CTB by not drinking water (just wait 3-5 days only)

[sanction]

This might be a stupid question, and probably discussed endless times already, pretty sure most people thought of this common idea

But just curious why it is not more considered?

People would go to crazy extremes, such as blow their heads off with gun, jump off bridges and buildings, drown or hang themselves, be run over by a train, ingest poison, freeze themselves to death, some even pretend to skydive, and then take off the parachute in the sky so they can fall to their death

But how come something as simple as not drinking water for a few days, seems so impossible??? When I do a quick search on Google, it seems 3-5 days is the limit the body can survive without water

I am thinking, what if I did that, along with taking a bunch of prescribed sleeping pills, occasionally throughout those few days? So majority of the time I might even be asleep, and just wait out those few days?

Whats stopping this from being a more popular method?

 

[Wolf Girl]

Because you will not be able to resist the urge to drink lol. People think they have a lot more control over their behavior than they do. If you can't tolerate choking yourself for 15 seconds or putting a gun to your head and pulling the trigger, what makes you think you can suffer through dying of thirst while there's water on tap in the next room? Lolol

 

[redeeming_butterfly]

My opinion:
The problem with VSED is that its course is unpredictable. Every body reacts differently to this extreme situation. In the best-case scenario, you'll just feel extremely thirsty and fall into a coma after 3-5 days and never wake up. In the worst case, you go through other things and it doesn't go "quickly" but you have to suffer for 2 weeks.
It's a question of discipline. How badly do you want to die? And how much are you prepared to suffer?
I'm quite sure it's possible and I'm considering the method myself. But it will be an agonisingly long procedure either way. That's what puts most people off.

 

[sanction]

Because you will not be able to resist the urge to drink lol. People think they have a lot more control over their behavior than they do. If you can't tolerate choking yourself for 15 seconds or putting a gun to your head and pulling the trigger, what makes you think you can suffer through dying of thirst while there's water on tap in the next room? Lolol

Is it really that simple? Of course I am not disagreeing with you, or trying to debate

I'm genuinely trying to understand. What if I went out into the woods or far out in nature, where there is no water close by. Maybe I'll bring some bottled water at first, but once it runs out, I will have none left, and maybe will need to travel at least a few hours to find the next closest source of water

And then I repeat the same. I occasionally take strong prescribed sleeping pills, maybe even painkillers, throughout those 3-5 days, so most of the time I'm asleep, and if any discomfort, maybe the painkillers will make it more bearable, and then just wait it out??

Or do you think survival instinct will still kick in, and will just end up quitting the method half way through, and rush to go find water, even if its a few hours away?

 

[Wolf Girl]

Is it really that simple? Of course I am not disagreeing with you, or trying to debate

I'm genuinely trying to understand. What if I went out into the woods or far out in nature, where there is no water close by. Maybe I'll bring some bottled water at first, but once it runs out, I will have none left, and maybe will need to travel at least a few hours to find the next closest source of water

And then I repeat the same. I occasionally take strong prescribed sleeping pills, maybe even painkillers, throughout those 3-5 days, so most of them I'm either asleep, and if any discomfort, maybe the painkillers will make it more bearable, and then just wait it out??

Or do you think survival instinct will still kick in, and will just end up quitting the method half way through, and rush to go find water, even if its a few hours away?

If survival instinct has kicked in during any other method, it will kick in in this method, too. People will shoot themselves in the head, survive, and then spend two hours dragging themselves to a phone to call 911. You will attempt to crawl for water on hands and knees while drifting in and out of consciousness from sleeping pills.

 

[sanction]

If survival instinct has kicked in during any other method, it will kick in in this method, too. People will shoot themselves in the head, survive, and then spend two hours dragging themselves to a phone to call 911. You will attempt to crawl for water on hands and knees while drifting in and out of consciousness from sleeping pills.

Haha I like your last sentence. You explained it pretty nicely

"You will attempt to crawl for water on hands and knees while drifting in and out of consciousness from sleeping pills"

Which has given me an idea. We should go do this together. But instead, I am the one that does it, and then by the time I am desperate and begin crawling while half consciousness, you film me, and then post it on Tik Tok

After it goes viral, we split the money earned from the views since it seems kind of funny to watch

 

[redeeming_butterfly]

What if I went out into the woods or far out in nature, where there is no water close by.

I don't know where you live, but humidity also has an impact, I think. If the humidity in your location is high, you are literally breathing in water. However, I don't know to what extent you would compensate for that by sweating. Just to mention it.

 

[JenX]

If you drank 2 to 3 tablespoons of salt dissolved in water, your body will die just as if you went without drinking water for five days. Hypernatremia. Soy sauce work too. Not a fun way to go but it seems effective.

Water drains from the brain trying to restore sodium balance and you go unconscious. But there's no information on how long that takes.

Like SN, it sounds incredibly painful. Vomiting, head pain, lethargy, diarrhea, unconsciousness, coma, death.

Its my backup plan if partial doesn't work.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1365-2796.2004.01411.x

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_poisoning

Can You Really Die From Too Much Soy Sauce? Yes, And It's Surprisingly Easy To Do

It's even used as a method of suicide in some places.

www.iflscience.com

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

This might be a stupid question, and probably discussed endless times already, pretty sure most people thought of this common idea

But just curious why it is not more considered?

People would go to crazy extremes, such as blow their heads off with gun, jump off bridges and buildings, drown or hang themselves, be run over by a train, ingest poison, freeze themselves to death, some even pretend to skydive, and then take off the parachute in the sky so they can fall to their death

But how come something as simple as not drinking water for a few days, seems so impossible??? When I do a quick search on Google, it seems 3-5 days is the limit the body can survive without water

I am thinking, what if I did that, along with taking a bunch of prescribed sleeping pills, occasionally throughout those few days? So majority of the time I might even be asleep, and just wait out those few days?

Whats stopping this from being a more popular method?

Stoping drinking water is very painful to me torture of extreme thirst

To me moving a finger on a trigger instant lights out is painless quick. It's only difficult because of mental stuff like fear of failure and other imo irrational fears. Easy imo if you have a shotgun or rifle just the mental block is difficult getting over

If you drank 2 to 3 tablespoons of salt dissolved in water, your body will die just as if you went without drinking water for five days. Hypernatremia. Soy sauce work too. Not a fun way to go but it seems effective.

Water drains from the brain trying to restore sodium balance and you go unconscious. But there's no information on how long that takes.

Like SN, it sounds incredibly painful. Vomiting, head pain, lethargy, diarrhea, unconsciousness, coma, death.

Its my backup plan if partial doesn't work.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1365-2796.2004.01411.x

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_poisoning

Can You Really Die From Too Much Soy Sauce? Yes, And It's Surprisingly Easy To Do

It's even used as a method of suicide in some places.

www.iflscience.com

Salt is painful and is not SN. Sn is not painful . There is only one SN.

Plus the ld50 of SN is orders of magnitude lower than salt

 

[KillingPain267]

It can take more than 5 days. 5 days is only if you are out in the wilderness dehydrating. It can take up to 2 weeks to dehydrate. Sleeping pills last only for 6-8 hours, then you wake up. If you take more again, you build tolerance and then they don't work well. Then you will start seeking water desperately. Dehydration and/starving works mostly in hospital settings where the nurses give different medications to ease the symptoms while you dehydrate. Those medications are not available over the counter.

 

[JenX]

Stoping drinking water is very painful to me torture of extreme thirst

To me moving a finger on a trigger instant lights out is painless quick. It's only difficult because of mental stuff like fear of failure and other imo irrational fears. Easy imo if you have a shotgun or rifle just the mental block is difficult getting over

Salt is painful and is not SN. Sn is not painful . There is only one SN.

Plus the ld50 of SN is orders of magnitude lower than salt

SN not painful…ok sure.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

SN not painful…ok sure.

Prove it . I've seen hundreds of goodby threads here . Prove those prolife scare threads were true . Any one can type anything . Sure humans never lie. I am actually from another planet in the galaxy. See how easy it is to type a lie. Pph also observed many SN suicides all peaceful

 

[M48 Patton]

Problem with dehydration (even including starvation) is if you don't commit to it long term and go through with it I've heard of negative short term and long term health consequences such as organ damage etc.

As an example I think for me it probably wouldn't take a lot to starve my body as it's already unhealthy, my body would probably shut down faster but maybe more painfully so it would be dependent upon your health to begin with, environmental factors could play a part too like heat and cold.

I know some users on here have attempted this and not succeeded either through personally withdrawing from the method or through intentional or unintentional intervention from others.

I know people who have terminal illnesses and are hospitalised can get through this method because of medication and attendance from healthcare professionals.

 

[JenX]

Prove it . I've seen hundreds of goodby threads here . Prove those prolife scare threads were true . Any one can type anything . Sure humans never lie. I am actually from another planet in the galaxy. See how easy it is to type a lie. Pph also observed many SN suicides all peaceful

I read the account/timeline of Moonymoon's passing after taking SN. It was anything but peaceful. And if you read about what's actually taking place in your cells in your body after taking the poison, it's pretty horrific. But so is losing the sodium balance in your cells & cell death by taking too much salt. I think both methods are awful. Taking really really good drugs to knock you out beforehand is the only remedy to that I think. I don't have access to any drugs legal or illegal so, only last resort.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I read the account/timeline of Moonymoon's passing after taking SN. It was anything but peaceful. And if you read about what's actually taking place in your cells in your body after taking the poison, it's pretty horrific. But so is losing the sodium balance in your cells & cell death by taking too much salt. I think both methods are awful. Taking really really good drugs to knock you out beforehand is the only remedy to that I think. I don't have access to any drugs legal or illegal so, only last resort.

I trust the peaceful pill handbook they observed many . I trust the hundreds of goodbye threads and many accounts of being brought back to life in the ER all said painless . More so Over a few false accounts . No SN works through hipoxia painless. it is not salt . Salt doesn't bind to the hemoglobin. Co and SN bind to the hemoglobin

 

[JenX]

I trust the peaceful pill handbook they observed many . I trust the hundreds of goodbye threads and many accounts of being brought back to life in the ER all said painless . More so Over a few false accounts . No SN works through hipoxia painless. it is not salt . Salt doesn't bind to the hemoglobin. Co and SN bind to the hemoglobin

"The mechanism of salt ingestion causing death is believed to be related to hypernatremia with the serum sodium levels in reported fatalities ranging from 175 to 255 mmol/L. Ingestion of as little as two tablespoons of salt has been reported to increase serum sodium levels by as much as 30 mmol/L with the potential to cause severe irreversible neurological damage [7,9]."

A Systematic Review of Fatalities Related to Acute Ingestion of Salt. A Need for Warning Labels?

There are sporadic cases of fatalities from acutely eating salt. Yet, on social media, there are “challenges to” and examples of children and some adults acutely eating salt, and recently a charity advocated eating small amounts of salt to empathize with Syrian refugees. We performed a...

www.mdpi.com

See also~ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_poisoning

Look, you can die from ingesting too much salt, or even soy sauce. I read thats a popular method in Asia. But its not fun. Neither is SN. We just happen to know more about SN at this site because it's kind of promoted here I guess you could call it…its weird.

We're going to have to agree to disagree that SN is peaceful. Hope you have a good day.

 

[DoubleUp8]

VSED is unpredictable as hell. I always say hunger strike. I have tried and failed I don't know how many times. I just went a week where I only ate twice in moments of mental weakness to temptation of delicious stuff. I think I was nearly successful because I was exposed to brutal heat and humidity as well. I'm trying again July 1 and gonna try totally dry. We'll see how it goes but I really need to die somehow. Some way. Not eating solid foods isn't all that hard. But trying not to drink anything is a different story. It's close to involuntary reaction to drink something if you're really thirsty.

 

[GreyCTB]

I survived 3 days without drinking or eating once and it was not fun at all. Depending on your environment you can probably go 2 weeks or more without any water and survive, people do this regularly it is called dry fasting. To me personally it seems much more easier and comfortable to find a method where you can go instantly or in a few minutes. Instead of having to resist the ever increasing thirst and suffer a bunch of extremely uncomfortable symptoms for weeks before finally dying

 

[Imprisoned]

I read the account/timeline of Moonymoon's passing after taking SN. It was anything but peaceful. And if you read about what's actually taking place in your cells in your body after taking the poison, it's pretty horrific. But so is losing the sodium balance in your cells & cell death by taking too much salt. I think both methods are awful. Taking really really good drugs to knock you out beforehand is the only remedy to that I think. I don't have access to any drugs legal or illegal so, only last resort.

Wouldn't the SN itself knock you out before experiencing too much pain? This is kinda concerning considering how popular SN is on here, so I hope someone more knowledgable than me can chip in, but the PPH green lights SN as a peaceful method so idk.

 

[kyhoti]

I've tried VSED a couple of times recently. I lasted a few miserable days until I just caved. Even as a diabetic, it just wasn't "effective". I have an idea that the only way I could possibly make it work for me is to handcuff myself to a tree or something, but I have a feeling that I might "wolf out" and escape. Just sayin'.

 

[MiMif]

This probably wouldn't work as a lot of foods you eat also have water so on top of not drinking you can't eat either and that's painful and I doubt many are strong enough for that. Also why suffer when there are easier ways?

 

[m1dn1ghtmyst3ry]

Definitely one of the methods I'll be choosing if I back out on my other ones (hanging or drowning). I've tested this before and didn't drink or eat for 3 days. All I did was sleep so I didn't experience any symptoms.

 

[Linda]

If you want to die by thirst, it would be best to head out into the desert, far from people, in very hot weather. By the time the heat and the dehydration start to take effect, you would be too weak to return to civilization. If you were to start early morninng, and keep walking, you probably wouldn't live to see the sunset.
Note that I do mean very hot weather (40 degrees C or more = 104 Fahrenheit or more) , not just warm.

 

[Roseblanche]

If you drank 2 to 3 tablespoons of salt dissolved in water, your body will die just as if you went without drinking water for five days. Hypernatremia. Soy sauce work too. Not a fun way to go but it seems effective.

Water drains from the brain trying to restore sodium balance and you go unconscious. But there's no information on how long that takes.

Like SN, it sounds incredibly painful. Vomiting, head pain, lethargy, diarrhea, unconsciousness, coma, death.

Its my backup plan if partial doesn't work.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1365-2796.2004.01411.x

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_poisoning

Can You Really Die From Too Much Soy Sauce? Yes, And It's Surprisingly Easy To Do

It's even used as a method of suicide in some places.

www.iflscience.com

have also seen this information and am retaining it as a last resort too
I don't have any weapons or medicine strong enough, so I have to be inventive
do you have any new information on this method since your post? Have a good evening

 

[ThisIsMe1357]

I once tried not drinking and not eating when I was around 20. I can tell you that I managed to not drink and not eat for 7 days without absolutely anything happening to me. Granted, it was in winter, but I did not become weak, I did not faint, I did not have any health problems, neither I experienced any lasting consequences from trying. I functioned completely normally.

Yes, I was thirsty and hungry, but I could manage pretty well. Rather than not being able to do it or the method not being successful, it may just take a very long time for anything to happen. Of course, everything depends on how old and healthy you are.

 

[spentspirit]

It can take weeks for you to die from VSED. This is a bad method that will mean you will suffer for a very long ting.

 

[JustA_LittlePerson]

I'm not physically active and went 5 days without drinking or eating anything and I was fine. Only in the middle of the 5th day I started getting a mild headache and then I gave up

 

[TheUncommon]

I lasted way more than three days on VSED. I took no water or food in for at least 96 hours and felt no different compared to when I started. I started to consider when I inevitably weaken, people would intervene and try to supply water while I'm unconscious, and my efforts would be in vain. That's when I quit, as it isn't worth it unless you live alone and work from home.

 

[doctordetritus]

im just guessing here, but it seems like towards the end, every blink would be dreadfully painful.

 

[Esokabat]

I know a guy who tried this. He could not resist and end up drinking some water. Unfortunately permanent damage was done. All his glands stopped functioning. He was in agony, no saliva, no sweat, extreme dry eyes. His glands suffered permanent damage. He later recovered from the depression and no longer wanted to CTB. But his life became unbearable due to the permanent gland dysfunction. He went to countless doctors, tried countless treatments. He wanted to heal and wanted to live. He couldn't find a cure and ended up CTB-ing even though he wanted to live but the physical pain and suffering was too much.
Drinking water is hardcoded. You will not be able to resist. Your brain will turn off concious choice and turn on self preservation mode. You will be drinking water as your brain will override your silly ego that thought it was more powerful than the full brain spectrum that was designed for self-preservation and it will not be a choice any longer. I think it is childish and naive to think you have that much will-power to go against the hardcoding of millions of years of brain evolution.
This is why this is not a CTB method. If you go against your brain, you will lose