ManWithNoName

ManWithNoName

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This is a report about an elderly man who went to Switzerland to call it quits. Though he was frail, he didn't suffer from any terminal illness (which had always been a pre-requisite to solicitation of ctb through the legal channels) and based his entire request to die based on, in a nutshell, "I've had enough, thank you very much, and I now want out."

It makes one wonder if someone younger and healthier could also be granted permission to ctb.

 
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Reallyreallyreally

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It says Video Unavailable. Too bad, I'd like to watch it.
 
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ManWithNoName

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It says Video Unavailable. Too bad, I'd like to watch it.
Man that sucks. It may be blocked from viewing where you are. If your browser has VPN try using that and change your location in the VPN settings.
 
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Video working fine for me. I will watch it fully another time but for now just seen first few minutes. Poor old bugger, he's 104, makes me sad cos he's lived this long shame couldn't see his last days out naturally, rather than make it happen sooner. Coo when I imagine myself at 104 :ohh:
 
GoodPersonEffed

GoodPersonEffed

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It makes one wonder if someone younger and healthier could also be granted permission to ctb.

The answer is yes. I believe in the Netherlands if not Switzerland.
 
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ManWithNoName

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The answer is yes. I believe in the Netherlands.
I did catch the documentary out of the Netherlands about the young woman named Emily who finally got her wish for self deliverance. It took a long arduous time though. Without knowing all the details in the presentation about the elderly man, I get the impression that the process was quicker for him in Switzerland.
 
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Don't bother reading the comments under that man's in Switzerland youtube video, they are cancerous, people with no empathy who can't understand our suffering.

I looked up that Emily documentary (Belgium though?), and she still had to go through a lot to get the permission. I just wish it was easier to get permission. Few months of "evaluations" or trying to "reason" with you, and if you still want it, go ahead, despite if you in your mid-twenties, mid-forties or whatever. And I am sure in the future it will be. But for those of us hoping to go away with a professional-assisted method that could be too long. Another 10 or more years of suffering, or alternatively pulling a less pleasant method.

I believe this is the video @ManWithNoName you meant




It says out of first 100 applicants with the mental illness, 48 were accepted. I guess it is easier doing it in Belgium than in Switzerland, but still an uphill battle. Probably would need to prove you were diagnosed years ago, went through half a dozen of medications, that you have a good support network - friends and family, functioning life, etc, that you are not killing yourself over a "momentary issue" as they might deem.

Personally I have been suicidal since I was a kid, and had normal family/school environment, nothing to do with my suffering. I know what could at least alleviate my suffering, and that's what I have been focusing since I was young, until now my mid twenties. But some people don't achieve this their whole lives, so it's not like it's a given I will. And on top of my suicidal daily thoughts it makes it much harder. Even if I had a crystal ball and someone would say I could get there in 10 years, I would opt not to, as every day for last 15 years or so has been painful, even the so called "good days". And as days go by, it's getting harder and harder, especially last few years. I had my first attempt 4 years ago, and I had 2 attempts last year.

Yet I never have seen a doctor/therapist, NHS in UK is not reliable for mental health. Private therapists are costly, and reading up about them, not that good either. I have talked to friends for 5 hours at a time and that doesn't help reach any conclusion, as I have been through this more than half of my life, so I thought through everything already. Some therapist 1 or 2 hours a week wouldn't even be able to get through anything in that time.

But because I didn't get any official diagnosis, they probably wouldn't grant me a permission in Belgium, even if my suffering is no lesser than those 48 who were accepted.
 
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I believe that everyone should be able to get voluntary euthanasia when they are tired of life. As far as the 104-year old man, I agree with his decision as he shouldn't have to live through more suffering if he's simply tired of 'life'.
 
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He can barely walk, I don't call that being healthy.
 
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Why is 104 years old considered healthy?
 
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The comments in the video are the worst
 
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ManWithNoName

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I believe this is the video @ManWithNoName you meant


Yes that's the documentary on Emily. Whatever the case, getting legal permission to ctb is probably a drawn out process still whether it be in Switzerland or Netherlands.
 
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