Cyanide capsules for emergency CTB

[Wayfaerer]

I'm interested in creating a cyanide pill to keep in my mouth just in case I am ever involuntarily committed. I'd imagine that cyanide could be sourced from the dark web and the capsules (preferably glass) could be fabricated somehow. Do you think this could be possible?

 

[ThingWithFeathers]

When a person gets involuntarily committed, the cavities of the person are usually checked - they don't even mind checking the person's behind. Obviously they check the mouth as well. If the person is keeping the mouth shut tight, it could raise an alarm and they can keep a watch on that person. They do have antidotes readily available for such emergencies.

Other than that, I don't think it is ever a good idea to take your life impulsively or in desperation. Involuntary hospitalizations cannot be longer than 72 hours in most cases, that's 3 days. Why to kill yourself when you can wait for 3 days, no?

 

[Pan]

While on the subject, how would I locate cyanide? Any suggestions?

 

[Tearygirl]

When a person gets involuntarily committed, the cavities of the person are usually checked - they don't even mind checking the person's behind. Obviously they check the mouth as well. If the person is keeping the mouth shut tight, it could raise an alarm and they can keep a watch on that person. They do have antidotes readily available for such emergencies.

Other than that, I don't think it is ever a good idea to take your life impulsively or in desperation. Involuntary hospitalizations cannot be longer than 72 hours in most cases, that's 3 days. Why to kill yourself when you can wait for 3 days, no?

I was hospitalised longer than 3 days. It is not always the true. I agree with @Wayfaerer's thought. If i had that capsule, I'd take it yesterday.

 

[Wayfaerer]

When a person gets involuntarily committed, the cavities of the person are usually checked - they don't even mind checking the person's behind. Obviously they check the mouth as well. If the person is keeping the mouth shut tight, it could raise an alarm and they can keep a watch on that person. They do have antidotes readily available for such emergencies.

Other than that, I don't think it is ever a good idea to take your life impulsively or in desperation. Involuntary hospitalizations cannot be longer than 72 hours in most cases, that's 3 days. Why to kill yourself when you can wait for 3 days, no?

I mean to take the capsule before being admitted. They have antidotes for cyanide? Doesn't it kill in one minute flat?

 

[Pan]

I read that death is instantaneous, which is why the Nazis favored it. Hitler, I learned, tested its efficacy on his German Shepherd, Blondi

 

[k75]

What kind of spy thriller do you imagine you're living in??

I'm sorry, but really... not a good idea. This seems like an overreaction. Cyanide is a gruesome death, and it's not easy to get. It's not as fast and clean as they always show on the movies for sure. Very painful and takes a few minutes. Look up some videos if you doubt it.

Being sectioned isn't a life ending emergency. Nobody is going to torture you. They usually only hold you for a few days. Here in the US, the standard ER hold is 72 hours, unless you're really out of control. Sucks but it's really not too bad.

I think a decision like suicide should never be rushed or done on impulse. Once you're dead, you're dead. You can't take it back. I just don't like this idea.

 

[Tearygirl]

What kind of spy thriller do you imagine you're living in??

I'm sorry, but really... not a good idea. This seems like an overreaction. Cyanide is a gruesome death, and it's not easy to get. It's not as fast and clean as they always show on the movies for sure. Very painful and takes a few minutes. Look up some videos if you doubt it.

Being sectioned isn't a life ending emergency. Nobody is going to torture you. They usually only hold you for a few days. Here in the US, the standard ER hold is 72 hours, unless you're really out of control. Sucks but it's really not too bad.

I think a decision like suicide should never be rushed or done on impulse. Once you're dead, you're dead. You can't take it back. I just don't like this idea.

It's just a few minute. Seems better than many other methods. Many suicide methods take longer than that.

 

[k75]

It's just a few minute. Seems better than many other methods. Many suicide methods take longer than that.

You're in pain, distress, suffering cardiac arrest and feeling all of it. I'll take a longer death without all those things any day. I guess it doesn't bother some people, but it does me. I'm trying to escape pain, not add to it.

 

[Tearygirl]

You're in pain, distress, suffering cardiac arrest and feeling all of it. I'll take a longer death without all those things any day. I guess it doesn't bother some people, but it does me. I'm trying to escape pain, not add to it.

I'm sorry for your pain. I apologise if i offended you.

 

[k75]

I'm sorry for your pain. I apologise if i offended you.

No offense taken at all. I was maybe a little insensitive, but I always tend to approach things from a harm-reduction standpoint. I just don't see why someone would choose a painful death if there was a better alternative.

 

[Tearygirl]

No offense taken at all. I was maybe a little insensitive, but I always tend to approach things from a harm-reduction standpoint. I just don't see why someone would choose a painful death if there was a better alternative.

Some people choose a painful death because they don't have much information, lacking of time. The others take painful method because they think they don't deserve to die peacefully.

 

[a.h]

I think that some people could be afraid that if they get involuntarily admitted/prisoned they will panic and get so severe anxiety that they can't focus and get out of there in 3 days. I mean panic, anxiety and insomnia are very normal reaction in situation like that but doctors could see it wrongly as a sign of some severe psychosis etc.

The cyanide has been mentioned in Peacefull Pill book but it's not as sure to be fast and painless than other methods. Though the wrong dose could have been the reason why some were fast and painless and some weren't. Isn't there instructions in the PPH how to make it too? I have read the free, older online version of the book few years ago.

If someone buys the PPH online book they can use the forum and talk to experts and others about any method. There could be supplier in China for it. .

If someone has bought the book then maybe they could find out if there is supplier of other very peacefull methods too (other than A for N) There are many fraudsters who claim to work with Exit but some could be real.

 

[hhsp]

When a person gets involuntarily committed, the cavities of the person are usually checked - they don't even mind checking the person's behind. Obviously they check the mouth as well. If the person is keeping the mouth shut tight, it could raise an alarm and they can keep a watch on that person. They do have antidotes readily available for such emergencies.

Other than that, I don't think it is ever a good idea to take your life impulsively or in desperation. Involuntary hospitalizations cannot be longer than 72 hours in most cases, that's 3 days. Why to kill yourself when you can wait for 3 days, no?

Well if the patient does not cooperate and maybe even gets aggressive because he wants out, ,they can keep you forever in Germany. I am sure there are very few people held just because they did not cooperate and they might be showing desperate human behavior. To mix depressed people with all kinds of mental illness is not good. Sensitive people deserve a treatment designed for them. We are still in the middle ages when it comes to psyciatry or maybe 1850 without the really awful stuff I dont even want to mention.

 

[edward77]

What kind of spy thriller do you imagine you're living in??

I'm sorry, but really... not a good idea. This seems like an overreaction. Cyanide is a gruesome death, and it's not easy to get. It's not as fast and clean as they always show on the movies for sure. Very painful and takes a few minutes. Look up some videos if you doubt it.

Being sectioned isn't a life ending emergency. Nobody is going to torture you. They usually only hold you for a few days. Here in the US, the standard ER hold is 72 hours, unless you're really out of control. Sucks but it's really not too bad.

I think a decision like suicide should never be rushed or done on impulse. Once you're dead, you're dead. You can't take it back. I just don't like this idea.

i second that.. recently read an article written by a doctor that death by cyanide is not quick or peaceful as shown in movies. Its very very painful and take around 5 - 10 minutes.

 

[passenger27]

Some places barely search you at all. My fiancee sneaked a double -sided razor wrapped in toilet paper down her panties and the hospital never even told her to pull her undies down. How's that for unbelievable? I don't know if that's falling down on the job or just the US's sterling mental healthcare system, but it was a very stupid mistake. If we could all get away with that there would be more beds available at our fine mental healthcare facilities...

 

[Wayfaerer]

I've read that some guy managed to make one of these so it's definitely possible. The questions is how...

 

[TowerUpright]

Some places barely search you at all. My fiancee sneaked a double -sided razor wrapped in toilet paper down her panties and the hospital never even told her to pull her undies down. How's that for unbelievable? I don't know if that's falling down on the job or just the US's sterling mental healthcare system, but it was a very stupid mistake. If we could all get away with that there would be more beds available at our fine mental healthcare facilities...

Mental illness, sadly, isn't even considered an illness by lots in the US. I mean, how much funds and research go into mental illness compared to physical illness? And didn't I read somewhere that depression hits 1 out of 4 people in the US?

 

[miseryh8scompany]

Some places barely search you at all. My fiancee sneaked a double -sided razor wrapped in toilet paper down her panties and the hospital never even told her to pull her undies down. How's that for unbelievable? I don't know if that's falling down on the job or just the US's sterling mental healthcare system, but it was a very stupid mistake. If we could all get away with that there would be more beds available at our fine mental healthcare facilities...

lol, ya I was admitted for a week didn't get searched for nothing just no sharp objects or strings. I spat out meds, had my mom sneak in some phenibut in her purse....no problem.

 

[TAW122]

I like the idea on paper, but in practice, I don't think that seems feasible as @ThingWithFeathers said about being searched and checked for any contraband or dangerous items before/upon admittance. My fear mostly stems in losing my method of being able to check out reliably (albeit not necessarily peacefully) and I cannot and would not wish to lose that option. Since having that option available has helped me during even the most dire times and in 2019, part of the reason I was able to function and power through unfavorable odds and times was knowing that I have a reliable exit, should such a situation arise.

 

[rata1]

where do you get cyanide?

 

[TowerUpright]

Cyanide is a welding material if I recall correctly. YouTubers think they've figured out how to make it. I'm skeptical.

Find a better solution: cyanide is not the way to go.

 

[LittleJem]

I would like a cyanide pill. It's fast, it's pretty certain. I want out. I don't know where to get one - I will look on the darknet sometime. Is there a way to test if it is cyanide? You can also make your own from fruit seeds - there are videos online I think.

There is an antidote to cyanide - so you don't want to be near medical assistance when you use it: '
Antidote
The United States standard cyanide antidote kit first uses a small inhaled dose of amyl nitrite, followed by intravenous sodium nitrite, followed by intravenous sodium thiosulfate.[24] Hydroxocobalamin is newly approved in the US and is available in Cyanokit antidote kits.[25] Sulfanegen TEA, which could be delivered to the body through an intra-muscular (IM) injection, detoxifies cyanide and converts the cyanide into thiocyanate, a less toxic substance.[26] Alternative methods of treating cyanide intoxication are used in other countries.

 

[Red]

This dude did it in court:
WARNING: GRAPHIC
He takes a capsule around 40 seconds in.
Another at roughly 5 mins.
By the end of video (9mins or so) he's gone, if not dead then definitely unconscious.
Seemed distressing at the end though...