutes you can leave this world ... dying in 2 hours or 3 minutes is the same in my opinion, at least we can take advantage of this temp and also the money that costs this tester for a good bottle of whiskey, a little drug, it's better to leave this life like a Rock Star.!!

attached PPM table :

35 ppm (0.0035%)	Headache and dizziness within six to eight hours of constant exposure
100 ppm (0.01%)	Slight headache in two to three hours
200 ppm (0.02%)	Slight headache within two to three hours; loss of judgment
400 ppm (0.04%)	Frontal headache within one to two hours
800 ppm (0.08%)	Dizziness, nausea, and convulsions within 45 min; insensible within 2 hours
1,600 ppm (0.16%)	Headache, increased heart rate, dizziness, and nausea within 20 min; death in less than 2 hours
3,200 ppm (0.32%)	Headache, dizziness and nausea in five to ten minutes. Death within 30 minutes.
6,400 ppm (0.64%)	Headache and dizziness in one to two minutes. Convulsions, respiratory arrest, and death in less than 20 minutes.
12,800 ppm (1.28%)	Unconsciousness after 2-3 breaths. Death in less than three minutes

 

[Tristevie]

Let's go back briefly to press articles dealing with carbon monoxide suicide :



(in English)



https://www.nationthailand.com/breakingnews/30365375



https://www.thestar.com.my/news/reg...themselves-and-their-7yearold-son-police-say/



https://www.google.fr/amp/s/evoke.i...e-used-carbon-monoxide-to-kill-themselves/amp



https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/99...lighting-charcoal-in-air-con-room-in-pattaya/



http://www.ecns.cn/m/cns-wire/2014/12-02/145050.shtml



https://www.latimes.com/world/asia/la-fg-south-korea-suicide-20171219-story.html



https://www.thestar.com.my/news/regional/2018/09/10/man-found-dead-in-pickup-with-burnedout-charcoal-stoppe/



https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12024-011-9224-y



https://www.dimsumdaily.hk/44-year-old-woman-commits-suicide-by-burning-charcoal-at-home/



https://www.google.fr/amp/s/m.times...r-painless-death/amp_articleshow/54664045.cms



https://japantoday.com/category/cri...nd-herself-in-charcoal-burning-murder-suicide



https://www.google.fr/amp/s/www.dai...-went-without-single-response-two-months.html



https://www.google.fr/amp/s/www.mir...topsy-confirms-katy-perrys-makeup-8165549.amp



https://www.dailycamera.com/2009/08/15/boulder-police-suicidal-man-burned-charcoal-in-hotel/



https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3642262



https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong...kong-couple-found-dead-suspected-suicide-pact



https://www.thephuketnews.com/man-f...-mounting-debts-71234.php#OKl752DDwzFtAlir.97



(In Spanish)



http://www.diariolaregion.cl/afecta...metio-suicidio-inhalando-monoxido-de-carbono/



(In French)



https://www.rtl.fr/actu/debats-soci...one-et-intoxiquent-trois-personnes-7780452172



I privileged the articles in English to be in adequation with the forum, but articles in various other languages are quite easily found.

 

[Joannf]

What seems to be the first is that with carbon monoxide, thought is put to the test, it is an opportunity to fight prejudices which are always stubborn and dangerous, no doubt it is also an opportunity to tame this ever-possible death, whether we like it or not.

What is certain: the suicide, and especially that with carbon monoxide does not date from yesterday, as an example here is a PDF on this method used in France from 1890 to 1899:

http://www.biusante.parisdescartes.fr/sfhm/hsm/HSMx2015x049x003_4/HSMx2015x049x003_4x0427.pdf

(sorry PDF in french)

So this is to explore this enigma on the success of this method, it proves that a small room, ppm tester, or the use of adhesive tape is by no means necessary, reading the articles of the past.

Finally, suicide escapes this growing grip of political power over the bare life of individuals by keeping alive and healthy. October 2018, in Seville, John and Hani commits suicide with carbon monoxide, in the eyes of the general public this suicide remains an enigmatic event...

https://www.google.fr/amp/s/amp.elmundo.es/andalucia/2018/10/17/5bc61fa422601d85758b4577.html

(in Spanish)


"That you have lived enough depends on your will, not on the number of your years." "No matter when your life comes to an end, it is all there, the value of life does not lie in duration, but in what we have done." (Montaigne)

These are wondeful pdfs - it's late today, let me muse about them in peace and get back to you tomorrow ;))

 

[Tristevie]

Thank you @Joannf, you I am waiting for your conclusions on these PDF, good meditation.

 

[Marz]

Thank you so much for the information. I have been strongly considering this method. I am not able to make use of it at the moment but in the future I'll make sure of it.

 

[justanotherday]

I survived carbon monoxise poisoning. It is not painless, and it can cause brain damage, breathing problems, ect...

I survived carbon monoxise poisoning. It is not painless, and it can cause brain damage, breathing problems, ect...

monoxide

 

[Windofmysoul67]

I survived carbon monoxise poisoning. It is not painless, and it can cause brain damage, breathing problems, ect...

monoxide

Are you glad you survived? You say it wasn't painless, can I ask what happened and why you weren't successful? How are you now?

 

[Windofmysoul67]

Hello!! I revieved you message saying you replied to my question but I didn't see the actual reply. Also, I cant seem to find a way to reply from the pm section so I'm writing to you from here, I hope thats okay. Would you like to resend your reply? Thank you so much

 

[Windofmysoul67]

I survived carbon monoxise poisoning. It is not painless, and it can cause brain damage, breathing problems, ect...

monoxide

Thank you so much for your pm!!! For the life of me I can't find a way to reply...so I keep having to come back to your post to reply. Any suggestions?

Anyway thank you for sharing! I'm so so sorry for your pain! I can't tell you how brave you were! I've set eveything up for CO, and I couldn't get in the shed. I don't have a ppm monitor so I don't know if I would have been successful but that combined with an od on codiene, lorazepam and alcohol should have done it but I wasn't brave enough. So here I am back in my miserable day to day existence. I'm hoping to find nembutal as its painless, quick and guaranteed. How about you? Any idea where to obtain any?

 

[justanotherday]

Thank you so much for your pm!!! For the life of me I can't find a way to reply...so I keep having to come back to your post to reply. Any suggestions?

Anyway thank you for sharing! I'm so so sorry for your pain! I can't tell you how brave you were! I've set eveything up for CO, and I couldn't get in the shed. I don't have a ppm monitor so I don't know if I would have been successful but that combined with an od on codiene, lorazepam and alcohol should have done it but I wasn't brave enough. So here I am back in my miserable day to day existence. I'm hoping to find nembutal as its painless, quick and guaranteed. How about you? Any idea where to obtain any?

I have technical difficulties with this site and trying to pm people as well. As for carbon monoxide, all I know for sure is about cars. I am a car hobby enthusiast. I had a 1981 car. Cars from then and older that have cata. converters, release plenty of carbon mon. Today's cars do not.

I have technical difficulties with this site and trying to pm people as well. As for carbon monoxide, all I know for sure is about cars. I am a car hobby enthusiast. I had a 1981 car. Cars from then and older that have cata. converters, release plenty of carbon mon. Today's cars do not.

I am so sorry that you suffer, and while I am still here, alive, I am here if you need to talk.

 

[Windofmysoul67]

Thank you so very much!!! That means so much to me!!! And likewise!! There's not many places or people where you can talk openly about not wanting to be here anymore. Why should I have to wait until my body gives out before I can go? That could be another 30+ years! I would love to peacefully go to sleep! That should be my right. We shouldn't have to be patching together haphazard methods, enduring more fear and pain from our attempts. If only...

 

[Dantec]

What seems to be the first is that with carbon monoxide, thought is put to the test, it is an opportunity to fight prejudices which are always stubborn and dangerous, no doubt it is also an opportunity to tame this ever-possible death, whether we like it or not.

What is certain: the suicide, and especially that with carbon monoxide does not date from yesterday, as an example here is a PDF on this method used in France from 1890 to 1899:

http://www.biusante.parisdescartes.fr/sfhm/hsm/HSMx2015x049x003_4/HSMx2015x049x003_4x0427.pdf

(sorry PDF in french)

So this is to explore this enigma on the success of this method, it proves that a small room, ppm tester, or the use of adhesive tape is by no means necessary, reading the articles of the past.

Finally, suicide escapes this growing grip of political power over the bare life of individuals by keeping alive and healthy. October 2018, in Seville, John and Hani commits suicide with carbon monoxide, in the eyes of the general public this suicide remains an enigmatic event...

https://www.google.fr/amp/s/amp.elmundo.es/andalucia/2018/10/17/5bc61fa422601d85758b4577.html

(in Spanish)


"That you have lived enough depends on your will, not on the number of your years." "No matter when your life comes to an end, it is all there, the value of life does not lie in duration, but in what we have done." (Montaigne)

Interesting your post on this method thank you

 

[John Smith]

I survived carbon monoxise poisoning. It is not painless, and it can cause brain damage, breathing problems, ect...

monoxide

Can you explain how you went about it and how long you were exposed to it,? How did it fail? How bad were your symptoms?

 

[justanotherday]

Can you explain how you went about it and how long you were exposed to it,? How did it fail? How bad were your symptoms?

I was in a small one car garage, it was only 20 degrees outside, and the garage door was open, but not fully. It was open half way. I was exposed for around 30 minutes( rough estimate). It failed because someone saw me laid out on the ground( I made my way out of the garage because the fumes were making my eyes burn really bad). I was dizzy, sick to stomache, and then started to have a hard time trying to breathe. For several months after the accident, I had spells of confused thinking. That stuff can cause brain damage.
I still get spells of confused thinking, and have breathing problems now. These are reasons why I am afraid to ever try to leave the planet now. I am a living example of what can happen in failed attempts.